About Roy Jones Jr.

[AdamGB]

It's a complete fallacy that jones put on 19lbs...

Look at him in his last few fights at Light Heavy... no way was he walking around at 175.

Of course he did put on some mass but a lot of the weight gain would have came from the fact that he didn't have to cut and boil down in camp this time out.

From something he stopped doing, not something he did.

Mate, I said from his last bout. he was 174 againts Woods. and there's no debate about him roiding. He had a history of roiding officially.

Ethics of Jone's testings etc aside 5,10,15lbs or what ever on a short man is not the same as on a tall man. Will leave the debates about testing etc for others but talking about weight is largely irelevant.

How much did you put on over the few weeks of Christmas? Performance is the issue here.

Fine mate lets forget about weight.

Performance? Are you more impressed with Pacquiao than how Roy performed?

With that question. Are thinking these athletes are not capable of performing great feats? You think what Pac has done is more "Unbelievable" than Winning 126, 135 and 147 simultaneously as what Armstrong did? or you also think Armstrong is questionable because of that?

No, I'm not saying that Jones doesn't have a history or that he did weigh in at 174. I'm saying that Pac's weight and Roy's weight are moot points.

Joe Calzaghe could boil down to 168 and if I'm remembering right didn't even weight 175 when he fought at light heavy - he is still known to walk around at 190 (some say closer to 200 but I don't know about that...)

Fuck, vargas/mayorga etc all walked around at 170, you understand how drying up works right?

lol... and I'm not even talking about Armstrong, let alone saing this or that about him

Like I said I can't really be bothered to debate testing and public opinion etc... just read your comments regarding weight and thought I'd play devil's advocote.

pac doesn't get stick for his weight going up, or his acheivments. he gets it for floundering, condtradicting himself and flip flopping with all of the excuses and stipulations ('I want a schedule for the random tests' etc)

For what it's worth I agree that it's unfair that Jones/Mosely get off the hook whilst Pac doesn't despite not being a proven cheat - people want to see the two best fighters box each other and if Pac acts the way he did under those circumstances than back lash is inevitable, deserved or not.