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    Default Re: Why Carl Froch is the greatest super middleweight of this generation

    Hammer, I like Froch, and really agreed with your post in the Froch Kessler thread, but Froch has way more to do to prove he's the best Supermidddleweight around, and that he'll struggle to do. I have a feeling he lacks too many elements to be the best, but I guess thats what this super six tournament is there to do. The good thing for Froch is that at the moment, the only guy really looking good in the Super Six is Andre Ward, and even he makes mistakes and can be hit and Froch has the power to trouble anyone. Kessler and AA no longer look World Class IMO and Dirrell has a way to go to prove that he's at that level. Outside of the tourney, as Froch has previosuly stated, Bute needs to grow some balls. If he was up for proving hes the best, he wouldhave been in the tournament and not fighting two middleweights in Andrade and Miranda.

    Cutting it short, Froch has the opportunity to prove himself, and its game on and open I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by themacmagician View Post
    Hammer, I like Froch, and really agreed with your post in the Froch Kessler thread, but Froch has way more to do to prove he's the best Supermidddleweight around, and that he'll struggle to do. I have a feeling he lacks too many elements to be the best, but I guess thats what this super six tournament is there to do. The good thing for Froch is that at the moment, the only guy really looking good in the Super Six is Andre Ward, and even he makes mistakes and can be hit and Froch has the power to trouble anyone. Kessler and AA no longer look World Class IMO and Dirrell has a way to go to prove that he's at that level. Outside of the tourney, as Froch has previosuly stated, Bute needs to grow some balls. If he was up for proving hes the best, he wouldhave been in the tournament and not fighting two middleweights in Andrade and Miranda.

    Ward butted his way through mikkel kessler, froch wont have that luxury on saturday night

    Ive seen very little from andre ward to suggest he even gives froch a tough fight
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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by themacmagician View Post
    Hammer, I like Froch, and really agreed with your post in the Froch Kessler thread, but Froch has way more to do to prove he's the best Supermidddleweight around, and that he'll struggle to do. I have a feeling he lacks too many elements to be the best, but I guess thats what this super six tournament is there to do. The good thing for Froch is that at the moment, the only guy really looking good in the Super Six is Andre Ward, and even he makes mistakes and can be hit and Froch has the power to trouble anyone. Kessler and AA no longer look World Class IMO and Dirrell has a way to go to prove that he's at that level. Outside of the tourney, as Froch has previosuly stated, Bute needs to grow some balls. If he was up for proving hes the best, he wouldhave been in the tournament and not fighting two middleweights in Andrade and Miranda.

    Ward butted his way through mikkel kessler, froch wont have that luxury on saturday night

    Ive seen very little from andre ward to suggest he even gives froch a tough fight
    I guess that there is a decent chance we'll see....

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    Im going with Lucian Bute as the best, i've been a fan of his for awhile. And you don't normally get many slick fighters who can hit hard either.

    Lucian Bute grow some balls ? he couldn't join the Super Six tournament thats well documented. And also because he had unfinished business vs Librado Andrade. And plus because they needed another American fighter in the tournament.

    Lastly how the hell is Librado Andrade a Middleweight ? he's a big Super Middleweight and could easily be a Light Heavyweight, he's never been a Middleweight.

    And your boy Carl Froch was handed a gift, when he was atleast beat by 3 rounds by Andre Dirrell. He will be found out soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Im going with Lucian Bute as the best, i've been a fan of his for awhile. And you don't normally get many slick fighters who can hit hard either.

    Bute gets p*wned by everyone in the super6 but green

    Librado andrade beat him for peets sake
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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
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    Im going with Lucian Bute as the best, i've been a fan of his for awhile. And you don't normally get many slick fighters who can hit hard either.

    Bute gets p*wned by everyone in the super6 but green

    Librado andrade beat him for peets sake
    No he didn't he got caught late in a fight he mostly dominated, and got up by the count of 8. When the round was already over, even if the ref wouldn't of told.

    Librado Andrade to go back to the neutral corner, the round was over at that point so it didn't matter. All Lucian Bute had to do was stand up and respond to the ref which he did.

    Andre Dirrell beat your boy though, and your boy was also pushd to his limit. By Brian Magee for crying out loud, he will be found out soon. Im just amazed he's got this far without a loss yet.

    And Lucian Bute will destroy Carl Froch, and i'll bet with you or anyone regarding that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Im going with Lucian Bute as the best, i've been a fan of his for awhile. And you don't normally get many slick fighters who can hit hard either.

    Bute gets p*wned by everyone in the super6 but green

    Librado andrade beat him for peets sake
    And Dirrell beat Froch, what's your point?

    I'm totally gonna bump this after the S6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Im going with Lucian Bute as the best, i've been a fan of his for awhile. And you don't normally get many slick fighters who can hit hard either.

    Bute gets p*wned by everyone in the super6 but green

    Librado andrade beat him for peets sake
    And Dirrell beat Froch, what's your point?

    I'm totally gonna bump this after the S6.

    Andrade had bute down on his ass for 30 seconds before the ref finally started counting, by the time the bell had gone bute had been down for almost a minute

    care to explain to me how that can compare in any manner to froch-dirrell??
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    Bute gets p*wned by everyone in the super6 but green

    Librado andrade beat him for peets sake
    And Dirrell beat Froch, what's your point?

    I'm totally gonna bump this after the S6.

    Andrade had bute down on his ass for 30 seconds before the ref finally started counting, by the time the bell had gone bute had been down for almost a minute

    care to explain to me how that can compare in any manner to froch-dirrell??
    You must be joking actually count how long, it took Lucian Bute to get up. It was 8 secodns he beat the count, then the ref told Librado Andrade to go in the neutral corner.

    But even if he hadn't of, it wouldn't of mattered because the round was over when he went down. Its just you can't be saved in the final round, which is why the ref firstly had to decide whether or not to let Lucian Bute continue.

    Your boy just plainly got a gift decision, and lost by atleast 3 rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
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    Bute gets p*wned by everyone in the super6 but green

    Librado andrade beat him for peets sake
    And Dirrell beat Froch, what's your point?

    I'm totally gonna bump this after the S6.

    Andrade had bute down on his ass for 30 seconds before the ref finally started counting, by the time the bell had gone bute had been down for almost a minute

    care to explain to me how that can compare in any manner to froch-dirrell??
    30 seconds? really? FAIL

    Dirrell beat Froch period. The whole justification for Froch winning was "he was coming forward" He wasn't landing shit, he wasn't throwing shit, he hadn't a clue of what to do. As long as he was walking forward though he grabs the cards. I think Fenster put it best when he stated that the judges say Dirrell falling all over the place and probably held it against him even though he was clearly winning the rounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post


    Bute gets p*wned by everyone in the super6 but green

    Librado andrade beat him for peets sake
    And Dirrell beat Froch, what's your point?

    I'm totally gonna bump this after the S6.

    Andrade had bute down on his ass for 30 seconds before the ref finally started counting, by the time the bell had gone bute had been down for almost a minute

    care to explain to me how that can compare in any manner to froch-dirrell??
    Andrade had Bute out on his feet and beaten but was robbed of a win and a world title by shady hometown officiating.

    Dirrell outboxed & eventually outslugged Froch by a wide margin but was robbed of a win and a world title by shady hometown officiating.

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    9) He came from a really rough upbringing too, they actually made him go to public school. He had to protect his bike often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Im going with Lucian Bute as the best, i've been a fan of his for awhile. And you don't normally get many slick fighters who can hit hard either.

    Bute gets p*wned by everyone in the super6 but green

    Librado andrade beat him for peets sake
    Perfect example of some one going off somebodies else opinion and not watching the fight themselves. Watch the fukking fight, moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Im going with Lucian Bute as the best, i've been a fan of his for awhile. And you don't normally get many slick fighters who can hit hard either.

    Lucian Bute grow some balls ? he couldn't join the Super Six tournament thats well documented. And also because he had unfinished business vs Librado Andrade. And plus because they needed another American fighter in the tournament.

    Lastly how the hell is Librado Andrade a Middleweight ? he's a big Super Middleweight and could easily be a Light Heavyweight, he's never been a Middleweight.

    And your boy Carl Froch was handed a gift, when he was atleast beat by 3 rounds by Andre Dirrell. He will be found out soon.
    Aplogies man, gettin my shit mixed trying to type quick at work so no one clocks me doin it.

    Hell, Froch is certainly not my boy. Don't be getting confused here, i'm no pom pom carrier for Froch. He's slow and quite unco-ordinated at times, and yes he will be found out no doubt, but not by Kessler and certainly not in an easy manner by any of the other tournament fighters, and definately not Bute. If Bute is as good as suggested, I don't care what plan he had, he should have wanted to be in the Super Six, to turn down such an opportunity, 3 big fights and the possibility of proving your the best, just for a fight with Andrade and then Miranda. No way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themacmagician View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Im going with Lucian Bute as the best, i've been a fan of his for awhile. And you don't normally get many slick fighters who can hit hard either.

    Lucian Bute grow some balls ? he couldn't join the Super Six tournament thats well documented. And also because he had unfinished business vs Librado Andrade. And plus because they needed another American fighter in the tournament.

    Lastly how the hell is Librado Andrade a Middleweight ? he's a big Super Middleweight and could easily be a Light Heavyweight, he's never been a Middleweight.

    And your boy Carl Froch was handed a gift, when he was atleast beat by 3 rounds by Andre Dirrell. He will be found out soon.
    Aplogies man, gettin my shit mixed trying to type quick at work so no one clocks me doin it.

    Hell, Froch is certainly not my boy. Don't be getting confused here, i'm no pom pom carrier for Froch. He's slow and quite unco-ordinated at times, and yes he will be found out no doubt, but not by Kessler and certainly not in an easy manner by any of the other tournament fighters, and definately not Bute. If Bute is as good as suggested, I don't care what plan he had, he should have wanted to be in the Super Six, to turn down such an opportunity, 3 big fights and the possibility of proving your the best, just for a fight with Andrade and then Miranda. No way.
    He couldn't be in the Super Six im sure Killersheep will explain to you, there was actual reason's he couldn't be in it. Plus they needed a American fighter, and also its the best thing for Lucian Bute he didn't go in it. Because he beat Librado Andrade in good fashion in the rematch, now a fight between him and the Super Six winner will be huge.

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