Ryan Rhodes is furious with the WBC

[boxingbantz]

I think 99.99999999% of the boxing world and fans would rather see Manny fight Margarito than Ryan Rhodes.

Whether he's a cheat a not he's still a big name, whereas Ryan Rhodes is just a little mediocre domestic level fighter who might just be good enough to be competitive with Matthew Hatton.

That isn't the point though. The point is why should Margarito and Pac fight for the WBC title, leapfrogging everyone else who's goal it is to win that strap. I know that's boxing for yo but it sucks.

[Kev]

I think 99.99999999% of the boxing world and fans would rather see Manny fight Margarito than Ryan Rhodes.

Whether he's a cheat a not he's still a big name, whereas Ryan Rhodes is just a little mediocre domestic level fighter who might just be good enough to be competitive with Matthew Hatton.

That isn't the point though. The point is why should Margarito and Pac fight for the WBC title, leapfrogging everyone else who's goal it is to win that strap. I know that's boxing for yo but it sucks.

Well because Manny is arguably the greatest and most decorated active fighter in the world, and Margarito is a former three time welterweight world champion.

One is a boxing superstar, the other one of boxing's most controversial figures. And Ryan Rhodes is......well a little bald northerner with a mediocre record.

Beaurocracy would give Ryan Rhodes a shot a title, the fans, common sense and thankfully the paymasters will let us see a real exciting fight between Manny and Margo.

[boxingbantz]

Ryan Rhodes is irrelevant, it's the whole fact that Manny just 'steps up' into the light middleweight division and is given an automatic title shot.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Ryan Rhodes is irrelevant, it's the whole fact that Manny just 'steps up' into the light middleweight division and is given an automatic title shot.

same shit goes for Haye when he went up and got an undeserved WBA HW title shot

[boxingbantz]

Ryan Rhodes is irrelevant, it's the whole fact that Manny just 'steps up' into the light middleweight division and is given an automatic title shot.

same shit goes for Haye when he went up and got an undeserved WBA HW title shot

Good point.

Ok well if we're going to bring that in the argument, Manny should've had at least one fight at light middleweight before the title shot. Like Haye had to have one fight at heavyweight - albeit against Monte Barrett.

[UKPH]

Ryan Rhodes is irrelevant, it's the whole fact that Manny just 'steps up' into the light middleweight division and is given an automatic title shot.

same shit goes for Haye when he went up and got an undeserved WBA HW title shot

Good point.

Ok well if we're going to bring that in the argument, Manny should've had at least one fight at light middleweight before the title shot. Like Haye had to have one fight at heavyweight - albeit against Monte Barrett.

I guess its automatic ex. if your a champion especially like Pac with his shitty 147 WBC Diamond belt some organization called a SuperChamp (WBO) he can jump for another up/down weight class in a championship fight caliber without exception.

[Lance Uppercut]

Ryan Rhodes is irrelevant, it's the whole fact that Manny just 'steps up' into the light middleweight division and is given an automatic title shot.

same shit goes for Haye when he went up and got an undeserved WBA HW title shot

It is actually not: Haye was given a title shot by the champion; but in this case, the title is vacant, and the wbc is supposed to pick #1 and #2 to fight. No Manny Pacquio vs who ever he decides to fight.

[JonnyFolds]

Ryan Rhodes is irrelevant, it's the whole fact that Manny just 'steps up' into the light middleweight division and is given an automatic title shot.

same shit goes for Haye when he went up and got an undeserved WBA HW title shot

I'm not sure that's a very good comparison at all. Haye won, and the match up was intriguing, and it sold a ton of tickets. Who would you rather have fought for the belt?

Dominick Guinn?
Tua?
Ibragimov?

[Kev]

Ryan Rhodes is irrelevant, it's the whole fact that Manny just 'steps up' into the light middleweight division and is given an automatic title shot.

I just don't get this at all. Who is more deserving of a world title shot than a guy who has won world titles in more weight classes than any other fighter in history?

Manny is already a top 20, maybe top 10 p4p fighter of ALL TIME, of course he should get priority in a title shot over mediocre nobodies like Ryan Rhodes.

Boxing is a business, and it's also entertainment. We, the fans (most of us) want to see the biggest and best fights being made. Sadly, for Manny that would be Floyd, but as that clearly isn't happening any time soon, I'm sure as hell excited to see if he can move yet another weight class and beat a guy with a massive size and reach advantage on hi,

Considering Margarito also KO'd Cotto and beat down Clottey, Manny's last two opponents, this makes for an intriguing matchup imo.

Letting it be for a world title belt is just a victory for commonsense over beaurocratic nonsense.

Boxing should be about the best fighting the best. Although Margarito isn't the best I'd sure rather have him and Manny fighting for the light middle weight title than Rhodes and Powell for example.

It's a big fight.

[0james0]

It just confirms that the titles don't actaully mean shit.

The only fair solution would have been if Manny and Margarito didn't fight for that title, especially as it looks like it will be under a catch weight anyway (don't even get me started on that subject........)

They should still fight each other as that is what everyone wants to now see, but it shouldn't be for a title, especially when they aren't even fighting at the correct weight.

Manny would destroy Rhodes inside a couple of rounds and it would be no fun for anyone. But I do agree it's harsh that the rankings mean shit.

[boxingbantz]

It just confirms that the titles don't actaully mean shit.

The only fair solution would have been if Manny and Margarito didn't fight for that title, especially as it looks like it will be under a catch weight anyway (don't even get me started on that subject........)

They should still fight each other as that is what everyone wants to now see, but it shouldn't be for a title, especially when they aren't even fighting at the correct weight.

Manny would destroy Rhodes inside a couple of rounds and it would be no fun for anyone. But I do agree it's harsh that the rankings mean shit.

This is my point. I agree with everything you said bilbo, my point was the ranking don't mean shit if people can just jump others when they don't even fight in that weight. At least make Pac fight at 154 if he wants to fight for the strap, too. Obviously I don't wanna see Pac vs Rhodes as it would be over within one, if not, two rounds.

[Kirkland Laing]

Rhodes knows how the boxing business works, he's not furious at all. He's only mentioning himself in relation to those guys so that the press write about him in relation to those guys. It's all just publicity like all the 140 pounders on Twitter.

[Kev]

It just confirms that the titles don't actaully mean shit.

The only fair solution would have been if Manny and Margarito didn't fight for that title, especially as it looks like it will be under a catch weight anyway (don't even get me started on that subject........)

They should still fight each other as that is what everyone wants to now see, but it shouldn't be for a title, especially when they aren't even fighting at the correct weight.

Manny would destroy Rhodes inside a couple of rounds and it would be no fun for anyone. But I do agree it's harsh that the rankings mean shit.

This is my point. I agree with everything you said bilbo, my point was the ranking don't mean shit if people can just jump others when they don't even fight in that weight. At least make Pac fight at 154 if he wants to fight for the strap, too. Obviously I don't wanna see Pac vs Rhodes as it would be over within one, if not, two rounds.

I don't really agree here. The point is the rankings were ok without Manny in the division. Take Manny out and the rankings can be useful to get legitimate contenders for the title. But when a world superstar enters the division clearly his acomplishments eclipse everything the rest have done so he should jump the queue imo. If not then any title fight for that belt would be a farce as he'd clearly smack the shit out of whoever won.

So in this case Manny and Margarito (himself a three time welterweight champ) are absolutely the right guys to be fighting for this title. After they have had their bout and presumabely Manny vacates, the rankings will be useful again.

We should never let beaurocracy interfere with the best fights being made and Manny is far far far more deserving of a title shot than Rhodes or anyone else. To have him in the weight class and somebody else fighting for the title of world champ is clearly absurd.