The Definitive PED article

[killersheep]

Great article and great points Jaz. I'll give a more insightful response when I'm back on my computer. The main crux of the difficulty of cleaning up the sport is those that directly profit and stand to lose their livelihood from stricter testing.

[Gandalf]

Good read. Away from the blame game, there can be no doubt that testing for PED's in boxing needs to be stepped up. Unlike other sports, boxing is a serious one where fists become weapons. It's dangerous, and for that reason alone we should not be allowing drugs cheats to slip through the net.

[Nameless]

The thing is: the rules about anti-doping probably date from an era where urine was way enough to detect most stuff of the era. Things changed well since then and bio-technology are upgrading lightspeed. TO keep with such improvement of techniques and produces, it would be just normal that the commission updates itself once in a while otherwise it ends up like now: obsolete rules for brand new techniques.

[JazMerkin]

Like the article & some of you guys have said, it really doesn't seem that boxing wants to clean itself up. Using Shane Mosley as an example we can see the problem. He was one of the biggest stars in the sport at the start of the 2000's, would those in Nevada or Califiornia really want to lose the income that his fights in their states brought in?

It also makes you look at boxers and wonder who is actually clean. It would be great if more of the top fighters started voluntarily bringing in the USADA style testing. The fact Mayweather is doing it, leaves me very confident that he at least isn't and hasn't been on anything. I still think that the majority probably aren't, but with the situation now, it's hard to be fully confident in saying someone definitely isn't.

[Bomp]

Like the article & some of you guys have said, it really doesn't seem that boxing wants to clean itself up. Using Shane Mosley as an example we can see the problem. He was one of the biggest stars in the sport at the start of the 2000's, would those in Nevada or Califiornia really want to lose the income that his fights in their states brought in?

It also makes you look at boxers and wonder who is actually clean. It would be great if more of the top fighters started voluntarily bringing in the USADA style testing. The fact Mayweather is doing it, leaves me very confident that he at least isn't and hasn't been on anything. I still think that the majority probably aren't, but with the situation now, it's hard to be fully confident in saying someone definitely isn't.

That's the main point in any discussion, likely due to opportunity and desire to do better that your talking about the majority. No reason to expect athletes who put on the gloves to be any more 'moral' than any other sport, and even with test intensive sport like athletics and cycling many are still being caught, and the sad fact is that the drug providers will always be a step ahead of the testers. The only 'fool proof' answer where no one is ever a suspect is to legalise it.