Miranda could always land his big right hand and chance everything, but Bute is a better fighter in literally every aspect of the game. I'd be surprised if Miranda didn't get stopped relatively early.Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
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Miranda could always land his big right hand and chance everything, but Bute is a better fighter in literally every aspect of the game. I'd be surprised if Miranda didn't get stopped relatively early.
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I hope Miranda pull this off.
Froch says that Bute was offered to fight him but declined and that Bute just wants easy title defences.
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If that's true, I'd love to know the context surrounding it. I'm not a huge Bute fan by any means, but he would crush Froch and he knows it.
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Bute wanted the fight...Froch wanted the fight...Bute agreed to fight in England....This was IF Bute Andrade 2 fell through...Neither of the big networks (Sho/Hbo) wanted Bute Andrade 2....If that's true, I'd love to know the context surrounding it. I'm not a huge Bute fan by any means, but he would crush Froch and he knows it.
Froch and his people then became arrogant putting stiulations on the fight on top of the agreement to fight in England...So talks of setting a date were scrapped.(That was Butes idea by the way)...
Bute/Andrade ended up signing and getting network support....Bute still wanted Froch and after the Taylor fight was hoping it would materialize but the Super 6 ended up spoiling everyones plans
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Bute would have boxed Frochs pants off... Slick southpaw with power and legs spell doom for a guy like Froch with shitty balance and bad technique.Bute wanted the fight...Froch wanted the fight...Bute agreed to fight in England....This was IF Bute Andrade 2 fell through...Neither of the big networks (Sho/Hbo) wanted Bute Andrade 2....If that's true, I'd love to know the context surrounding it. I'm not a huge Bute fan by any means, but he would crush Froch and he knows it.
Froch and his people then became arrogant putting stiulations on the fight on top of the agreement to fight in England...So talks of setting a date were scrapped.(That was Butes idea by the way)...
Bute/Andrade ended up signing and getting network support....Bute still wanted Froch and after the Taylor fight was hoping it would materialize but the Super 6 ended up spoiling everyones plans
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How do you know that?Bute wanted the fight...Froch wanted the fight...Bute agreed to fight in England....This was IF Bute Andrade 2 fell through...Neither of the big networks (Sho/Hbo) wanted Bute Andrade 2....If that's true, I'd love to know the context surrounding it. I'm not a huge Bute fan by any means, but he would crush Froch and he knows it.
Froch and his people then became arrogant putting stiulations on the fight on top of the agreement to fight in England...So talks of setting a date were scrapped.(That was Butes idea by the way)...
Bute/Andrade ended up signing and getting network support....Bute still wanted Froch and after the Taylor fight was hoping it would materialize but the Super 6 ended up spoiling everyones plans
Don't you think it's far more likely Froch-Bute would have been in Canada?
1. Bute sells 15,000 tickets to Froch's 5,000 in England.
2. Bute hasn't left Montreal for 50 years. Froch has proved he's willing to defend his title in the other guys backyard - Taylor, Kessler.
3. Bute had Showtime and now HBO screening his fights. Froch isn't even on mainstream TV in the UK.
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How do you know that?Bute wanted the fight...Froch wanted the fight...Bute agreed to fight in England....This was IF Bute Andrade 2 fell through...Neither of the big networks (Sho/Hbo) wanted Bute Andrade 2....
Froch and his people then became arrogant putting stiulations on the fight on top of the agreement to fight in England...So talks of setting a date were scrapped.(That was Butes idea by the way)...
Bute/Andrade ended up signing and getting network support....Bute still wanted Froch and after the Taylor fight was hoping it would materialize but the Super 6 ended up spoiling everyones plans
Don't you think it's far more likely Froch-Bute would have been in Canada?
1. Bute sells 15,000 tickets to Froch's 5,000 in England.
2. Bute hasn't left Montreal for 50 years. Froch has proved he's willing to defend his title in the other guys backyard - Taylor, Kessler.
3. Bute had Showtime and now HBO screening his fights. Froch isn't even on mainstream TV in the UK.
Take a wild guess on how I know?
Hint...One guy promotes Taylor the other part of Bute's team
Froch has had 2 fights outside of the UK....You act as if Froch fighting in the states against Taylor makes him sound like a champion willing to travel.....He has defended the belt twice...Once in the super 6 and they took Taylor because they wanted a fight with a marketable name that they felt Froch would walk over (Though until Taylor gassed Froch was having it handed to him)........I PROMISE you it had to do with Froch and Dick Hennessy looking to make him mainstream not Froch and his "Willing" to travel
Same night I was trying to be convinced that Carl Froch was a 12 rd fighter and he was not at his best until he reached the 9th or 10th round....Yet he had only been 12 2 times prior in his career..
BTW I know that because the words came straight to me from Froch's mouth...
I don't know about mainstream TV in the UK so I can't say if he is or isn't but for all the talk of him over the last few years in a dead SMW division and articles I read abt him even before Pascal I would have guessed different...BUT that then enforces the part of Froch and his people trying to use Taylor as a jump off to make him Mainstream
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That doesn't make sense. You're saying Froch travelling doesn't prove he's willing to travel. Seriously, what the fuck?How do you know that?
Don't you think it's far more likely Froch-Bute would have been in Canada?
1. Bute sells 15,000 tickets to Froch's 5,000 in England.
2. Bute hasn't left Montreal for 50 years. Froch has proved he's willing to defend his title in the other guys backyard - Taylor, Kessler.
3. Bute had Showtime and now HBO screening his fights. Froch isn't even on mainstream TV in the UK.
Take a wild guess on how I know?
Hint...One guy promotes Taylor the other part of Bute's team
Froch has had 2 fights outside of the UK....You act as if Froch fighting in the states against Taylor makes him sound like a champion willing to travel.....He has defended the belt twice...Once in the super 6 and they took Taylor because they wanted a fight with a marketable name that they felt Froch would walk over (Though until Taylor gassed Froch was having it handed to him)........I PROMISE you it had to do with Froch and Dick Hennessy looking to make him mainstream not Froch and his "Willing" to travel
Same night I was trying to be convinced that Carl Froch was a 12 rd fighter and he was not at his best until he reached the 9th or 10th round....Yet he had only been 12 2 times prior in his career..
BTW I know that because the words came straight to me from Froch's mouth...
I don't know about mainstream TV in the UK so I can't say if he is or isn't but for all the talk of him over the last few years in a dead SMW division and articles I read abt him even before Pascal I would have guessed different...BUT that then enforces the part of Froch and his people trying to use Taylor as a jump off to make him Mainstream
Taylor was Froch's mandatory (when does the champion travel to the challenger?), the betting favourite and most "experts" picked him to win. So don't try and pass it off as some caluculated non-risk.
Of course fighting a former P4P undisputed middleweight champion will get you mainstream attention. How is that a negative? Unfortunately for Froch it didn't do much in the UK.
He could have eaisly done what Bute has - defend his belt against a bunch of c/b-level guys.
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Bute's promoter told you about the England thing and then the arrogance and stipulations. Well he would say that. I'm sure Mick Hennessy has a different story.
From a neutrals perspective it's far harder to believe Bute was the willing traveller
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