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    Default Re: Khan leaves Warren, Vacates Title, Malignaggi next ....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    I would still rate a shot Hatton well above Prescott who seemed to struggle with Mitchells combo's
    I see what you're getting at and with every fight it will be a worry but Hatton hasn't knocked anyone out with a headshot for years.

    For the record i don't actually think Hatton is shot. How could he be? He went from dominating Paulie to getting sparked by Pacquiao. It happens. And for hatton it happens everytime he fights somebody who's fast and throws skillfull combinations.

    That's why i give him next to no chance.
    Hatton hasn't hit a china-chin like Khan's in years. Possibly never a chin so fragile.

    I don't see how anyone could think Hatton would not spark Khan if he caught him? There's really no doubt at all.
    I'm not so sure. Hatton's not the sort of fighter to throw hooks to the head...well accurately at least and every time Khan has been in trouble it's been a hook that's caught him on the temple. Hatton will mainly throw straight right hands that fly over the target and Khan will counter him for fun.

    I agree Khan's punch resistance is awful although at 135 that was more than likely because his bodyfat was at 1.5%

    Seriously though, any fighter has a punchers chances against Khan, but i still give Hatton next to no chance.

    I see a methodical beatdown that falls somewhere in between what Floyd and Pacquiao did to Hatton.

    Be a shame for him to go out like that. I just don't see him ever being able to deal with fast combinations.
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    Default Re: Khan leaves Warren, Vacates Title, Malignaggi next ....

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
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    I see what you're getting at and with every fight it will be a worry but Hatton hasn't knocked anyone out with a headshot for years.

    For the record i don't actually think Hatton is shot. How could he be? He went from dominating Paulie to getting sparked by Pacquiao. It happens. And for hatton it happens everytime he fights somebody who's fast and throws skillfull combinations.

    That's why i give him next to no chance.
    Hatton hasn't hit a china-chin like Khan's in years. Possibly never a chin so fragile.

    I don't see how anyone could think Hatton would not spark Khan if he caught him? There's really no doubt at all.
    I'm not so sure. Hatton's not the sort of fighter to throw hooks to the head...well accurately at least and every time Khan has been in trouble it's been a hook that's caught him on the temple. Hatton will mainly throw straight right hands that fly over the target and Khan will counter him for fun.

    I agree Khan's punch resistance is awful although at 135 that was more than likely because his bodyfat was at 1.5%

    Seriously though, any fighter has a punchers chances against Khan, but i still give Hatton next to no chance.

    I see a methodical beatdown that falls somewhere in between what Floyd and Pacquiao did to Hatton.

    Be a shame for him to go out like that. I just don't see him ever being able to deal with fast combinations.
    I think you're underrating Hatton and overrating Khan. Hatton has won 45 fights. I'm pretty sure he landed punches to win those fights. Khan struggled with Gomez pressure, and although improved has beaten a decent defensive fighter in Kotelink. I'm pretty sure Kotelnik is not in Hatton's class.

    I would make Khan slight favourite but the very fact Hatton can do him with a clip makes it intriguing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post

    Hatton hasn't hit a china-chin like Khan's in years. Possibly never a chin so fragile.

    I don't see how anyone could think Hatton would not spark Khan if he caught him? There's really no doubt at all.
    I'm not so sure. Hatton's not the sort of fighter to throw hooks to the head...well accurately at least and every time Khan has been in trouble it's been a hook that's caught him on the temple. Hatton will mainly throw straight right hands that fly over the target and Khan will counter him for fun.

    I agree Khan's punch resistance is awful although at 135 that was more than likely because his bodyfat was at 1.5%

    Seriously though, any fighter has a punchers chances against Khan, but i still give Hatton next to no chance.

    I see a methodical beatdown that falls somewhere in between what Floyd and Pacquiao did to Hatton.

    Be a shame for him to go out like that. I just don't see him ever being able to deal with fast combinations.
    I think you're underrating Hatton and overrating Khan. Hatton has won 45 fights. I'm pretty sure he landed punches to win those fights. Khan struggled with Gomez pressure, and although improved has beaten a decent defensive fighter in Kotelink. I'm pretty sure Kotelnik is not in Hatton's class.

    I would make Khan slight favourite but the very fact Hatton can do him with a clip makes it intriguing.
    The fact Ricky has been partying like a rock-star since the Pac loss, and the fact that Freddie will have the perfect strategy for Amir to implement worries me alot.

    That said, Ricky will more than likely get in the shape of his life for a fight with Amir, and he will need to. I know contrary to whatever Ricky says in the media about Amir, his true feelings are alot different .I think Rick can make this a messy fight and bully Amir. If he lands the bodyshots and takes Khans legs away, closes the distance, which Hatton is brilliant at, I can see the left hook downstairs and up ending the argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy G-Force View Post
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    I'm not so sure. Hatton's not the sort of fighter to throw hooks to the head...well accurately at least and every time Khan has been in trouble it's been a hook that's caught him on the temple. Hatton will mainly throw straight right hands that fly over the target and Khan will counter him for fun.

    I agree Khan's punch resistance is awful although at 135 that was more than likely because his bodyfat was at 1.5%

    Seriously though, any fighter has a punchers chances against Khan, but i still give Hatton next to no chance.

    I see a methodical beatdown that falls somewhere in between what Floyd and Pacquiao did to Hatton.

    Be a shame for him to go out like that. I just don't see him ever being able to deal with fast combinations.
    I think you're underrating Hatton and overrating Khan. Hatton has won 45 fights. I'm pretty sure he landed punches to win those fights. Khan struggled with Gomez pressure, and although improved has beaten a decent defensive fighter in Kotelink. I'm pretty sure Kotelnik is not in Hatton's class.

    I would make Khan slight favourite but the very fact Hatton can do him with a clip makes it intriguing.
    The fact Ricky has been partying like a rock-star since the Pac loss, and the fact that Freddie will have the perfect strategy for Amir to implement worries me alot.

    That said, Ricky will more than likely get in the shape of his life for a fight with Amir, and he will need to. I know contrary to whatever Ricky says in the media about Amir, his true feelings are alot different .I think Rick can make this a messy fight and bully Amir. If he lands the bodyshots and takes Khans legs away, closes the distance, which Hatton is brilliant at, I can see the left hook downstairs and up ending the argument.
    I cant see Hatton's telegraphed left hook to the body ending it to be honest, his best shot is to bully and harrass him like you say. But Khan I think will hurt Ricky early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy G-Force View Post
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    I think you're underrating Hatton and overrating Khan. Hatton has won 45 fights. I'm pretty sure he landed punches to win those fights. Khan struggled with Gomez pressure, and although improved has beaten a decent defensive fighter in Kotelink. I'm pretty sure Kotelnik is not in Hatton's class.

    I would make Khan slight favourite but the very fact Hatton can do him with a clip makes it intriguing.
    The fact Ricky has been partying like a rock-star since the Pac loss, and the fact that Freddie will have the perfect strategy for Amir to implement worries me alot.

    That said, Ricky will more than likely get in the shape of his life for a fight with Amir, and he will need to. I know contrary to whatever Ricky says in the media about Amir, his true feelings are alot different .I think Rick can make this a messy fight and bully Amir. If he lands the bodyshots and takes Khans legs away, closes the distance, which Hatton is brilliant at, I can see the left hook downstairs and up ending the argument.
    I cant see Hatton's telegraphed left hook to the body ending it to be honest, his best shot is to bully and harrass him like you say. But Khan I think will hurt Ricky early.
    Neither can I Skel, I was talking about doubling up the left hook, downstairs then upstairs. That could be the combination if he gets close enough and gets it off without being countered by Khans fast hands. Gomez had no problem landing it, and he was more shot than JFK. I've just phoned Ray Hatton, but he is in a meeting and will call me back. So I can give everyone some more information when I've had a chat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post

    Hatton hasn't hit a china-chin like Khan's in years. Possibly never a chin so fragile.

    I don't see how anyone could think Hatton would not spark Khan if he caught him? There's really no doubt at all.
    I'm not so sure. Hatton's not the sort of fighter to throw hooks to the head...well accurately at least and every time Khan has been in trouble it's been a hook that's caught him on the temple. Hatton will mainly throw straight right hands that fly over the target and Khan will counter him for fun.

    I agree Khan's punch resistance is awful although at 135 that was more than likely because his bodyfat was at 1.5%

    Seriously though, any fighter has a punchers chances against Khan, but i still give Hatton next to no chance.

    I see a methodical beatdown that falls somewhere in between what Floyd and Pacquiao did to Hatton.

    Be a shame for him to go out like that. I just don't see him ever being able to deal with fast combinations.
    I think you're underrating Hatton and overrating Khan. Hatton has won 45 fights. I'm pretty sure he landed punches to win those fights. Khan struggled with Gomez pressure, and although improved has beaten a decent defensive fighter in Kotelink. I'm pretty sure Kotelnik is not in Hatton's class.

    I would make Khan slight favourite but the very fact Hatton can do him with a clip makes it intriguing.
    Believe me i'm not. I just think Khan is a horrible style for Hatton to deal with. He's (RH) in awful condition and the fact there was talk of Hatton fighting at 147 makes me think he'll find 140 difficult. Add the fact that Roach already knows what Hatton's weaknesses are and that Khan has handpseed that Hatton can't deal with, for me makes it an easy fight to predict.

    Like i've said over and over again, Hatton simply cannot deal with fast combination punchers. Never has and never will. I'd be surprised to see anything other than a KO win for Khan.

    It's just my opinion, and like every Khan fight there as a chance his punch resistance will let him down, but for me, practically everything is stacked in Khan's favour here.
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