The definitive Mayweather/Pac article

[generalbulldog]

If someone won't take the test, how are you meant to prove they are cheating? Everyone agree that PED's are probably a problem in boxing. Where better to change the standard than in the biggest fight in history?
It is precisely because PBF is facing "a very live, very dangerous opponent" that he is demanding more stringent testing. What is wrong with that.
If you were going into this fight with your entire reputation and legacy on the line against someone you thought may be on PED's, you wouldn't want to use the test that would prevent him from using, or would you just go i there anyway?
As for the idea that Manny doesn't want to give him the upper hand! If I was going into a fight and my opponent said that I was so good that the only explanation was that I was on PEDs, that would be a huge boost to my confidence. I get the advantage by saying I'll test anytime any where, unless I was............
Hell I could have won the Nobel prize in Maths but I just didn't want to go that way. Because I didn't, you can't prove that I couldn't have.

Sorry the burden of proof is on the accuser not the accused. I can say that you like to touch little kids like Michael Jackson and Gary Glitter and that if you don't take this pedophile test then you are guilty is not proof especially if you weren't suspected of it before.

BTW I'm still waiting for emails that said Pacquiao tested dirty and wanted to cover it up. I'm still waiting for these so called hard evidence. So where is it? It's been practically a month already. Can you answer me?

For a while I thought maybe the guy is on something, then it dawn on me that most of this shit was hearsay rumors like the emails and Floyds dad starting the rumors because his fighter Hatton got sparked out in 2 rounds.

If your doing something extreme and arn't will to rule out the obvious then people will start talking. Using your very own example, if your child's baby sitter has been strongly accused of of being a paedo and everyone is talking about it. If there was a test that they could take, say a lie detector, that would show that they are innocent, and they refused for whatever reason, would you leave your kids with them?
I work in the ED, and if someone is accused of alcohol or drug taking and they refuse a test, then they are viewed to be guilty.
Anyone coming in following an MVA gets a blood alcohol level, even if they deny drinking or have never failed a alcohol test before

So what Pacquiao doing is extreme in boxing? Do you know your boxing history? So what Ray Robinson, Armstrong, Ted Kid Lewis were doing were extreme? How about a modern great like Duran? Ever seen his fights with Moore and Barkley? What weight did Duran start at? How about 122.

BTW, you never answered me this question. Where is the hardcore evidence against Pacquiao? Not hearsay rumors, not innuendo, but hardcore evidence. As in someone in his camp with testimonial evidence. Physical evidence with needles lying around. And oh yeah what happened to the emails that Teddy Atlas reported as fact that Pacqiao and his people asked Mayweather to cover up for him to save boxing.

So where are the emails? Surely if let's say the New York Times can uncover things like the Pentagon Papers with regards to the Vietnam War surely they can come up with emails that the sports biggest draw was asking people to cover up his dirty drug secrets. Teddy Atlas reported that a reporter of teh NY Times saw the emails. The NY Times has a very strong reputation when it comes to journalistic integrity.

So let me ask again. Where are the emails? Where is the hard evidence? (I have a feeling another bullshit excuse is on the way)

[miron_lang]

Sorry the burden of proof is on the accuser not the accused. I can say that you like to touch little kids like Michael Jackson and Gary Glitter and that if you don't take this pedophile test then you are guilty is not proof especially if you weren't suspected of it before.

BTW I'm still waiting for emails that said Pacquiao tested dirty and wanted to cover it up. I'm still waiting for these so called hard evidence. So where is it? It's been practically a month already. Can you answer me?

For a while I thought maybe the guy is on something, then it dawn on me that most of this shit was hearsay rumors like the emails and Floyds dad starting the rumors because his fighter Hatton got sparked out in 2 rounds.

If your doing something extreme and arn't will to rule out the obvious then people will start talking. Using your very own example, if your child's baby sitter has been strongly accused of of being a paedo and everyone is talking about it. If there was a test that they could take, say a lie detector, that would show that they are innocent, and they refused for whatever reason, would you leave your kids with them?
I work in the ED, and if someone is accused of alcohol or drug taking and they refuse a test, then they are viewed to be guilty.
Anyone coming in following an MVA gets a blood alcohol level, even if they deny drinking or have never failed a alcohol test before

So what Pacquiao doing is extreme in boxing? Do you know your boxing history? So what Ray Robinson, Armstrong, Ted Kid Lewis were doing were extreme? How about a modern great like Duran? Ever seen his fights with Moore and Barkley? What weight did Duran start at? How about 122.

BTW, you never answered me this question. Where is the hardcore evidence against Pacquiao? Not hearsay rumors, not innuendo, but hardcore evidence. As in someone in his camp with testimonial evidence. Physical evidence with needles lying around. And oh yeah what happened to the emails that Teddy Atlas reported as fact that Pacqiao and his people asked Mayweather to cover up for him to save boxing.

So where are the emails? Surely if let's say the New York Times can uncover things like the Pentagon Papers with regards to the Vietnam War surely they can come up with emails that the sports biggest draw was asking people to cover up his dirty drug secrets. Teddy Atlas reported that a reporter of teh NY Times saw the emails. The NY Times has a very strong reputation when it comes to journalistic integrity.

So let me ask again. Where are the emails? Where is the hard evidence? (I have a feeling another bullshit excuse is on the way)

Atlas probably deleted it after their SysAd learned that the IP trace reveals that the IP Address was from Michigan.