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    Default Re: Ryan Rhodes is furious with the WBC

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by koppas View Post
    From Boxing News, regarding Manny vs Tony for the WBC strap:

    "It's pretty much disgusting. Margarito gets smashed at welterweight, suspended for nine months, has one fight back - doesn't look that good - and goes straight in at No. 2 and get's a title shot. I tell you what, its not what you know it's who you know isn't it? Obviously it's a massive fight but I'm at No. 2 or No. 3 in the WBC ratings and of all a sudden I am getting bypassed. It's not nice to see".

    I feel for him and he has a valid point. To be perfectly honest, I do sometimes get confused with the rankings and how people can just JUMP to the No. 1 and No. 2 contender places like these two have despite not having fought at this weight or having fought at the weight for a while.

    Can someone explain to me how Pac can just jump up a weight and fight for the vacant title - despite the fact someone like Ryan Rhodes, who has done very well as of late, doesn't even get a look in. This is the side of boxing that just doesn't make sense to me and, like everyone else, irritates me.
    Simple. Rhodes is garbage. Nobody gives a fuck about him
    And Margarito is not? The guy is a dirty cheat and needs to be hounded out of the sport, not given a big payday after a nothing fight. Every licensing organisation has its problems, and the WBC as many as everyone else.

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    Default Re: Ryan Rhodes is furious with the WBC

    I think 99.99999999% of the boxing world and fans would rather see Manny fight Margarito than Ryan Rhodes.

    Whether he's a cheat a not he's still a big name, whereas Ryan Rhodes is just a little mediocre domestic level fighter who might just be good enough to be competitive with Matthew Hatton.

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    Default Re: Ryan Rhodes is furious with the WBC

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I think 99.99999999% of the boxing world and fans would rather see Manny fight Margarito than Ryan Rhodes.

    Whether he's a cheat a not he's still a big name, whereas Ryan Rhodes is just a little mediocre domestic level fighter who might just be good enough to be competitive with Matthew Hatton.
    That isn't the point though. The point is why should Margarito and Pac fight for the WBC title, leapfrogging everyone else who's goal it is to win that strap. I know that's boxing for yo but it sucks.

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    Default Re: Ryan Rhodes is furious with the WBC

    Quote Originally Posted by koppas View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I think 99.99999999% of the boxing world and fans would rather see Manny fight Margarito than Ryan Rhodes.

    Whether he's a cheat a not he's still a big name, whereas Ryan Rhodes is just a little mediocre domestic level fighter who might just be good enough to be competitive with Matthew Hatton.
    That isn't the point though. The point is why should Margarito and Pac fight for the WBC title, leapfrogging everyone else who's goal it is to win that strap. I know that's boxing for yo but it sucks.

    Well because Manny is arguably the greatest and most decorated active fighter in the world, and Margarito is a former three time welterweight world champion.

    One is a boxing superstar, the other one of boxing's most controversial figures. And Ryan Rhodes is......well a little bald northerner with a mediocre record.

    Beaurocracy would give Ryan Rhodes a shot a title, the fans, common sense and thankfully the paymasters will let us see a real exciting fight between Manny and Margo.

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    Default Re: Ryan Rhodes is furious with the WBC

    Ryan Rhodes is irrelevant, it's the whole fact that Manny just 'steps up' into the light middleweight division and is given an automatic title shot.

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    Default Re: Ryan Rhodes is furious with the WBC

    Quote Originally Posted by koppas View Post
    Ryan Rhodes is irrelevant, it's the whole fact that Manny just 'steps up' into the light middleweight division and is given an automatic title shot.
    same shit goes for Haye when he went up and got an undeserved WBA HW title shot

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    Default Re: Ryan Rhodes is furious with the WBC

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by koppas View Post
    Ryan Rhodes is irrelevant, it's the whole fact that Manny just 'steps up' into the light middleweight division and is given an automatic title shot.
    same shit goes for Haye when he went up and got an undeserved WBA HW title shot
    Good point.

    Ok well if we're going to bring that in the argument, Manny should've had at least one fight at light middleweight before the title shot. Like Haye had to have one fight at heavyweight - albeit against Monte Barrett.

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    Default Re: Ryan Rhodes is furious with the WBC

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by koppas View Post
    Ryan Rhodes is irrelevant, it's the whole fact that Manny just 'steps up' into the light middleweight division and is given an automatic title shot.
    same shit goes for Haye when he went up and got an undeserved WBA HW title shot

    It is actually not: Haye was given a title shot by the champion; but in this case, the title is vacant, and the wbc is supposed to pick #1 and #2 to fight. No Manny Pacquio vs who ever he decides to fight.

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    Default Re: Ryan Rhodes is furious with the WBC

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by koppas View Post
    Ryan Rhodes is irrelevant, it's the whole fact that Manny just 'steps up' into the light middleweight division and is given an automatic title shot.
    same shit goes for Haye when he went up and got an undeserved WBA HW title shot
    I'm not sure that's a very good comparison at all. Haye won, and the match up was intriguing, and it sold a ton of tickets. Who would you rather have fought for the belt?

    Dominick Guinn?
    Tua?
    Ibragimov?
    "Floyd needs to inject Xylocaine into his balls to gain the courage to fight Pacquiao."

    - and I quote from some random guy on the internet

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    Default Re: Ryan Rhodes is furious with the WBC

    Quote Originally Posted by koppas View Post
    Ryan Rhodes is irrelevant, it's the whole fact that Manny just 'steps up' into the light middleweight division and is given an automatic title shot.
    I just don't get this at all. Who is more deserving of a world title shot than a guy who has won world titles in more weight classes than any other fighter in history?

    Manny is already a top 20, maybe top 10 p4p fighter of ALL TIME, of course he should get priority in a title shot over mediocre nobodies like Ryan Rhodes.

    Boxing is a business, and it's also entertainment. We, the fans (most of us) want to see the biggest and best fights being made. Sadly, for Manny that would be Floyd, but as that clearly isn't happening any time soon, I'm sure as hell excited to see if he can move yet another weight class and beat a guy with a massive size and reach advantage on hi,

    Considering Margarito also KO'd Cotto and beat down Clottey, Manny's last two opponents, this makes for an intriguing matchup imo.

    Letting it be for a world title belt is just a victory for commonsense over beaurocratic nonsense.

    Boxing should be about the best fighting the best. Although Margarito isn't the best I'd sure rather have him and Manny fighting for the light middle weight title than Rhodes and Powell for example.

    It's a big fight.

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    Default Re: Ryan Rhodes is furious with the WBC

    It just confirms that the titles don't actaully mean shit.

    The only fair solution would have been if Manny and Margarito didn't fight for that title, especially as it looks like it will be under a catch weight anyway (don't even get me started on that subject........)

    They should still fight each other as that is what everyone wants to now see, but it shouldn't be for a title, especially when they aren't even fighting at the correct weight.

    Manny would destroy Rhodes inside a couple of rounds and it would be no fun for anyone. But I do agree it's harsh that the rankings mean shit.

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    Default Re: Ryan Rhodes is furious with the WBC

    Quote Originally Posted by superheavyrhun View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by koppas View Post
    From Boxing News, regarding Manny vs Tony for the WBC strap:

    "It's pretty much disgusting. Margarito gets smashed at welterweight, suspended for nine months, has one fight back - doesn't look that good - and goes straight in at No. 2 and get's a title shot. I tell you what, its not what you know it's who you know isn't it? Obviously it's a massive fight but I'm at No. 2 or No. 3 in the WBC ratings and of all a sudden I am getting bypassed. It's not nice to see".

    I feel for him and he has a valid point. To be perfectly honest, I do sometimes get confused with the rankings and how people can just JUMP to the No. 1 and No. 2 contender places like these two have despite not having fought at this weight or having fought at the weight for a while.

    Can someone explain to me how Pac can just jump up a weight and fight for the vacant title - despite the fact someone like Ryan Rhodes, who has done very well as of late, doesn't even get a look in. This is the side of boxing that just doesn't make sense to me and, like everyone else, irritates me.
    Simple. Rhodes is garbage. Nobody gives a fuck about him
    And Margarito is not? The guy is a dirty cheat and needs to be hounded out of the sport, not given a big payday after a nothing fight. Every licensing organisation has its problems, and the WBC as many as everyone else.
    Ask Rhodes mother what she rather watch Pacquiao-Margarito or Pacquiao-Rhodes. I have no doubt she picks Pacquiao-Margarito. Money is what runs boxing. And facts are Pacquiao-Margarito brings in 3 times the money Pacquiao-Rhodes does.

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