Pac having blood taken 20 days before the Clottey fight..

[15rounder]

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WTF??

Pac has blood taken 20 days out which also says it tests for PED'S?? But won't 14 days out?? Pac stated that he wanted a 24 day cut off or the blood test makes him weak hahaha but has one 20 days out before his next fight, now I have supported Pac in recent times over this Floyd fight but this is a joke.

It was asked or required by a sports commission or governing body. Surely Pacman will submit himself to that. Why not, its the commission asking for it. Not just a thug wanting to impose his smart ass tactics before the fight.

Some thug?? So what about Pac demanding ten million for every pound Floyd comes in over 147?? That aint the commission asking for it. Pac is a joke.

Pac did that because he saw the chickenshit that Floyd pulled in his previous fight. AKA, Floyd had a recent record of doing it. Manny has no history of failing drug tests. That's why so many people are putting this on Floyd. I don't know what's going through manny's head. I don't know why he didn't take the test. Not taking a side here, just responding to this post

[killersheep]

It was asked or required by a sports commission or governing body. Surely Pacman will submit himself to that. Why not, its the commission asking for it. Not just a thug wanting to impose his smart ass tactics before the fight.

Some thug?? So what about Pac demanding ten million for every pound Floyd comes in over 147?? That aint the commission asking for it. Pac is a joke.

Pac did that because he saw the chickenshit that Floyd pulled in his previous fight. AKA, Floyd had a recent record of doing it. Manny has no history of failing drug tests. That's why so many people are putting this on Floyd. I don't know what's going through manny's head. I don't know why he didn't take the test. Not taking a side here, just responding to this post

Clottey has pulled a "chickenshit" as you put it 11 times at Welterweight. What is Clottey's penalty for missing weight?

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Some thug?? So what about Pac demanding ten million for every pound Floyd comes in over 147?? That aint the commission asking for it. Pac is a joke.

Pac did that because he saw the chickenshit that Floyd pulled in his previous fight. AKA, Floyd had a recent record of doing it. Manny has no history of failing drug tests. That's why so many people are putting this on Floyd. I don't know what's going through manny's head. I don't know why he didn't take the test. Not taking a side here, just responding to this post

Clottey has pulled a "chickenshit" as you put it 11 times at Welterweight. What is Clottey's penalty for missing weight?

I have responded to this allegation about Clottey missing the 147 mark 11 times in another thread. There had been no succeeding comments after my post.

Here's the link: http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...clottey-2.html

[killersheep]

Pac did that because he saw the chickenshit that Floyd pulled in his previous fight. AKA, Floyd had a recent record of doing it. Manny has no history of failing drug tests. That's why so many people are putting this on Floyd. I don't know what's going through manny's head. I don't know why he didn't take the test. Not taking a side here, just responding to this post

Clottey has pulled a "chickenshit" as you put it 11 times at Welterweight. What is Clottey's penalty for missing weight?

I have responded to this allegation about Clottey missing the 147 mark 11 times in another thread. There had been no succeeding comments after my post.

Here's the link: http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...clottey-2.html

Why does it matter if his opponents made weight or not? That doesn't change the fact that he DIDN'T make weight 11 times. Clottey is a big welter it's just a matter of time until he CAN'T make weight. This is a much more real risk and would be a much bigger advantage to Clottey than it ever would to Mayweather. Furthermore Mayweather missed weight ONE time at a catchweight 147 Mayweather - 144 JMM there are two examples as you pointed out that Clottey has done this, both times his opponents at welterweight.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Clottey has pulled a "chickenshit" as you put it 11 times at Welterweight. What is Clottey's penalty for missing weight?

I have responded to this allegation about Clottey missing the 147 mark 11 times in another thread. There had been no succeeding comments after my post.

Here's the link: http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...clottey-2.html

Why does it matter if his opponents made weight or not? That doesn't change the fact that he DIDN'T make weight 11 times. Clottey is a big welter it's just a matter of time until he CAN'T make weight. This is a much more real risk and would be a much bigger advantage to Clottey than it ever would to Mayweather. Furthermore Mayweather missed weight ONE time at a catchweight 147 Mayweather - 144 JMM there are two examples as you pointed out that Clottey has done this, both times his opponents at welterweight.

It matters because you're implying that Clottey pulled a "chickenshit" on his opponent 11 times. Are you trying to tell us that both Clottey and his opponent did not make weight 11 times? Or were they fighting at Super Welterweight?

But the way Mayweather missed the weight gave a lot of people the impression that he did not even intend to make that weight. If he intend to remain within the weight agreement in the Pacquiao fight (and it would not be a hardship on his part since he made it in his last fight), then the $ 10,000,000 demand would not even be an issue. The other option that Team Pacquiao could have asked is for the fight to be cancelled if either of them missed weight which had happened in the Corrales-Castillo III. Would you rather have that stipulation?

[JJson]

intheneutralcorner

But the way Mayweather missed the weight gave a lot of people the impression that he did not even intend to make that weight. If he intend to remain within the weight agreement in the Pacquiao fight (and it would not be a hardship on his part since he made it in his last fight), then the $ 10,000,000 demand would not even be an issue. The other option that Team Pacquiao could have asked is for the fight to be cancelled if either of them missed weight which had happened in the Corrales-Castillo III. Would you rather have that stipulation?

There is a certain level of vacuity that inundate much of the analysis of the MP PBF issue. Floyd Maweather's decision to pay a fine rather than risk going into a fight in weaken state because of weight loss is quite consistent with the condition of random drug testing he demanded from Manny. PBF wants to leave the profession with a clean bill of health mentally and physically. Unfortunately for his reputation, the boxing fan base, in its postulations, tend to reflect a the condition of the very loss of the acuity he is trying like hell to avoid. In this context they skirt the obvious and sound rational behind his decisions, because, for them, they are inconsistent with their visceral desires. Boyoboy, Jack Johnson would have loved this crowd.

Floyd Mayweather took accountabilty for not making weight. He paid up and did not make any excuses. Like you said, he never intended to make that weight. You did not then proceed to the next logical step and examine why. You display this same kind of convenient abortion in your thought processes when examining MP position. It is sophopmoric, (and I am using a euphemism here), to continue with the crap that MP refused the condition because PBF asked for it. He refused because random drug testing would have exposed his use of PEDs. Simple

You are presenting suppositions in defense of MP refusal to undergo random drug testing, and to paint PBF as the villian. It is silly, I am sorry. The fight ended because MP refused to undergo random drug testing. Presenting a treatise based on PBF not making an agreed upon weight limit and paying a penalty cannot obfuscate that reality.

Floyd Mayweather is not in the class of Mohammed on an activism and spiritual level, but in many ways their basic personalities are the same. They both exhibit a brashness and confidence that brings out visceral hate in some, who then become devoid of logic and commonsense in their reasonings. Someone asked Ali once how many people he expected would be coming to a fight to see him win. He said he did not know, but what he knew was that a significant number would be coming to see him get beat. Or words to that effect anyway.

If I was PBF I would retire after beating Mosely and never fight again. That would be the sweetest revenge he could have on his haters. They would develop reflux and maybe ulcers from disappointment and frustration over missing out on the vicarious thrill of seeing get beat down. And they would be deserving of the burning bile that is symptomatic of the consequence of such an emotional let down.

[killersheep]

I have responded to this allegation about Clottey missing the 147 mark 11 times in another thread. There had been no succeeding comments after my post.

Here's the link: http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...clottey-2.html

Why does it matter if his opponents made weight or not? That doesn't change the fact that he DIDN'T make weight 11 times. Clottey is a big welter it's just a matter of time until he CAN'T make weight. This is a much more real risk and would be a much bigger advantage to Clottey than it ever would to Mayweather. Furthermore Mayweather missed weight ONE time at a catchweight 147 Mayweather - 144 JMM there are two examples as you pointed out that Clottey has done this, both times his opponents at welterweight.

It matters because you're implying that Clottey pulled a "chickenshit" on his opponent 11 times. Are you trying to tell us that both Clottey and his opponent did not make weight 11 times? Or were they fighting at Super Welterweight?

But the way Mayweather missed the weight gave a lot of people the impression that he did not even intend to make that weight. If he intend to remain within the weight agreement in the Pacquiao fight (and it would not be a hardship on his part since he made it in his last fight), then the $ 10,000,000 demand would not even be an issue. The other option that Team Pacquiao could have asked is for the fight to be cancelled if either of them missed weight which had happened in the Corrales-Castillo III. Would you rather have that stipulation?

I would have no problem with that. Mayweather would have no problem with that either, afterall he did agree to give up $10,000,000 per pound, something he wouldn't agree to had he intended to not make weight. This is an endless circle these points have been made a million times in dozens of threads, we are never going to agree on this, so not much point in continuing this debate.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Why does it matter if his opponents made weight or not? That doesn't change the fact that he DIDN'T make weight 11 times. Clottey is a big welter it's just a matter of time until he CAN'T make weight. This is a much more real risk and would be a much bigger advantage to Clottey than it ever would to Mayweather. Furthermore Mayweather missed weight ONE time at a catchweight 147 Mayweather - 144 JMM there are two examples as you pointed out that Clottey has done this, both times his opponents at welterweight.

It matters because you're implying that Clottey pulled a "chickenshit" on his opponent 11 times. Are you trying to tell us that both Clottey and his opponent did not make weight 11 times? Or were they fighting at Super Welterweight?

But the way Mayweather missed the weight gave a lot of people the impression that he did not even intend to make that weight. If he intend to remain within the weight agreement in the Pacquiao fight (and it would not be a hardship on his part since he made it in his last fight), then the $ 10,000,000 demand would not even be an issue. The other option that Team Pacquiao could have asked is for the fight to be cancelled if either of them missed weight which had happened in the Corrales-Castillo III. Would you rather have that stipulation?

I would have no problem with that. Mayweather would have no problem with that either, afterall he did agree to give up $10,000,000 per pound, something he wouldn't agree to had he intended to not make weight. This is an endless circle these points have been made a million times in dozens of threads, we are never going to agree on this, so not much point in continuing this debate.

Didn't you already say that you did not mean to get sucked back in this? Oh yeah, I also said that I rest my case.

So, what the heck are we still doing in this thread?

[Majesty]

if Pacquiao's name was Floyd Mayweather his reputation would be destroyed and he would probably never be able to come back on it with the media on him 24/7 with questions and millions of sportswriters saying bad about him.

Know why?

Cause Pacquiao = money to them and is easily sold as the good guy, he could do whatever he wants to and it would only maybe appear in small news, you wouldn't see it on ESPN or anything at all.

But Mayweather makes a statement and its on ESPN and they bash him for anything he says.

How much news have you heard about the Cotto situation?

Little to none, except one article.

Boxing never attacks their good guys.. until AFTER retirement when they are no longer profitable inside the ring. If Mayweather J-walked across the street you'd hear about it. But Pacquiao and his camp have been a rolling ball of contradictions as has his promoter Bob Arum, but nobody is saying anything the only place you see it is on here or a boxing site, but its never covered by big news. And you know all these "analysts" and everything see the same articles we do, and they COULD say something about it.. but they don't, its saddening how there are no more boxing writers, they are just a bunch of forum goers trying to put a spin on their own story under a professional name.

Sportswriters are the biggest "trolls" on the internet nowadays, and its saddening how we are forum goers in some of the things we say and find out do more and print more then they ever do and they know twice as much as it's their job to. Saddening to see one boxer favored so much and getting a pass on it and the fighter who exposed him get flack for it.