Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
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You can't convince someone that desperately, desperately, wants to believe.

I didn't read it, PEDs bore me, but I don't have to be convinced, its obvious that the type of tests Manny wants are those that allow you to get away with using.
Like I said, I'm not really bothered about Manny particularly, it was more the Adamek thread that got me thinking about how widespread it may be in the sport and what unbelievably shoddy testing procedures we have.

Regardless of the initial motivations behind it, it would be fantastic if the Mayweather-Mosley fight became a catalyst for boxing cleaning itself in this regard. There will always be bad scorecards and poor refereeing decisions, but it would be great if we could at least be confident that the sport's top fighters are clean.
The first response to your article responded exactly with what we we NOT trying to talk about here which is the Mayweather-Pacquiao breakdown. But, I guess this topic would have never come up without that instance. Thanks for the great read, Jaz. Good to know what is happening in sports these days.

I guess the other thing is, most fighters aren't banned, or forgotten after having something like this happen. Is there any question that Mosley will not get in the HOF? Baseball is completely writing off these guys. Canseco, McGuir, ARod, will NEVER get in their HOF.