J.M. Marquez vs Mosely at 147

[Julius Rain]

Which fight did he start showing he wasn't one dimensional?
The Diaz fight?

I think he would do well if he chose his opponents right just like..

Actually aside from Diaz I think everyone pac fought above featherweight would of damage him severely if he hadn't change his jab jab straight left style.

Who leads Pac most wanted list? Mayweather, you think JMM is better then Floyd? Cause your logic is that - pac hand picks his opponent, right? Him wanting Floyd should mean Floyd is tailor made for pac just like the other opponent he has pick/destroyed right?

JMM not getting the fight with pac, does not mean he has a chance at beating this version of pac.

[hardcore_crash]

Which fight did he start showing he wasn't one dimensional?
The Diaz fight?

I think he would do well if he chose his opponents right just like..

Actually aside from Diaz I think everyone pac fought above featherweight would of damage him severely if he hadn't change his jab jab straight left style.

Who leads Pac most wanted list? Mayweather, you think JMM is better then Floyd? Cause your logic is that - pac hand picks his opponent, right? Him wanting Floyd should mean Floyd is tailor made for pac just like the other opponent he has pick/destroyed right?

JMM not getting the fight with pac, does not mean he has a chance at beating this version of pac.

Obviously, Floyd was the better fighter when he fought Marquez.
And when Pac "wanted" Floyd he put million dollar penalties which were agreed upon.
But for some reason he was too afraid of needles to take the fight.

And Mosley would most likely KO Marquez you don't have to know much to know that.
You're already going to say "oh then pac/mosley >>>> pac/marquez

[Julius Rain]

Which fight did he start showing he wasn't one dimensional?
The Diaz fight?

I think he would do well if he chose his opponents right just like..

Actually aside from Diaz I think everyone pac fought above featherweight would of damage him severely if he hadn't change his jab jab straight left style.

Who leads Pac most wanted list? Mayweather, you think JMM is better then Floyd? Cause your logic is that - pac hand picks his opponent, right? Him wanting Floyd should mean Floyd is tailor made for pac just like the other opponent he has pick/destroyed right?

JMM not getting the fight with pac, does not mean he has a chance at beating this version of pac.

Obviously, Floyd was the better fighter when he fought Marquez.
And when Pac "wanted" Floyd he put million dollar penalties which were agreed upon.
But for some reason he was too afraid of needles to take the fight.

And Mosley would most likely KO Marquez you don't have to know much to know that.
You're already going to say "oh then pac/mosley >>>> pac/marquez

With that comment its already clear to me that it is pointless to continue replying to you in the future. There is obviously more to that negotiation then what you would like to say.

[hardcore_crash]

Which fight did he start showing he wasn't one dimensional?
The Diaz fight?

I think he would do well if he chose his opponents right just like..

Actually aside from Diaz I think everyone pac fought above featherweight would of damage him severely if he hadn't change his jab jab straight left style.

Who leads Pac most wanted list? Mayweather, you think JMM is better then Floyd? Cause your logic is that - pac hand picks his opponent, right? Him wanting Floyd should mean Floyd is tailor made for pac just like the other opponent he has pick/destroyed right?

JMM not getting the fight with pac, does not mean he has a chance at beating this version of pac.

Obviously, Floyd was the better fighter when he fought Marquez.
And when Pac "wanted" Floyd he put million dollar penalties which were agreed upon.
But for some reason he was too afraid of needles to take the fight.

And Mosley would most likely KO Marquez you don't have to know much to know that.
You're already going to say "oh then pac/mosley >>>> pac/marquez

With that comment its already clear to me that it is pointless to continue replying to you in the future. There is obviously more to that negotiation then what you would like to say.

Of course there is I followed that negotiation very closely, both times.
Floyd went on vacation second time; Pac would get too drained first time.

To reply to the original question, Mosley at 147 would be too big, too strong, too much for Marquez. Mosley is faster at 147, than JMM is at 145. Mosley also hits much harder.
Juan Manuel Marquez would most likely not hurt Mosley.

But Marquez/Mosley at 140 what do you think about that

[hardcore_crash]

With that comment its already clear to me that it is pointless to continue replying to you in the future. There is obviously more to that negotiation then what you would like to say.

Does it bother you that much that you will just completely ignore that fact?
That is very embarrassing, IMO.

You could have only brought up that Floyd announced vacation and didn't show his face until Margarito fight was announced, and I could have cared less. Guess why?? Because it's true; it's a fact.

[generalbulldog]

You know what else is embarrassing? The A-Side meth accusations that Pac is on a drug that makes one invincible to not only punches in the boxing ring but bullets on the battle field of war. This whole stuff about PEDs started right there with the A-Side meth.

[hardcore_crash]

They sure are embarrassing; and I told one of my friends recently that they only hurt they're accusations by making up that A-meth drug.
They're credibility sure did drop didn't it??

Now generalbulldog, do you think I am going to completely ignore you're post and the fact that the Mayeather's said that? Of course not. It happened, they said it. And there is even a video of him saying it right?

Don't bring up the fact that Pacquiao hates needles to Pacquiao fans though. Oh no, don't do that. You will be shunned.LOL.

[generalbulldog]

They sure are embarrassing; and I told one of my friends recently that they only hurt they're accusations by making up that A-meth drug.
They're credibility sure did drop didn't it??

Now generalbulldog, do you think I am going to completely ignore you're post and the fact that the Mayeather's said that? Of course not. It happened, they said it. And there is even a video of him saying it right?

Don't bring up the fact that Pacquiao hates needles to Pacquiao fans though. Oh no, don't do that. You will be shunned.LOL.

Of course Manny's side messed up with the whole needles things and the way they handle it. I for sure don't ignored that nor do I revise history like some do with any subject.

[Spicoli]

What are we going to do when we dont have Manny and Floyd to obsess on

Marquez has a much more left in big picture and is a superior tactical boxer. Always has been. But Mosley is just huge compared,will be over 147 no doubt and can still bang with a solid beard...and Marquez does not speak "run". Mosley drops him and very possibly takes late tko.

[generalbulldog]

What are we going to do when we dont have Manny and Floyd to obsess on

Marquez has a much more left in big picture and is a superior tactical boxer. Always has been. But Mosley is just huge compared,will be over 147 no doubt and can still bang with a solid beard...and Marquez does not speak "run". Mosley drops him and very possibly takes late tko.

Well I think 2 reasons why this thread was created is because a few Pac members are trying to justify Pac's fight with Mosley at this stage and I also think it has to do with another thread around here where people were saying that JMM could also beat guys like Hatton, Margarito, Clottey, and Cotto because Pac did it, therefore JMM would do it also because he beat Pac twice in some people's eyes. You know the infamous triangle theory.

[Julius Rain]

What are we going to do when we dont have Manny and Floyd to obsess on

Marquez has a much more left in big picture and is a superior tactical boxer. Always has been. But Mosley is just huge compared,will be over 147 no doubt and can still bang with a solid beard...and Marquez does not speak "run". Mosley drops him and very possibly takes late tko.

Well I think 2 reasons why this thread was created is because a few Pac members are trying to justify Pac's fight with Mosley at this stage and I also think it has to do with another thread around here where people were saying that JMM could also beat guys like Hatton, Margarito, Clottey, and Cotto because Pac did it, therefore JMM would do it also because he beat Pac twice in some people's eyes. You know the infamous triangle theory.

I agree, I personally didn't prefer the Mosley fight. I did prefer the JMM fight but honestly I think that was harder to make then MOsley. Mosley is already a welterweight and is willing to negotiate with Top Rank. JMM had price himself out a few times before, it seem like he really wants to fight, right? Another issue with JMM is the weightclass. I still hope to see a third fight with JMM but I aint got no problem seeing Mosley get a shot. I think JMMs next fight should be at 140, just to see how he does.

[CFH]

Mosley beats Marquez, but Marquez gives Pacquiao a tougher fight than Mosley .

[Gandalf]

Mosley beats Marquez, but Marquez gives Pacquiao a tougher fight than Mosley .

I think so too, boxing is really strange that way.

[CFH]

Mosley beats Marquez, but Marquez gives Pacquiao a tougher fight than Mosley .

I think so too, boxing is really strange that way.

Styles make fights and all that jazz.

[Kev]

Mosley beats Marquez, but Marquez gives Pacquiao a tougher fight than Mosley .

I think so too, boxing is really strange that way.

I just don't get this at all. How people can think Mosley is not finished enought to beat J M Marquez, but is too shot to beat Manny is such a weird contradiction.

I think BOTH fighters are a legitimate test for Manny.

Manny is far more to Mosley's liking than Floyd and Mora. I think Mosley would always have had trouble with Sergio Mora, and I don't think any version of Mosley beat Floyd either.

Pacquaio Mosley will be a very entertaining fight.

Marquez may yet get another shot if he keeps winning. But to me Marquez is scraping past guys like Diaz, Katsidis and Casamayor in wars, guys that Mosley would just destroy.

I think Marquez looks a much easier propositon for Pacquaio now at 147 than Mosley does.

And Manny sure as hell isn't going to move down another weight class to help Marquez out, and why should he? Mosley at 147 is a better fight than Marquez at 147 imo.