yet he was the first 3 time heavyweight champion, had wins over Liston, Cooper, Patterson, Moore, Chuvalo, Terrell, Quarry, Bonavena, Frazier, Ellis, Norton, Foreman, Lyle, Shavers, and Spinks, he avenged every loss except those against Holmes and Berbick which came when he was completely shot and already suffering from symptoms of Parkinsons
overrarted my ass
Is this in jest? I do really hope so.... otherwise the consequence is unthinkable for quite a few...maybe in hundreds of millions boxing aficionados worldwide stands accused for their consensus of massively over-rating an "entertainer", masquerading as one of the greatest boxers of all time, in Muhammad Ali!he was great for the sport, and fantastic entertainment inside and outside the ring but massively overrated in terms of his ability
My own thoughts go something like this..
Lennox poses a sizeable problem to George simply due to his accuracy and power. BUT Lewis had a lot of bad habits too, especially before being KO'ed. Young George can't box worth a piss, but he can hit like a Sherman tank. Lewis liked to stand up tall and he didn't fancy running. Young George has a serious shot of connecting with something barbaric and savagely ending Lewis's night.
Old George probably gets beat up pretty bad against a prime Lewis. There's always the one-shot wonder, ala Moorer/Foreman scenario, but I give that about a 5% chance of playing out. Dumb luck really.
Vitali I think has not been fairly represented in this matchup. Versus the old comebacking George, I see this a landslide victory for Vitali. Too tall, too long, and knows how to fight tall and keep guys at the end of his jab. George gasses and loses a UD. That said, I don't think Vitali stops him, just beats him.
The younger George versus Vitali.... well now thats a humdinger. I've never even seen Vitali hurt, but you gotta imagine the fella to do it is the 70's version that blasted Joe and Kenny into the stratosphere. An older, ill-trained Lewis smacked Vitali with some hellacious shots and Vit took them like a champ, but call me crazy, Lennox's big right isn't quite what the Houston hooker's was back then. Could Vitali have been smart enough to rope-a-dope and be patient and paw and jab and wait for George to gas? Maybe. Good chance of it, I think. But if he couldn't.... there's the guy that knocks Vitali out cold.
For the love of God, I want to see the Lewis/Klitschko fight finished. Oh but it WAS finished, Balboa, didnt you see? It got stopped on cuts! Not. Acceptable.
Hey, yo Tommy, I didn't hear no bell.
Rocky Balboa
Also,
I see the Ali song and dance going now. I hated Ali for what he did to my George, and I hated his loud mouth and I hated him beating Joe twice and I hated his Mayweather-ish bullsh*t.
But.....
He is, hands down, the greatest heavyweight of all time. He. Had. It. ALL.
Hey, yo Tommy, I didn't hear no bell.
Rocky Balboa
"You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"
yep i agree he was one of the greatest boxers of all time, and posibly up until his time in history was the best HW of all time
things move on tho, athletes get bigger and stronger and better
ali at his best wouldnt have beaten lewis at his best
the brazil football team of 1970 (considered the best of all time) wouldnt have beaten the brazil football team of 2010
thing is Ali beat the shit out of Cooper before he ever fought for a world title, unlike Haye who already won titles at Cruiser and now has a trinket at HW, sorry there's not excuse for Haye to fight Harrison, as hard as you try
no matter which way you spin it Muhammad Ali shits all over any recent HW's accomplishments or record
Last edited by ElTerribleMorales; 10-19-2010 at 08:12 PM.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
I think Lewis could out point Prime George but Vitali could not.
Old George would never have stepped in the ring with either fighter, he was a marketing gimmick by then.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
About Foreman being too small for Lewis.
Prime Briggs around 6'4" 225-230 in the 90s managed to seriously rock Lewis in their fight and Oliver McCall who was around 6'2" and around 225-230 ko Lewis, not to mentioned Rahman who was also 6'2" and around 230 managed to ko Lewis also.
I guess they weren't too small eh? But Prime George at 6'3 and around 220-230 is considered to be too small without a chance. Laughable.
Briggs had serious hand speed you muppet
And regarding the KO's, well you saw what happend when Lewis brought his A game.
Thats what it pretty much all boils down to. What version of each guy we are talking about.
Both guys on their best nights? Lewis most of the time IMO.
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