calzaghe v hopkins

[Fenster]

Hopkins "clean effective punching" is exaggerated by his lack of success in the fight.

Look at these very revealing statistics from Hopkins last eight fights. Apart from the fact that Calzaghe hit Hopkins MORE times than any other fighter in history (I know, all those punches don't count ), the stats highlight that Hopkins had more trouble effectively hitting Calzaghe than any other fighter he faced.

Hopkins - 130/317, (35%) Taylor - 124 of 391, (32%)
Hopkins - 133/417, (32%) Tarver - 78/437, (18%)
Hopkins - 152/640, (24%) Wright - 167/618 (27%)
Hopkins - 127/468, (27%) Calzaghe - 232/707 (33%)
Hopkins - 172/530, (32% ) Pavlik - 108/463 (23%)
Hopkins - 205/497 (41%) Ornelas - 113/508 (22%)
Hopkins - 185/526 (35%) Jones - 82/274 (30%)
Hopkins - 171/445 (38%) Pascal - 105/353 (29%)

Cazlaghe simply stopped Hopkins game. He should surely get credit for that? And it obviously highlights why the MAJORITY saw Calzaghe win the fight

no way joe landed 232 in that fight noway........ like i've siad before its more 150...170 if i count someother pity patters.......look there are plenty of guys here who are or where boxer......me being one of them, as a ex fighter i'm telling you 232 is not the total....compubox is someone in the crowd with a counter in there hand clicking it everytime they think a punch is thrown.....that night must have been a bad night for who ever counted joes landed punches.....theres a big diff to punching and touching....that night joe touched hopkins plenty lol but punched him 155ish

So ex-fighters can count better than normal humans? Tell me this then, as an expert ex-fighter, would you have landed 232, sorry i mean 170 punches on Hopkins, which is still MORE than any other fighter?

Your superior ex-fighter counting ability still makes Calzaghe more successful than anyone else. And doesn't change the fact that Hopkins found Calzaghe harder to hit than anyone else. Fact.

i was in no way pulling rank as a ex boxer or suggesting i no better then anyone else...the truth is there are people who have had over 100 bouts as ama and pro who know very little and those who've never even put a pair of gloves on that are experts......my point was there is a big difference in hitting someone and touching.......i can say to you that you have to add anothe 40 punches connected on calzaghe..everytime b-hop held, grabbed him in made contact did he not so thats a hit....no.....i'm saying i would not have credited joe with 70-75 of those punches because they werent punches, if you drop that many shots then hopkins clearly wins as its only the 232 that argues in joes favour in many people eyes.....i can touch or poke with my little finger at you 100 times and you wont class it a punch....if someone hits you once you know about it........watch the fight again and then say that 232 is the total.........the person who did the counting that night must have been trigger happy on the button to class that many punches thats all a ment........once again sorry if it was taken wrong the ex boxers comment it was ment to emply no such thing

I suppose all of those 127 punches from Hopkins were clean, effective earth shudderers, right?

And Hopkins defense was wonderful, unlike Calzaghe who deserves no credit whatsoever for making it so awkward for Hopkins to hit him (as my figures show - less than any other fighter Hopkins had fought in years).

And, of course, Hopkin's superior ring generalship was clear for everyone to see, apart from when Cazlaghe put him under so much pressure he resorted to begging the ref for breathers and trying to get the totally ineffective slapper disqualified.

To be honest - it's quite surprising Hopkins ever wasted his time challenging such an inferior opponent. Fact.

[NUCLEAR BULL]

Hopkins "clean effective punching" is exaggerated by his lack of success in the fight.

Look at these very revealing statistics from Hopkins last eight fights. Apart from the fact that Calzaghe hit Hopkins MORE times than any other fighter in history (I know, all those punches don't count ), the stats highlight that Hopkins had more trouble effectively hitting Calzaghe than any other fighter he faced.

Hopkins - 130/317, (35%) Taylor - 124 of 391, (32%)
Hopkins - 133/417, (32%) Tarver - 78/437, (18%)
Hopkins - 152/640, (24%) Wright - 167/618 (27%)
Hopkins - 127/468, (27%) Calzaghe - 232/707 (33%)
Hopkins - 172/530, (32% ) Pavlik - 108/463 (23%)
Hopkins - 205/497 (41%) Ornelas - 113/508 (22%)
Hopkins - 185/526 (35%) Jones - 82/274 (30%)
Hopkins - 171/445 (38%) Pascal - 105/353 (29%)

Cazlaghe simply stopped Hopkins game. He should surely get credit for that? And it obviously highlights why the MAJORITY saw Calzaghe win the fight

no way joe landed 232 in that fight noway........ like i've siad before its more 150...170 if i count someother pity patters.......look there are plenty of guys here who are or where boxer......me being one of them, as a ex fighter i'm telling you 232 is not the total....compubox is someone in the crowd with a counter in there hand clicking it everytime they think a punch is thrown.....that night must have been a bad night for who ever counted joes landed punches.....theres a big diff to punching and touching....that night joe touched hopkins plenty lol but punched him 155ish

So ex-fighters can count better than normal humans? Tell me this then, as an expert ex-fighter, would you have landed 232, sorry i mean 170 punches on Hopkins, which is still MORE than any other fighter?

Your superior ex-fighter counting ability still makes Calzaghe more successful than anyone else. And doesn't change the fact that Hopkins found Calzaghe harder to hit than anyone else. Fact.

i was in no way pulling rank as a ex boxer or suggesting i no better then anyone else...the truth is there are people who have had over 100 bouts as ama and pro who know very little and those who've never even put a pair of gloves on that are experts......my point was there is a big difference in hitting someone and touching.......i can say to you that you have to add anothe 40 punches connected on calzaghe..everytime b-hop held, grabbed him in made contact did he not so thats a hit....no.....i'm saying i would not have credited joe with 70-75 of those punches because they werent punches, if you drop that many shots then hopkins clearly wins as its only the 232 that argues in joes favour in many people eyes.....i can touch or poke with my little finger at you 100 times and you wont class it a punch....if someone hits you once you know about it........watch the fight again and then say that 232 is the total.........the person who did the counting that night must have been trigger happy on the button to class that many punches thats all a ment........once again sorry if it was taken wrong the ex boxers comment it was ment to emply no such thing

I suppose all of those 127 punches from Hopkins were clean, effective earth shudderers, right?

And Hopkins defense was wonderful, unlike Calzaghe who deserves no credit whatsoever for making it so awkward for Hopkins to hit him (as my figures show - less than any other fighter Hopkins had fought in years).

And, of course, Hopkin's superior ring generalship was clear for everyone to see, apart from when Cazlaghe put him under so much pressure he resorted to begging the ref for breathers and trying to get the totally ineffective slapper disqualified.

To be honest - it's quite surprising Hopkins ever wasted his time challenging such an inferior opponent. Fact.

hahahahaha hey fenster i like your style, infact i'm thinking your maybe mr joe calzaghe himself...( if you are say hello to the old man, we'll finish that debate we start few years back in manchester with him)

dont take to much to heart about thses matters, its my view and theres your view and everyone elses.......i feel hopkins won a close fight....i was a calzaghe fan but later not so much....i am a fan of hopkins to......and many other fighters........i'l send you a drink or two mate its xmas always a pleasure to converse with the fenster