Pavlik - Martinez/Bute - Miranda fight talk

[The Fightfan]

Congrats to the new champ!

I may be in the minority(which is fine) but I thought in the rounds prior to the cut Pavlik was starting to figure him out. He was starting to make Sergio miss wildly and frequently out jabbing him. I thought Pavlik was on his way to eeking out a close points win...maybe a disputed decision to some. Once he got cut, he just broke down like Juan Diaz.

Speaking of Diaz's. Where the hell was Pavlik's cutman Miguel Diaz?


What the hell was Miranda thinking Before the knockout, I thought he looked helluva lot better technically than he has in the past. In retrospect his handlers should have probably waited for another shot at Stieglitz.

Totally agree. Once he was cut, he didn't really continue. He said as much in the post fight presser. He said that he couldn't see out of his right side. In my opinion, Pavlik needs a new trainer.

How tremendous did Bute look? Geez. That upper cut was vicious.

In total agreement with Rantacrat. I was there for the fight in A.C. and it seemed that Kelly was taking the fight over until the ninth round and the cut happened. Later I watched it on T.V. and you can hear him say as soon as the round was over"I can't see shit" and Loew spews out "don't f**king say that" yes I agree 110% with the new trainer theory. Jack Loew is a horrible trainer and didn't even know what to tell his man except"you have to pressure this kid". For christ's sake the cutman should be shot. An absolute disgrace that he couldn't get the cut to stop bleeding even just a little bit. I would be asking Emanuel Steward and someone like Joe Souza in the corner if I were Pavlik.

I don't believe however that Pavlik is done or is a fabricated champ as someone had mentioned. I just think he doesn't belong in the 160 lbs class anymore. I mean he completely dehydrated himself to make 160 and comes in at 178 a day later. That is way too much weight to quickly. I mean shit think about it 18lbs in 24 hours That's f**king insane.He belong's in the super middleweight's but Pavlik will probably get the rematch at 160 and I still think he can beat Martinez late in that fight.

Bute I really don't even need to comment on. Right now the man is clearly the best super middleweight and I don't think anyone in the super six can beat him.