After Wlad ko's Haye in the 12th, where will he stand on the All Time Greats list?

[Lefty]

Like Wladimir will even step into a ring with David Haye.

[amat]

lol lefty are you serious? HE SIGNED TO FIGHT HIM!!!!!!!!!!!

Regardless of why Haye backed out, he backed out. Wlad is definitely not scared of him, he mocked Haye to his face when he barely even knew who the guy was. It's the other way around. When someone talks as reckless as Haye, it's usually them who gets second thoughts about steppiing into the ring.

[Lefty]

lol lefty are you serious? HE SIGNED TO FIGHT HIM!!!!!!!!!!!

Regardless of why Haye backed out, he backed out. Wlad is definitely not scared of him, he mocked Haye to his face when he barely even knew who the guy was. It's the other way around. When someone talks as reckless as Haye, it's usually them who gets second thoughts about steppiing into the ring.

Signatures dont mean shiit. Until I see Haye in one corner and Mr Bitchsko in the other, only then will I be satisfied he'll fight him.

[amat]

So you actually believe that Haye scares Wlad to the point he won't step in the ring with him? This isn't a schoolyard fight lefty these are champion boxers, they're not scared to step in the ring.

[Lefty]

So you actually believe that Haye scares Wlad to the point he won't step in the ring with him? This isn't a schoolyard fight lefty these are champion boxers, they're not scared to step in the ring.

I hope he aint. But he's been running his mouth lately. All he has to do is man up and offer 50-50. Then the fights his simple.

[DaxxKahn]

The Klitschko brothers are good and I recognize they have skill, but I must admit, it has always pained me to see them beat up on smaller fighters then them (which is like 98% of their opponents).

I have always wanted to see them fight someone who would be about the same size and see how they fair. (Lewis was one of those rare occasions)
That's why, even though it wouldnt have been that great, I would have liked to see Valuev in there with a Klitschko...
Ah well.

UMMMMM...Kind of hard for them not to beat up on smaller guys considering they are 6'6" and 6'7" no?....

What a fight with Valuev?...a guy who was embarrassed by 6'3" David Haye....How many times could they beat on him?

Tony Thompson 6'5"

Ray Austin 6'6"

Williamson 6'4"

McCline 6'6"

WolfGramm 6'4"

So not as if he has a string of 5'11" guys on his resume...Most average abt 6'3"

[DaxxKahn]

lol lefty are you serious? HE SIGNED TO FIGHT HIM!!!!!!!!!!!

Regardless of why Haye backed out, he backed out. Wlad is definitely not scared of him, he mocked Haye to his face when he barely even knew who the guy was. It's the other way around. When someone talks as reckless as Haye, it's usually them who gets second thoughts about steppiing into the ring.

I had a name or sig bet w lefty for 1 yr on that fight...After Haye bitched out the name Leftylee seemed top fade away with Hayes bravado...

Coincidence or Phenomenon

[generalbulldog]

For some reason I believe if this fight happens it could be another Cooney-Holmes. You know where an established reigning HW champion gives a beat down to what a lot of people at that time considered to be a premier contender that was really overhyped, minus the racial overtones of course.

[Mo Frazier]

Wlad is one of the most boring Heavyweights of all time. His record sucks and he has been battered by 3 nobodies!

54-3 sucks? Surely you kid? So, I guess you would go 57-0, no?

[killersheep]

Wlad is one of the most boring Heavyweights of all time. His record sucks and he has been battered by 3 nobodies!

Name two heavyweights that are still active TODAY with better records.

[Boxer4life]

unfortunatley for them, their competition sucks, i would love to see them against a prime mike or prime lewis

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

unfortunatley for them, their competition sucks, i would love to see them against a prime mike or prime lewis

But what people tend to forget is time erases that... The same can be said for Joe Louis's "bum of the month club" and Rocky Marciano's competition... Yet there they are, all time greats... and rightfully so. You can't blame a fighter for competition levels.

Now if Tye Fields became heavyweight champion... Then I'd worry.

[match]

What's the difference between Wlad and Zab Judah?







.....Judah hasn't been knocked down nearly as many times. To answer the original question, Wlad will stand on the outside looking in

[BIG H]

Wlad is one of the most boring Heavyweights of all time. His record sucks and he has been battered by 3 nobodies!

54-3 sucks? Surely you kid? So, I guess you would go 57-0, no?

I don't care if he has fought 100 times, his resume sucks. It's not his fault that this is one of the weakest era's in Heavyweight history, but it's still a fact

Best Wins

Chris Byrd, Haism Rahman, Sam Pter

Stopped by

Corrie Who?
Ross Who?
Lamont Who?


In the context of all time greats (which is what the thread is about) his record sucks!

[BIG H]

Wlad is one of the most boring Heavyweights of all time. His record sucks and he has been battered by 3 nobodies!

Name two heavyweights that are still active TODAY with better records.

What's that got do with anything. The thread is about whether he is an ATG and as explained in the post directly above, in that context his record sucks balls!