Lucian Bute

[Master]

I hope Miranda pull this off.

Froch says that Bute was offered to fight him but declined and that Bute just wants easy title defences.

[CFH]

I hope Miranda pull this off.

Froch says that Bute was offered to fight him but declined and that Bute just wants easy title defences.

If that's true, I'd love to know the context surrounding it. I'm not a huge Bute fan by any means, but he would crush Froch and he knows it.

[DaxxKahn]

I hope Miranda pull this off.

Froch says that Bute was offered to fight him but declined and that Bute just wants easy title defences.

If that's true, I'd love to know the context surrounding it. I'm not a huge Bute fan by any means, but he would crush Froch and he knows it.

Bute wanted the fight...Froch wanted the fight...Bute agreed to fight in England....This was IF Bute Andrade 2 fell through...Neither of the big networks (Sho/Hbo) wanted Bute Andrade 2....

Froch and his people then became arrogant putting stiulations on the fight on top of the agreement to fight in England...So talks of setting a date were scrapped.(That was Butes idea by the way)...

Bute/Andrade ended up signing and getting network support....Bute still wanted Froch and after the Taylor fight was hoping it would materialize but the Super 6 ended up spoiling everyones plans

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I hope Miranda pull this off.

Froch says that Bute was offered to fight him but declined and that Bute just wants easy title defences.

If that's true, I'd love to know the context surrounding it. I'm not a huge Bute fan by any means, but he would crush Froch and he knows it.

Bute wanted the fight...Froch wanted the fight...Bute agreed to fight in England....This was IF Bute Andrade 2 fell through...Neither of the big networks (Sho/Hbo) wanted Bute Andrade 2....

Froch and his people then became arrogant putting stiulations on the fight on top of the agreement to fight in England...So talks of setting a date were scrapped.(That was Butes idea by the way)...

Bute/Andrade ended up signing and getting network support....Bute still wanted Froch and after the Taylor fight was hoping it would materialize but the Super 6 ended up spoiling everyones plans

Bute would have boxed Frochs pants off... Slick southpaw with power and legs spell doom for a guy like Froch with shitty balance and bad technique.

[Fenster]

I hope Miranda pull this off.

Froch says that Bute was offered to fight him but declined and that Bute just wants easy title defences.

If that's true, I'd love to know the context surrounding it. I'm not a huge Bute fan by any means, but he would crush Froch and he knows it.

Bute wanted the fight...Froch wanted the fight...Bute agreed to fight in England....This was IF Bute Andrade 2 fell through...Neither of the big networks (Sho/Hbo) wanted Bute Andrade 2....

Froch and his people then became arrogant putting stiulations on the fight on top of the agreement to fight in England...So talks of setting a date were scrapped.(That was Butes idea by the way)...

Bute/Andrade ended up signing and getting network support....Bute still wanted Froch and after the Taylor fight was hoping it would materialize but the Super 6 ended up spoiling everyones plans

How do you know that?

Don't you think it's far more likely Froch-Bute would have been in Canada?

1. Bute sells 15,000 tickets to Froch's 5,000 in England.

2. Bute hasn't left Montreal for 50 years. Froch has proved he's willing to defend his title in the other guys backyard - Taylor, Kessler.

3. Bute had Showtime and now HBO screening his fights. Froch isn't even on mainstream TV in the UK.

[DaxxKahn]

If that's true, I'd love to know the context surrounding it. I'm not a huge Bute fan by any means, but he would crush Froch and he knows it.

Bute wanted the fight...Froch wanted the fight...Bute agreed to fight in England....This was IF Bute Andrade 2 fell through...Neither of the big networks (Sho/Hbo) wanted Bute Andrade 2....

Froch and his people then became arrogant putting stiulations on the fight on top of the agreement to fight in England...So talks of setting a date were scrapped.(That was Butes idea by the way)...

Bute/Andrade ended up signing and getting network support....Bute still wanted Froch and after the Taylor fight was hoping it would materialize but the Super 6 ended up spoiling everyones plans

How do you know that?

Don't you think it's far more likely Froch-Bute would have been in Canada?

1. Bute sells 15,000 tickets to Froch's 5,000 in England.

2. Bute hasn't left Montreal for 50 years. Froch has proved he's willing to defend his title in the other guys backyard - Taylor, Kessler.

3. Bute had Showtime and now HBO screening his fights. Froch isn't even on mainstream TV in the UK.

Take a wild guess on how I know?

Hint...One guy promotes Taylor the other part of Bute's team

Froch has had 2 fights outside of the UK....You act as if Froch fighting in the states against Taylor makes him sound like a champion willing to travel.....He has defended the belt twice...Once in the super 6 and they took Taylor because they wanted a fight with a marketable name that they felt Froch would walk over (Though until Taylor gassed Froch was having it handed to him)........I PROMISE you it had to do with Froch and Dick Hennessy looking to make him mainstream not Froch and his "Willing" to travel

Same night I was trying to be convinced that Carl Froch was a 12 rd fighter and he was not at his best until he reached the 9th or 10th round....Yet he had only been 12 2 times prior in his career..

BTW I know that because the words came straight to me from Froch's mouth...

I don't know about mainstream TV in the UK so I can't say if he is or isn't but for all the talk of him over the last few years in a dead SMW division and articles I read abt him even before Pascal I would have guessed different...BUT that then enforces the part of Froch and his people trying to use Taylor as a jump off to make him Mainstream

[Fenster]

Bute wanted the fight...Froch wanted the fight...Bute agreed to fight in England....This was IF Bute Andrade 2 fell through...Neither of the big networks (Sho/Hbo) wanted Bute Andrade 2....

Froch and his people then became arrogant putting stiulations on the fight on top of the agreement to fight in England...So talks of setting a date were scrapped.(That was Butes idea by the way)...

Bute/Andrade ended up signing and getting network support....Bute still wanted Froch and after the Taylor fight was hoping it would materialize but the Super 6 ended up spoiling everyones plans

How do you know that?

Don't you think it's far more likely Froch-Bute would have been in Canada?

1. Bute sells 15,000 tickets to Froch's 5,000 in England.

2. Bute hasn't left Montreal for 50 years. Froch has proved he's willing to defend his title in the other guys backyard - Taylor, Kessler.

3. Bute had Showtime and now HBO screening his fights. Froch isn't even on mainstream TV in the UK.

Take a wild guess on how I know?

Hint...One guy promotes Taylor the other part of Bute's team

Froch has had 2 fights outside of the UK....You act as if Froch fighting in the states against Taylor makes him sound like a champion willing to travel.....He has defended the belt twice...Once in the super 6 and they took Taylor because they wanted a fight with a marketable name that they felt Froch would walk over (Though until Taylor gassed Froch was having it handed to him)........I PROMISE you it had to do with Froch and Dick Hennessy looking to make him mainstream not Froch and his "Willing" to travel

Same night I was trying to be convinced that Carl Froch was a 12 rd fighter and he was not at his best until he reached the 9th or 10th round....Yet he had only been 12 2 times prior in his career..

BTW I know that because the words came straight to me from Froch's mouth...

I don't know about mainstream TV in the UK so I can't say if he is or isn't but for all the talk of him over the last few years in a dead SMW division and articles I read abt him even before Pascal I would have guessed different...BUT that then enforces the part of Froch and his people trying to use Taylor as a jump off to make him Mainstream

That doesn't make sense. You're saying Froch travelling doesn't prove he's willing to travel. Seriously, what the fuck?

Taylor was Froch's mandatory (when does the champion travel to the challenger?), the betting favourite and most "experts" picked him to win. So don't try and pass it off as some caluculated non-risk.

Of course fighting a former P4P undisputed middleweight champion will get you mainstream attention. How is that a negative? Unfortunately for Froch it didn't do much in the UK.

He could have eaisly done what Bute has - defend his belt against a bunch of c/b-level guys.

(Back to the point)

Bute's promoter told you about the England thing and then the arrogance and stipulations. Well he would say that. I'm sure Mick Hennessy has a different story.

From a neutrals perspective it's far harder to believe Bute was the willing traveller

[DaxxKahn]

How do you know that?

Don't you think it's far more likely Froch-Bute would have been in Canada?

1. Bute sells 15,000 tickets to Froch's 5,000 in England.

2. Bute hasn't left Montreal for 50 years. Froch has proved he's willing to defend his title in the other guys backyard - Taylor, Kessler.

3. Bute had Showtime and now HBO screening his fights. Froch isn't even on mainstream TV in the UK.

Take a wild guess on how I know?

Hint...One guy promotes Taylor the other part of Bute's team

Froch has had 2 fights outside of the UK....You act as if Froch fighting in the states against Taylor makes him sound like a champion willing to travel.....He has defended the belt twice...Once in the super 6 and they took Taylor because they wanted a fight with a marketable name that they felt Froch would walk over (Though until Taylor gassed Froch was having it handed to him)........I PROMISE you it had to do with Froch and Dick Hennessy looking to make him mainstream not Froch and his "Willing" to travel

Same night I was trying to be convinced that Carl Froch was a 12 rd fighter and he was not at his best until he reached the 9th or 10th round....Yet he had only been 12 2 times prior in his career..

BTW I know that because the words came straight to me from Froch's mouth...

I don't know about mainstream TV in the UK so I can't say if he is or isn't but for all the talk of him over the last few years in a dead SMW division and articles I read abt him even before Pascal I would have guessed different...BUT that then enforces the part of Froch and his people trying to use Taylor as a jump off to make him Mainstream

That doesn't make sense. You're saying Froch travelling doesn't prove he's willing to travel. Seriously, what the fuck?

Taylor was Froch's mandatory (when does the champion travel to the challenger?), the betting favourite and most "experts" picked him to win. So don't try and pass it off as some caluculated non-risk.

Of course fighting a former P4P undisputed middleweight champion will get you mainstream attention. How is that a negative? Unfortunately for Froch it didn't do much in the UK.

He could have eaisly done what Bute has - defend his belt against a bunch of c/b-level guys.

(Back to the point)

Bute's promoter told you about the England thing and then the arrogance and stipulations. Well he would say that. I'm sure Mick Hennessy has a different story.

From a neutrals perspective it's far harder to believe Bute was the willing traveller

I don't know if sometimes you are just ignorant or you just don't fucking pay attention to what you read...

Froch COULD HAVE MADE TAYLOR FIGHT HIM IN THE UK.....THEY DID NOT LOOK AT TAYLOR AS A BIG RISK SO THEY DECIDED IT WOULD BE A GREAT FIGHT TO MAKE HIS USA DEBUT WITH!!!!..

AGAIN THEY WERE USING THE FIGHT AS THE PERFECT TIME TO GET A BIGGER BROADCASTING AUDIENCE FOR FROCH.....

I PROMISE YOU THAT IF THE FIGHT WAS AGAINST A GUY THEY WERE NOT SURE ABOUT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE CAME HERE FOR THE FIGHT......

FROCH AND HIS PEOPLE WERE EMBARRASSED BECAUSE OF THE KNOCKDOWN....

IF YOU KNEW HALF AS MUCH ABOUT THE PROMOTERS THEMSELVES AND HALF AS MUCH ABOUT THE GOINGS ON BEHIND THE SCENES AS U THINK U DO BECAUSE OF WHAT U READ IN THE MEDIA U MIGHT NOT MAKE STUPID POST LIKE...

At no time did they think Froch was not going to beat Taylor....They counted on Taylor gassing, they counted on Taylor crumbling like he did in the Pavlik fight...They counted on the fact Taylor was abused in the 2 Pavlik fights, they counted on the fact before Pavlik he struggkled with 2 small LMW fighters and the fact he looked horrible against Lacy....They never expected Taylor to carry enough power to even knockdown Froch...Things did not go their way that is why they tried to pass off the whole...

"If you look at Carl Froch you know he is a 12 rd fighter who does his best work after the 9th".....Yet had only gone the distance 2 times prior....and has a KO% of over 75 at nthe time of the fight....They were trying to convince themselves more then anyone.....

That came from Mick Hennessy himself...But YOU would know that because you were at the press conference when me and 6 other writers 2 from the UK walked out...That was you somewhere in there no?....Were you the fat ass falling asleep in his coffee? OR were you the guy who could not get his camera to work?.....Because Mick came in first after Taylor and his people walked out started to speak then almost the whole room left but 7 writers some fat guy and a guy who could not get his camera to work....Y because of the SHIT Mick was trying to spout about Froch and his win over Taylor showing he is the best fighters from MW to CW and should be ranked #1 SMW and on the P4P list........Along with his future great bullshit.....BUT u knew all this yes?.......

You know the embarrassment they suffered by standing there with only his promoter trainer and family members he came to the US with long before the presser was done?....

Mainly because of the SHIT the high quality always honest Mick Hennessy was spouting....Making Don King and Frank Warren look like poster boys for truth and honesty.....

But please tell me more about Mick telling it how it is and more of Froch being the standout I will travel with my title because I am a CHAMPION stories of yours.....