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love the way you yanks sarcastically put the guy who`s been in with ednar cherry above the very man who has twice fought for the title of best p4p title in the world.

Its not lost on me....

Hatton beats every single one of those guys....if neccesary 2 at a time!!

And was twice KTFO, last time out at 140, in 2 rounds. I suppose that's of no bearing when determining where he ranks in his division though? The only fighter anywhere close to p4p that Hatton ever beat was Tsyzu, YEARS ago. Would it be as ludicrous to rank David Haye above say, Larry Holmes, should he make a return to the ring? I'd definetly pick Bradley over Hatton at this point in time, and that's without even accounting for the likehood of Hatton being impacted by the layoff and dropping so much weight. Also, I know it was a typo, but it's cracking me up how you wrote Hatton fought for the title of best p4p "title". That was his illusion exactly.

[HattonTheHammer]

love the way you yanks sarcastically put the guy who`s been in with ednar cherry above the very man who has twice fought for the title of best p4p title in the world.

Its not lost on me....

Hatton beats every single one of those guys....if neccesary 2 at a time!!

And was twice KTFO, last time out at 140, in 2 rounds. I suppose that's of no bearing when determining where he ranks in his division though? The only fighter anywhere close to p4p that Hatton ever beat was Tsyzu, YEARS ago. Would it be as ludicrous to rank David Haye above say, Larry Holmes, should he make a return to the ring? I'd definetly pick Bradley over Hatton at this point in time, and that's without even accounting for the likehood of Hatton being impacted by the layoff and dropping so much weight. Also, I know it was a typo, but it's cracking me up how you wrote Hatton fought for the title of best p4p "title". That was his illusion exactly.

lets get this right...

ricky hatton has beaten...

Kostya Tszyu
Jose Luis Castillo

ricky hatton has fought...

floyd mayweather jnr
manny pacquiao


Timothy Bradley has beaten........


....................
...................


timothy bradley has fought......

.........................
........................

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love the way you yanks sarcastically put the guy who`s been in with ednar cherry above the very man who has twice fought for the title of best p4p title in the world.

Its not lost on me....

Hatton beats every single one of those guys....if neccesary 2 at a time!!

And was twice KTFO, last time out at 140, in 2 rounds. I suppose that's of no bearing when determining where he ranks in his division though? The only fighter anywhere close to p4p that Hatton ever beat was Tsyzu, YEARS ago. Would it be as ludicrous to rank David Haye above say, Larry Holmes, should he make a return to the ring? I'd definetly pick Bradley over Hatton at this point in time, and that's without even accounting for the likehood of Hatton being impacted by the layoff and dropping so much weight. Also, I know it was a typo, but it's cracking me up how you wrote Hatton fought for the title of best p4p "title". That was his illusion exactly.

lets get this right...

ricky hatton has beaten...

Kostya Tszyu
Jose Luis Castillo

ricky hatton has fought...

floyd mayweather jnr
manny pacquiao


Timothy Bradley has beaten........


....................
...................


timothy bradley has fought......

.........................
........................

Your kind of cementing my arguement here bud. You point to Hatton's biggest wins, and fail to factor in the most recent being 3 years ago? Are you taking into account his two biggest fights both being losses, occuring AFTER his biggest wins?
What the hell does his past glory have to do with where he should be ranked currently? Of course his resume trumps Bradleys, and he WAS a better fighter, to say they are currently headed in opposite directions is a bit of an understatement though.
In the last 2 years Hatton rebounded after the Floyd loss by looking extremely shaky at home at being in big trouble against Juan Lazcano, then he bounced back with a good win against a perfect stylistic matchup for him in Powderpuff, then was completely annhialated in 2 rounds against Pacman, and has since balooned up as much as he ever has, and contemplated retirement several times. We don't even know if he's ever going to fight again as it stands.. Bradley on the other hand is improving vastly and looked sensational against a very good fighter who proved his worth in Peterson. I think Bradley has the dynamics to beat Hatton clearly at present, and to imply that it's somehow Nationalistic for other's to share that view is fairly sad imo.

[Pugilistic]

love the way you yanks sarcastically put the guy who`s been in with ednar cherry above the very man who has twice fought for the title of best p4p title in the world.

Its not lost on me....

Hatton beats every single one of those guys....if neccesary 2 at a time!!

And was twice KTFO, last time out at 140, in 2 rounds. I suppose that's of no bearing when determining where he ranks in his division though? The only fighter anywhere close to p4p that Hatton ever beat was Tsyzu, YEARS ago. Would it be as ludicrous to rank David Haye above say, Larry Holmes, should he make a return to the ring? I'd definetly pick Bradley over Hatton at this point in time, and that's without even accounting for the likehood of Hatton being impacted by the layoff and dropping so much weight. Also, I know it was a typo, but it's cracking me up how you wrote Hatton fought for the title of best p4p "title". That was his illusion exactly.

lets get this right...

ricky hatton has beaten...

Kostya Tszyu
Jose Luis Castillo

ricky hatton has fought...

floyd mayweather jnr
manny pacquiao


Timothy Bradley has beaten........


....................
...................


timothy bradley has fought......

.........................
........................

I can't believe your regarding Hattons win over Castillo as a big one.

Everyone knows that Castillo was shot against Hatton.

The best wins on Hattons resumes are Tszyu (past his prime), Collazo, Malignaggi and i suppose Urango is a decent win also.

So out of 47 fights, Hatton only has four names worth mentioning on his resume.

Bradley has had 26 fights and holds wins over Junior Witter ( somone Hatton ducked), Kendall Holt and Lamont Peterson. Thats a solid resume considering he is only 26.

[HattonTheHammer]

And was twice KTFO, last time out at 140, in 2 rounds. I suppose that's of no bearing when determining where he ranks in his division though? The only fighter anywhere close to p4p that Hatton ever beat was Tsyzu, YEARS ago. Would it be as ludicrous to rank David Haye above say, Larry Holmes, should he make a return to the ring? I'd definetly pick Bradley over Hatton at this point in time, and that's without even accounting for the likehood of Hatton being impacted by the layoff and dropping so much weight. Also, I know it was a typo, but it's cracking me up how you wrote Hatton fought for the title of best p4p "title". That was his illusion exactly.

lets get this right...

ricky hatton has beaten...

Kostya Tszyu
Jose Luis Castillo

ricky hatton has fought...

floyd mayweather jnr
manny pacquiao


Timothy Bradley has beaten........


....................
...................


timothy bradley has fought......

.........................
........................

I can't believe your regarding Hattons win over Castillo as a big one.

Everyone knows that Castillo was shot against Hatton.

The best wins on Hattons resumes are Tszyu (past his prime), Collazo, Malignaggi and i suppose Urango is a decent win also.

So out of 47 fights, Hatton only has four names worth mentioning on his resume.

Bradley has had 26 fights and holds wins over Junior Witter ( somone Hatton ducked), Kendall Holt and Lamont Peterson. Thats a solid resume considering he is only 26.

let me guess this right

Castillo fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Tszyu fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Hatton ducked witter...was offered millions to fight in the US, offered hundreds of thousands to fight witter in the UK
kendall holt and lamont peterson are far better fighters than what hattons ever been in with.........and beat


Jesus christ, shall we just stick ricky in with zelenoff and have done with it while were at it??

[eagle]

lets get this right...

ricky hatton has beaten...

Kostya Tszyu
Jose Luis Castillo

ricky hatton has fought...

floyd mayweather jnr
manny pacquiao


Timothy Bradley has beaten........


....................
...................


timothy bradley has fought......

.........................
........................

I can't believe your regarding Hattons win over Castillo as a big one.

Everyone knows that Castillo was shot against Hatton.

The best wins on Hattons resumes are Tszyu (past his prime), Collazo, Malignaggi and i suppose Urango is a decent win also.

So out of 47 fights, Hatton only has four names worth mentioning on his resume.

Bradley has had 26 fights and holds wins over Junior Witter ( somone Hatton ducked), Kendall Holt and Lamont Peterson. Thats a solid resume considering he is only 26.

let me guess this right

Castillo fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Tszyu fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Hatton ducked witter...was offered millions to fight in the US, offered hundreds of thousands to fight witter in the UK
kendall holt and lamont peterson are far better fighters than what hattons ever been in with.........and beat


Jesus christ, shall we just stick ricky in with zelenoff and have done with it while were at it??

The point is we are talking about now. What has Hatton done in the last 3 years to suggest he is still the best 140 pounder in the world? Im convinced Bradley would do better against Pac and PBF than Ricky did (couldnt do much worse). Bradleys style would have given Tszyu problems as well, and thats coming from a Kostya fan.

[ono]

I think it's stacked but is without any real superstar. Like there are a lot of fighters who have a reputation that is bigger than their ability. I look at it and find it hard to see where the next Tszyu, Cotto or Mayweather is coming from.

It's solid don't get me wrong, but Maidana, Holt, Ortiz, Hopkins and Urango are all fighters who have become 'names' without ever really doing anything. I'm not even obver keen on Juan Diaz or Paulie to be honest.

Khan, Peterson and Alexander still have time on their side, and Bradley looked very good over the last year. I think it's an exciting division because most fighters are of relatively similar ability, but i still don't think 140 has found it's feet after been so good around 4 years ago.

Maybe we were spoilt by having Corrales, Mayweather, Gatti, Tszyu, Hatton and Cotto

[skel1983]

lets get this right...

ricky hatton has beaten...

Kostya Tszyu
Jose Luis Castillo

ricky hatton has fought...

floyd mayweather jnr
manny pacquiao


Timothy Bradley has beaten........


....................
...................


timothy bradley has fought......

.........................
........................

I can't believe your regarding Hattons win over Castillo as a big one.

Everyone knows that Castillo was shot against Hatton.

The best wins on Hattons resumes are Tszyu (past his prime), Collazo, Malignaggi and i suppose Urango is a decent win also.

So out of 47 fights, Hatton only has four names worth mentioning on his resume.

Bradley has had 26 fights and holds wins over Junior Witter ( somone Hatton ducked), Kendall Holt and Lamont Peterson. Thats a solid resume considering he is only 26.

let me guess this right

Castillo fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Tszyu fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Hatton ducked witter...was offered millions to fight in the US, offered hundreds of thousands to fight witter in the UK
kendall holt and lamont peterson are far better fighters than what hattons ever been in with.........and beat


Jesus christ, shall we just stick ricky in with zelenoff and have done with it while were at it??

Mate you are seriosuly deluded at times:

First off did you miss the Castillo v Ngoudjo fight? Castillos first fight at 140 and he looked awful he lost that fight on my scorecard then two fights after the Hatton fight he lost to fucking Sebastian Lujan ffs and since then hasnt beat anyone close to world class id actully say his level of opponent are just a notch up form fighting the likes of Kid Thunder, Castillo win was against a shot version of the great fighter.

Now Hatton went to America so basically your saying Hatton didnt duck Witter he went to America? Well Hatton v Witter has been on the cards since 2000, and for some reason Hatton thought it would be better to fight the likes of Steven Smith and Ray Olivera .

Hatton should of fought Witter rite after he beat Jason Rowland or anytime after that up until he fought Eamon Mcgee but he didnt I wonder why?? Warren did not fancy the job one bit and I can see why, so the America excuse is a load of rubbish mate.

[killersheep]

lets get this right...

ricky hatton has beaten...

Kostya Tszyu
Jose Luis Castillo

ricky hatton has fought...

floyd mayweather jnr
manny pacquiao


Timothy Bradley has beaten........


....................
...................


timothy bradley has fought......

.........................
........................

I can't believe your regarding Hattons win over Castillo as a big one.

Everyone knows that Castillo was shot against Hatton.

The best wins on Hattons resumes are Tszyu (past his prime), Collazo, Malignaggi and i suppose Urango is a decent win also.

So out of 47 fights, Hatton only has four names worth mentioning on his resume.

Bradley has had 26 fights and holds wins over Junior Witter ( somone Hatton ducked), Kendall Holt and Lamont Peterson. Thats a solid resume considering he is only 26.

let me guess this right

Castillo fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Tszyu fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Hatton ducked witter...was offered millions to fight in the US, offered hundreds of thousands to fight witter in the UK
kendall holt and lamont peterson are far better fighters than what hattons ever been in with.........and beat


Jesus christ, shall we just stick ricky in with zelenoff and have done with it while were at it??

Wow, well since we're talking about you addiction to Hatton instead of the thread topic...................

Castillo was known to be in serious decline prior to the Hatton fight when he got a gift against Ngoudjo.

The Tszyu fight will always be a source of controversy, I give Hatton credit for making Tszyu quit, but come on that was four and a half years ago.

Let's compare them for the last 2 years shall we?

2008

Hatton
W corner retirement - over Malignaggi
W UD - over Lazcano

Bradley
W SD - Witter
W UD Cherry

2009
Hatton
L KO - Pacquiao

Bradley
W UD - Holt
NC - Campbell (ahead on the cards at time of stoppage)
W UD - Peterson

So in 2008 Hatton DID have a better resume than Bradley, but when you add in 2009 Bradley has had more success than a mile. As for the other things you talked about it's ancient history man, no way a fight from more than 24 months ago effects today's rankings.

[bzkfn]

I can't believe your regarding Hattons win over Castillo as a big one.

Everyone knows that Castillo was shot against Hatton.

The best wins on Hattons resumes are Tszyu (past his prime), Collazo, Malignaggi and i suppose Urango is a decent win also.

So out of 47 fights, Hatton only has four names worth mentioning on his resume.

Bradley has had 26 fights and holds wins over Junior Witter ( somone Hatton ducked), Kendall Holt and Lamont Peterson. Thats a solid resume considering he is only 26.

let me guess this right

Castillo fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Tszyu fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Hatton ducked witter...was offered millions to fight in the US, offered hundreds of thousands to fight witter in the UK
kendall holt and lamont peterson are far better fighters than what hattons ever been in with.........and beat


Jesus christ, shall we just stick ricky in with zelenoff and have done with it while were at it??

Wow, well since we're talking about you addiction to Hatton instead of the thread topic...................

Castillo was known to be in serious decline prior to the Hatton fight when he got a gift against Ngoudjo.

The Tszyu fight will always be a source of controversy, I give Hatton credit for making Tszyu quit, but come on that was four and a half years ago.

Let's compare them for the last 2 years shall we?

2008

Hatton
W corner retirement - over Malignaggi
W UD - over Lazcano

Bradley
W SD - Witter
W UD Cherry

2009
Hatton
L KO - Pacquiao

Bradley
W UD - Holt
NC - Campbell (ahead on the cards at time of stoppage)
W UD - Peterson

So in 2008 Hatton DID have a better resume than Bradley, but when you add in 2009 Bradley has had more success than a mile. As for the other things you talked about it's ancient history man, no way a fight from more than 24 months ago effects today's rankings.

I'm a big Hatton fan, but I can't agree with Hammer. Hatton hasn't got it anymore. His Castillo win is not as good as his Malignaggi win in my opinion. Bradley would beat Hatton now, he looks a polished fighter.

However, I have to take issue with the praise for Junior Witter. Witter hasn't done shit in his career, his biggest fucking win is Vivian Harris. Bradley has much more impressive wins on his resume.

[killersheep]

let me guess this right

Castillo fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Tszyu fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Hatton ducked witter...was offered millions to fight in the US, offered hundreds of thousands to fight witter in the UK
kendall holt and lamont peterson are far better fighters than what hattons ever been in with.........and beat


Jesus christ, shall we just stick ricky in with zelenoff and have done with it while were at it??

Wow, well since we're talking about you addiction to Hatton instead of the thread topic...................

Castillo was known to be in serious decline prior to the Hatton fight when he got a gift against Ngoudjo.

The Tszyu fight will always be a source of controversy, I give Hatton credit for making Tszyu quit, but come on that was four and a half years ago.

Let's compare them for the last 2 years shall we?

2008

Hatton
W corner retirement - over Malignaggi
W UD - over Lazcano

Bradley
W SD - Witter
W UD Cherry

2009
Hatton
L KO - Pacquiao

Bradley
W UD - Holt
NC - Campbell (ahead on the cards at time of stoppage)
W UD - Peterson

So in 2008 Hatton DID have a better resume than Bradley, but when you add in 2009 Bradley has had more success than a mile. As for the other things you talked about it's ancient history man, no way a fight from more than 24 months ago effects today's rankings.

I'm a big Hatton fan, but I can't agree with Hammer. Hatton hasn't got it anymore. His Castillo win is not as good as his Malignaggi win in my opinion. Bradley would beat Hatton now, he looks a polished fighter.

However, I have to take issue with the praise for Junior Witter. Witter hasn't done shit in his career, his biggest fucking win is Vivian Harris. Bradley has much more impressive wins on his resume.

I agree his win over Malignaggi was much more meaningful than the Castillo win. He was able to put Paulie outside of his comfort zone and keep him there. Witter for all his flaws had a belt, Bradley went into his backyard and took it from him.

[HattonTheHammer]

I can't believe your regarding Hattons win over Castillo as a big one.

Everyone knows that Castillo was shot against Hatton.

The best wins on Hattons resumes are Tszyu (past his prime), Collazo, Malignaggi and i suppose Urango is a decent win also.

So out of 47 fights, Hatton only has four names worth mentioning on his resume.

Bradley has had 26 fights and holds wins over Junior Witter ( somone Hatton ducked), Kendall Holt and Lamont Peterson. Thats a solid resume considering he is only 26.

let me guess this right

Castillo fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Tszyu fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Hatton ducked witter...was offered millions to fight in the US, offered hundreds of thousands to fight witter in the UK
kendall holt and lamont peterson are far better fighters than what hattons ever been in with.........and beat


Jesus christ, shall we just stick ricky in with zelenoff and have done with it while were at it??

Wow, well since we're talking about you addiction to Hatton instead of the thread topic...................

Castillo was known to be in serious decline prior to the Hatton fight when he got a gift against Ngoudjo.

The Tszyu fight will always be a source of controversy, I give Hatton credit for making Tszyu quit, but come on that was four and a half years ago.

Let's compare them for the last 2 years shall we?

2008

Hatton
W corner retirement - over Malignaggi
W UD - over Lazcano

Bradley
W SD - Witter
W UD Cherry

2009
Hatton
L KO - Pacquiao

Bradley
W UD - Holt
NC - Campbell (ahead on the cards at time of stoppage)
W UD - Peterson

So in 2008 Hatton DID have a better resume than Bradley, but when you add in 2009 Bradley has had more success than a mile. As for the other things you talked about it's ancient history man, no way a fight from more than 24 months ago effects today's rankings.

hand on heart then killer...

If we stuck a 26 year old ricky hatton in with kendall, nate and peterson what would rickys year read so far....


JMMs year currently read 1-1...khans reads 3-0


by your logic khan beats marquez.....right??

[killersheep]

let me guess this right

Castillo fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Tszyu fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Hatton ducked witter...was offered millions to fight in the US, offered hundreds of thousands to fight witter in the UK
kendall holt and lamont peterson are far better fighters than what hattons ever been in with.........and beat


Jesus christ, shall we just stick ricky in with zelenoff and have done with it while were at it??

Wow, well since we're talking about you addiction to Hatton instead of the thread topic...................

Castillo was known to be in serious decline prior to the Hatton fight when he got a gift against Ngoudjo.

The Tszyu fight will always be a source of controversy, I give Hatton credit for making Tszyu quit, but come on that was four and a half years ago.

Let's compare them for the last 2 years shall we?

2008

Hatton
W corner retirement - over Malignaggi
W UD - over Lazcano

Bradley
W SD - Witter
W UD Cherry

2009
Hatton
L KO - Pacquiao

Bradley
W UD - Holt
NC - Campbell (ahead on the cards at time of stoppage)
W UD - Peterson

So in 2008 Hatton DID have a better resume than Bradley, but when you add in 2009 Bradley has had more success than a mile. As for the other things you talked about it's ancient history man, no way a fight from more than 24 months ago effects today's rankings.

hand on heart then killer...

If we stuck a 26 year old ricky hatton in with kendall, nate and peterson what would rickys year read so far....


JMMs year currently read 1-1...khans reads 3-0


by your logic khan beats marquez.....right??

We are not dealing in IF's we are looking at facts, Hatton has zero wins this year.

As to your distraction point about JMM vs. Khan results at this time I would rate Khan much higher than JMM at 140 reason being JMM has never fought at 140. If want to further extrapolate this into more distraction feel free.

Let's take the names out

Fighter A - is 0-1 this year
Fighter B - is 2-0 (with 1 NC) this year who ranks higher and why, without using names answer this............

[p4pking]

let me guess this right

Castillo fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Tszyu fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Hatton ducked witter...was offered millions to fight in the US, offered hundreds of thousands to fight witter in the UK
kendall holt and lamont peterson are far better fighters than what hattons ever been in with.........and beat


Jesus christ, shall we just stick ricky in with zelenoff and have done with it while were at it??

Wow, well since we're talking about you addiction to Hatton instead of the thread topic...................

Castillo was known to be in serious decline prior to the Hatton fight when he got a gift against Ngoudjo.

The Tszyu fight will always be a source of controversy, I give Hatton credit for making Tszyu quit, but come on that was four and a half years ago.

Let's compare them for the last 2 years shall we?

2008

Hatton
W corner retirement - over Malignaggi
W UD - over Lazcano

Bradley
W SD - Witter
W UD Cherry

2009
Hatton
L KO - Pacquiao

Bradley
W UD - Holt
NC - Campbell (ahead on the cards at time of stoppage)
W UD - Peterson

So in 2008 Hatton DID have a better resume than Bradley, but when you add in 2009 Bradley has had more success than a mile. As for the other things you talked about it's ancient history man, no way a fight from more than 24 months ago effects today's rankings.

hand on heart then killer...

If we stuck a 26 year old ricky hatton in with kendall, nate and peterson what would rickys year read so far....


JMMs year currently read 1-1...khans reads 3-0


by your logic khan beats marquez.....right??

I don't think you should be allowed to even type 'logic' until someone slaps you. Hatton IS NOT 26 YEARS OLD. That's all anybody in this thread is attesting to, he isn't CURRENTLY the top ranked guy out there(and most likely not the best) at 140. Noone is saying he wouldn't have beaten Bradley in his day, but that was several years ago. You are evidently in denial of this.

[ElTerribleMorales]

no wonder Hammer is such a Hatton fan....

he's just as fucking dumb lol there is no such thing as the goddam "p4p title" if we were goin by that DLH is leaps and bounds ahead of Hatton seeing how he's gone up against the guy considered p4p #1 on 3 separate occasions Hopkins, Mayweather, Pacquiao lol and he lost all 3 the same, doesn't make him a p4p quality fighter anymore today

If i were you id get on the phone to ring magazine, the WBC,WBA,WBO and pretty much everybody who is associated with boxing at this present time

p4p lists are built on opinion, it's not an actual sanctioning body or title dipshit lol hence the reasoning no one can fight for a "p4p title", it's as ludicrous as the WBC's "Diamond Belt"

lets get this right...

ricky hatton has beaten...

Kostya Tszyu
Jose Luis Castillo

ricky hatton has fought...

floyd mayweather jnr
manny pacquiao


Timothy Bradley has beaten........


....................
...................


timothy bradley has fought......

.........................
........................

I can't believe your regarding Hattons win over Castillo as a big one.

Everyone knows that Castillo was shot against Hatton.

The best wins on Hattons resumes are Tszyu (past his prime), Collazo, Malignaggi and i suppose Urango is a decent win also.

So out of 47 fights, Hatton only has four names worth mentioning on his resume.

Bradley has had 26 fights and holds wins over Junior Witter ( somone Hatton ducked), Kendall Holt and Lamont Peterson. Thats a solid resume considering he is only 26.

let me guess this right

Castillo fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Tszyu fought hatton the night he suddenly became past his prime
Hatton ducked witter...was offered millions to fight in the US, offered hundreds of thousands to fight witter in the UK
kendall holt and lamont peterson are far better fighters than what hattons ever been in with.........and beat


Jesus christ, shall we just stick ricky in with zelenoff and have done with it while were at it??

funny how after Floyd stomped that ass Ricky was all of a sudden too small for welter, and even funnier how when Pacquiao put him into a coma after 2 rounds Ricky's "past caught up to him"

Castillo already showed signs of decline when he barely beat Ngoudjo

Herman Ngoudjo is a decent fighter NOW, when Castillo got past him he wasn't anywhere close to what he is now, and lacked experience big time, since then he lost to Hatton and Lujan, are you seriously trying to imply that Sebastian Lujan is a world beater cause he has a win over Castillo?

Hatton beat a game Tszyu....in a fight where the ref let him do whatever the fuck he pleased and not even get a warning

Hatton could have easily made way more money fighting Witter in England than fighting the likes of Malignaggi in Vegas

and anyone who doesn't think that Holt and Peterson are more well rounded and talented fighters than Castillo (at the point he fought Hatton) and Urango (who was beaten even worse by Berto) is pretty much blind