Hello fellas, I'm in for the vacation, what's this rumor I hear about 2012.

[Andre]

Andre and Pacfan are talking very deeply fellas. Do not enter this board unless you have an IQ above 100.

Funny you should say that, I believe we all have the same IQ potential; its just that taught things create walls,beliefs and judgments of others are even worse; so some cant use their own as well as some others in some areas.

Some use their genius level for only the things they love or feel comfortable with and so they cant see up other roads as easily as others who choose to look there can.


In that light, I'll share this..

Rather than being seduced by the 'peace' potentially derived from
avoiding the pain of sorrow, Jeshua teaches us that true healing
occurs only when we do step fully into the feeling.

Protecting oneself merely perpetuates our suffering encouraging the
Law of Attraction to once again re-visit conspiring again to open us
to the fullness of feeling. Sadness, sorrow, grief, rejection and
unworthiness are not resolved by hiding from but rather entering into.

Going down and into the feeling of these dynamics are that 'eye of
the needle' spoken about that we must pass through to find true peace
and wholeness at our soul level. Small wonder then that this
represents our most perceived fearful experience and therefore our
greatest challenge.

Is this JEWEL 'mistake' then yet another perfect 'setup'? providing
me with the first of my New Year resolutions? and dare I invoke this?

"In every moment let me feel my pain to my core and let me know my
utter vulnerability and my humility" thereby releasing me from the
prison I have created in my mind.

I don't know, I don't think people are born "stupid" necessarily but some people have natural aptitudes for some things and others don't and vice versa. I tested off the charts ( ok I tested very highly) for reading comprehension and things like that but I'm a moron when it comes to math. Of course if I had smoked less pot and worked harder I would have done much better in math courses and basically figured it out but some people just understood it naturally much quicker than I did.

Thats just learnt stuff, Im slow too and educated to only 9th year, but I test at close to 140 when the tests are general.

Andrew is teetering on genius level at being Kid Thunder, noone else can achieve that ,only he can.

Some people are actually geniuses at failing they learn lessons others cant.

As a parent if you tell your kids they can achieve anything if they choose to, i think that helps them direct their brain .

[pacfan]

I've also noticed something. I've seen this Celente prediction of socio-economic chaos long before this Mayan calendar thing and the Celente prediction had nothing to to with the Mayan thing, at least I didn't notice it. But they're both pointing to the year 2012. Was is just a coincidence? Did Celente intentionally time it with the end of the Mayan calendar? If it was unintentional, then... hmmm... will it, or will it not ...I wonder...

...before I scare the heck out of some timid souls here, just remember this: doomsayers have come and gone - and they came by the thousands - but the doom never came...

Gerald Celente is a man I always take the time to listen to. He is usually quite bleak, but he is realistic and looks at situations for what they are. There is a strong possibility of fireworks being set off in the next year or two. America is breaking right now and I can see Wall Street imploding again before too long, none of the economic mistakes have been rectified, so it's just a case of waiting until the bubble bursts. It's a shame the Americans have been so reckless with their military budgets and bail outs and have not tried to provide for their middle classes in over 30 years. Those people are the heart of any society and unfortunately they have been gutted like a fish. The UK is a sorry mess too, financially and culturally broken.

And the new order? It seems to be Asia with China leading the march. Like you said, it really is a case of the West having created a monster. It's all been about short term gains with no thought given to the long term consequences. Unfortunately, the long term consequences are just around the corner. "Hello no freedom of speech". "Hello no human rights". "Hello no freedom to access information". "Hello 1984". America has been pretty shitty for nigh on 40 years with decreasing standards of living, but at least you can say what you want when you want. Without even that most basic of privaleges, then a society has ceased to function. All the economic growth in the world cannot compensate for the right to say what you want.

Ya, the whole Celente thing is not entirely impossible because they're not really talking of the end of, or more accurately, the chaos in, the physical word but rather in the 'socio-economic' sphere. No matter how nice the economists try to picture the situation now, the fact remains that the world is still sitting on huge financial 'landmines' that they are still trying to defuse one by one. As long as there are still lots of mines left out there, which is the case now, the world economy is sitting on a very, very shakey grounds and naturally, anything can happen in this situation. The Celente's grim prognosis is not entirely absurd, though I still doubt it. But, I hate to admit it, it is not impossible...

Andre and Pacfan are talking very deeply fellas. Do not enter this board unless you have an IQ above 100.

Funny you should say that, I believe we all have the same IQ potential; its just that taught things create walls,beliefs and judgments of others are even worse; so some cant use their own as well as some others in some areas.

Some use their genius level for only the things they love or feel comfortable with and so they cant see up other roads as easily as others who choose to look there can.


In that light, I'll share this..

Rather than being seduced by the 'peace' potentially derived from
avoiding the pain of sorrow, Jeshua teaches us that true healing
occurs only when we do step fully into the feeling.

Protecting oneself merely perpetuates our suffering encouraging the
Law of Attraction to once again re-visit conspiring again to open us
to the fullness of feeling. Sadness, sorrow, grief, rejection and
unworthiness are not resolved by hiding from but rather entering into.

Going down and into the feeling of these dynamics are that 'eye of
the needle' spoken about that we must pass through to find true peace
and wholeness at our soul level. Small wonder then that this
represents our most perceived fearful experience and therefore our
greatest challenge.

Is this JEWEL 'mistake' then yet another perfect 'setup'? providing
me with the first of my New Year resolutions? and dare I invoke this?

"In every moment let me feel my pain to my core and let me know my
utter vulnerability and my humility" thereby releasing me from the
prison I have created in my mind.

I don't know, I don't think people are born "stupid" necessarily but some people have natural aptitudes for some things and others don't and vice versa. I tested off the charts ( ok I tested very highly) for reading comprehension and things like that but I'm a moron when it comes to math. Of course if I had smoked less pot and worked harder I would have done much better in math courses and basically figured it out but some people just understood it naturally much quicker than I did.

If you guys believe in karma, there's a belief that the 'lesser' guys now were the more bad guys in the past lives. The more extreme belief is that the lowest creatures or animals were the baddest guys in their past lives. No, I don't buy that.

Talking of reincarnation, this is one of my crazy thoughts that I've been keeping to myself for a long time:

Most of you guys probably have heard about the so-called 'near death' or 'out-of-the-body' experiences where some guy's soul detaches from his body and, among other things, he is drawn into a dark tunnel with bright lights at the end. I was wondering if that tunnel might have been a womb of a mother about to give birth. I mean is it possible that once a person dies and his soul leaves the body, the soul looks for the nearest baby about to come out into the world. If that is the case, where does it leave us? Does that mean our soul is nothing but a pathetic parasite waiting to swoop down into the body of a hapless child about to be born?
Ok, before you say anything, I was just joking.

If the world ends in 2012 so be it. Not really something to spend a lot of time worrying about really.

Fucking Mayans.

I was thinking that way too, no problem with me as long as everyone else goes with me. I bet it's a lonely world there at the netherworld.

[Master]

I do not believe in reincarnation, that the world will end 2012. If Nostradamus can get it wrong anyone can.

[Andre]

I do not believe in reincarnation, that the world will end 2012. If Nostradamus can get it wrong anyone can.

I do believe in reincarnation


I dont belive the world will end in 2012


Spounge Bobs spirit will rise again


I will crawl out of the seas,my spirit will grow slowly over many millennium as i move from one species to the next and I will crawl out of the oceans stand and join a black happy tribe who dance continually and only use their sharkteeth for smiling the resemblance is uncanny.

[pacfan]

Alright, obviously the Mayans never said anything about world ending in 2012. At the worst, the cut-off year on their calendar might just mean that one time cycle or 'era' will pass and a 'new' one coming, perhaps with some big changes. Maybe not but how do we explain the coincidence between the time of the end of the Mayan calendar with the prediction target year of a reputable (he seems so, check it out below) socio-economic forecaster Gerald Celente who's the CEO of an equally reputable institution Trend Research Institute? It's hard to ignore his credentials:


The George Washington blog has compiled a list of quotes attesting to Celente’s accuracy as a trend forecaster.

“When CNN wants to know about the Top Trends, we ask Gerald Celente.”

— CNN Headline News

“A network of 25 experts whose range of specialties would rival many university faculties.”

— The Economist

“Gerald Celente has a knack for getting the zeitgeist right.”

— USA Today

“There’s not a better trend forecaster than Gerald Celente. The man knows what he’s talking about.”

- CNBC

“Those who take their predictions seriously … consider the Trends Research Institute.”

— The Wall Street Journal

“Gerald Celente is always ahead of the curve on trends and uncannily on the mark … he’s one of the most accurate forecasters around.”

— The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

“Mr. Celente tracks the world’s social, economic and business trends for corporate clients.”

— The New York Times

“Mr. Celente is a very intelligent guy. We are able to learn about trends from an authority.”

— 48 Hours, CBS News

“Gerald Celente has a solid track record. He has predicted everything from the 1987 stock market crash and the demise of the Soviet Union to green marketing and corporate downsizing.”

— The Detroit News

“Gerald Celente forecast the 1987 stock market crash, ‘green marketing,’ and the boom in gourmet coffees.”

— Chicago Tribune

“The Trends Research Institute is the Standard and Poors of Popular Culture.”

— The Los Angeles Times

“If Nostradamus were alive today, he’d have a hard time keeping up with Gerald Celente.”

— New York Post

So there you have it – hardly a nutjob conspiracy theorist blowhard now is he? The price of not heeding his warnings will be far greater than the cost of preparing for the future now. Storable food and gold are two good places to make a start.

So there you go guys. Personally, I'm not convinced, at least not yet, but if you see some serious socio-economic problems starting to brew in the near future, beware, that could be the sign. Pack up your bags and be ready to hitch a ride to a nearby mountainside hideaway or take 2 aspirins and call me toll-free at 0800-900-777 for free consultation. Relax, babes, I'm just half serious.

Okay, my vacation time is almost up but I'll probably be back again tomorrow for some parting shots. In the meantime, adios amigos.

[pacfan]

Hope you all had a wonderful holidays. My vacation time is almost up so time for my parting shot.I'd say I'm more thrilled than anything else anticipating the big iffy come 2012. I wonder what kind of surprises are in store for that year, if any at all. Will it be the end? heck no. Or will there be anything unusual? I really have no inkling so far of anything unusual to come. But if there's any sort of 'chaos' as forecasted by Celente, no doubt it's because of human excesses, a warning perhaps. Then, it will be time for atonement for mankind, and there must be a drastic change. Man has been destroying the environment for economic greed for so many years. And maybe, it's payback time. If the 'chaos' is meant to jolt us to our sense and to make necessary changes, so be it. I have no problem with that. I think it's something we have to face anyway, sooner or later, and the sooner, the better, I guess. So I say let's get on with it. With that, I'll end my random rambling here for now... Hope the brand new year will be a better one for you all out there, again, lovers and non-lovers alike (I don't like to use the word hater)...

Alright, everyone has been 'clicked.' Now the other 200 or so shy guys who sneaked in, if you can just identify yourselves, I'd be more than willing to give you the lollipop as well...
...gotta go now, adieu and mabuhay.

[Nameless]

Every 2-3 years they announce the end of the world. To me, it is getting like a routine, they announce it, they retwitch their calendar and we're good for another round. Same old same old. According to 220 Dates for the End of the world!!! Date Setters!, I did survive 89 end of the world till this day. Not bad at all, as a friend of mine said, I think I'll put that in my resume.

[Scrap]

Its not going to get any better, I for the 1st time in my life am dreading the future for people. Brokers I know in the City are very worried, were coming into a bad Time, look around the signs are there, too many of them

[Andre]

Its not going to get any better, I for the 1st time in my life am dreading the future for people. Brokers I know in the City are very worried, were coming into a bad Time, look around the signs are there, too many of them

Compassion testing ground coming up and a divide.

[Master]

Its not going to get any better, I for the 1st time in my life am dreading the future for people. Brokers I know in the City are very worried, were coming into a bad Time, look around the signs are there, too many of them

Who care about the brokers in the city, they are causing the world to end with the recession.

[Scrap]

Couldnt give 2 F**ks about Brokers its them thats caused most of it , and the War Machine.

[Chris Nagel]

How on earth are brokers responsible? It's the politicians who are spending money like it's the end of world.

[El Kabong]

Every 2-3 years they announce the end of the world. To me, it is getting like a routine, they announce it, they retwitch their calendar and we're good for another round. Same old same old. According to 220 Dates for the End of the world!!! Date Setters!, I did survive 89 end of the world till this day. Not bad at all, as a friend of mine said, I think I'll put that in my resume.

.....so now can you understand where I'm coming from with all these false pandemics

Hey maybe the freaking Mayans who lived from 2000 BC to 250 AD thought "Hey we just made this big ass Calendar and it'll last us until 2012 and maybe by then we'll need to make a new one" When I get calendars these days they usually end December 31st of the very year I get them.....OH MY GOD THE WORLD IS GOING TO END THIS DECEMBER 31ST BECAUSE MY CALENDAR RUNS OUT AAAAAAAAAHHHHH.

You can't trust a God damn thing these days

[Gandalf]

Its not going to get any better, I for the 1st time in my life am dreading the future for people. Brokers I know in the City are very worried, were coming into a bad Time, look around the signs are there, too many of them

Totally agree, Scrap.

I fear for the future, the warning signs are all around us and it would take some serious self delusion to not notice it. Economically, the UK and the US are down the drain and there doesn't seem to be all that much on the horizon despite what the television news is trying to tell us. Recovery? Not as far as I can see and once the stimulus runs its course, things will begin to sink. And then more stimulus? You can't spend your way out of a depression. I'm just waiting for the next bomb to fall.

We need revolution and a chance to start all over again, but in the meantime the environment continues to be assaulted on a daily basis. These are grim times.

[Scrap]

Chris, its not the Poloticians that are running the show.