Pacquiao-Mosley done deal

[Gandalf]

As far as Pac vs Bradley goes, I think people are getting way ahead of themselves on Bradley. IMO he is going to get stopped late against Alexander anyway

I think if JMM can handle the weight at 140, he beats Bradley.

I don't think Marquez needs to even beat the best at 140, but should be able to fight anyone ranked in the top 6 to get his shot at Pac. Just prove the weight is fine and the history between the two seals the deal. It's not as though Manny jumped up and fought the best at 135 and he wasn't facing the best fighter at WW when he fought Cotto at a CW, so Marquez should be entitled to simply face a credible fighter at 140 like Pac has been able to do in certain divisions. Then there is no reason for anyone to be against a Pac/Marquez fight at 140.

And like I say, I am not even sure that Marquez can beat him, but I am convinced that he can make it interesting and test Manny in a way that other fighters are not able to. Size is not the challenge for Manny, it is precision counter punching and all any of us are asking is that Manny test himself. Get away from Arum and his constant in house shenanigans and get Manny in there with fighters on a winning streak or else are unbeaten. Enough with these damaged or tainted fighters. It is doing nothing to enhance Manny's reputation.

I'm not saying he has to beat the best at 140, I'm just saying if he can handle the weight at 140 I believe he will beat Bradley.

Bradley is the best at 140, so what the fuck are you talking about? Manny has never even gone there so why should Marquez? Because Manny only fights a certain kind of come forward fighter. He will avoid Bradley and of course he will avoid Marquez too.

But, you want to defend the Mosley fight? Pathetic.

[Julius Rain]

As far as Pac vs Bradley goes, I think people are getting way ahead of themselves on Bradley. IMO he is going to get stopped late against Alexander anyway

I think if JMM can handle the weight at 140, he beats Bradley.

I don't think Marquez needs to even beat the best at 140, but should be able to fight anyone ranked in the top 6 to get his shot at Pac. Just prove the weight is fine and the history between the two seals the deal. It's not as though Manny jumped up and fought the best at 135 and he wasn't facing the best fighter at WW when he fought Cotto at a CW, so Marquez should be entitled to simply face a credible fighter at 140 like Pac has been able to do in certain divisions. Then there is no reason for anyone to be against a Pac/Marquez fight at 140.

And like I say, I am not even sure that Marquez can beat him, but I am convinced that he can make it interesting and test Manny in a way that other fighters are not able to. Size is not the challenge for Manny, it is precision counter punching and all any of us are asking is that Manny test himself. Get away from Arum and his constant in house shenanigans and get Manny in there with fighters on a winning streak or else are unbeaten. Enough with these damaged or tainted fighters. It is doing nothing to enhance Manny's reputation.

I'm not saying he has to beat the best at 140, I'm just saying if he can handle the weight at 140 I believe he will beat Bradley.

Bradley is the best at 140, so what the fuck are you talking about? Manny has never even gone there so why should Marquez? Because Manny only fights a certain kind of come forward fighter. He will avoid Bradley and of course he will avoid Marquez too.

But, you want to defend the Mosley fight? Pathetic.

Last time Pac was at 140, he slaughter the lineal champion in 2 rounds. What part do you not understand, I said if JMM can handle the weight at 140 I think he beats Bradley weather you think Bradley is now the best there or not. I dont see anybody at 140 that can beat JMM if he can handle the weight. I dont have a problem with the fact that a third match between pac and jmm is not happening because like I said I would like to see JMM fight at 140 first, which I believe he will win. Therefor giving more value to a fight with pac at 140.

I am not defending the Mosley fight, I called it a gimmie, stay busy, money making fight, remember?

How are you suppose to defend JMM if he fights Morales?

[bzkfn]

As far as Pac vs Bradley goes, I think people are getting way ahead of themselves on Bradley. IMO he is going to get stopped late against Alexander anyway

I think if JMM can handle the weight at 140, he beats Bradley.

I don't think Marquez needs to even beat the best at 140, but should be able to fight anyone ranked in the top 6 to get his shot at Pac. Just prove the weight is fine and the history between the two seals the deal. It's not as though Manny jumped up and fought the best at 135 and he wasn't facing the best fighter at WW when he fought Cotto at a CW, so Marquez should be entitled to simply face a credible fighter at 140 like Pac has been able to do in certain divisions. Then there is no reason for anyone to be against a Pac/Marquez fight at 140.

And like I say, I am not even sure that Marquez can beat him, but I am convinced that he can make it interesting and test Manny in a way that other fighters are not able to. Size is not the challenge for Manny, it is precision counter punching and all any of us are asking is that Manny test himself. Get away from Arum and his constant in house shenanigans and get Manny in there with fighters on a winning streak or else are unbeaten. Enough with these damaged or tainted fighters. It is doing nothing to enhance Manny's reputation.

I'm not saying he has to beat the best at 140, I'm just saying if he can handle the weight at 140 I believe he will beat Bradley.

Bradley is the best at 140, so what the fuck are you talking about? Manny has never even gone there so why should Marquez? Because Manny only fights a certain kind of come forward fighter. He will avoid Bradley and of course he will avoid Marquez too.

But, you want to defend the Mosley fight? Pathetic.

Last time Pac was at 140, he slaughter the lineal champion in 2 rounds. What part do you not understand, I said if JMM can handle the weight at 140 I think he beats Bradley weather you think Bradley is now the best there or not. I dont see anybody at 140 that can beat JMM if he can handle the weight. I dont have a problem with the fact that a third match between pac and jmm is not happening because like I said I would like to see JMM fight at 140 first, which I believe he will win. Therefor giving more value to a fight with pac at 140.

I am not defending the Mosley fight, I called it a gimmie, stay busy, money making fight, remember?

How are you suppose to defend JMM if he fights Morales?

If you check the Marquez-Morales thread, you'll see he doesn't defend it. None of us can. Marquez & Pacquiao should be fighting each other, rather than the opponents they have chosen.

[Kev]

As far as Pac vs Bradley goes, I think people are getting way ahead of themselves on Bradley. IMO he is going to get stopped late against Alexander anyway

I think if JMM can handle the weight at 140, he beats Bradley.

I don't think Marquez needs to even beat the best at 140, but should be able to fight anyone ranked in the top 6 to get his shot at Pac. Just prove the weight is fine and the history between the two seals the deal. It's not as though Manny jumped up and fought the best at 135 and he wasn't facing the best fighter at WW when he fought Cotto at a CW, so Marquez should be entitled to simply face a credible fighter at 140 like Pac has been able to do in certain divisions. Then there is no reason for anyone to be against a Pac/Marquez fight at 140.

And like I say, I am not even sure that Marquez can beat him, but I am convinced that he can make it interesting and test Manny in a way that other fighters are not able to. Size is not the challenge for Manny, it is precision counter punching and all any of us are asking is that Manny test himself. Get away from Arum and his constant in house shenanigans and get Manny in there with fighters on a winning streak or else are unbeaten. Enough with these damaged or tainted fighters. It is doing nothing to enhance Manny's reputation.

I'm not saying he has to beat the best at 140, I'm just saying if he can handle the weight at 140 I believe he will beat Bradley.

Bradley is the best at 140, so what the fuck are you talking about? Manny has never even gone there so why should Marquez? Because Manny only fights a certain kind of come forward fighter. He will avoid Bradley and of course he will avoid Marquez too.

But, you want to defend the Mosley fight? Pathetic.

Manny did go there, he knocked out the long time Ring undisputed champion at the weight Ricky Hatton in two blistering rounds.

Thenew guys like Bradley, Alexander, Khan etc are fighting to establish themselves as the next Ring champ following on from Hatton. Right now they are all challengers rather than the true champ.

But Hatton was unquestionably the light welterweight king and Manny smashed him.

[KananKrus]

I just re-watched the oldie fights, Cotto vs. Judah and Margarito vs. Mosley.

Cotto and Margarito as observed after viewing these fights were significantly improved when they faced but still both lost out to Pacquiao. If not much with skill, Tony and Miguel improved on their individual preparations leading up to their fight against Manny, but despite this all, both still lost miserably. This certifies the accolades bestowed upon by fans for the fighter from Gen San, in the Philippines.

I view this upcoming fight of Pac against Mosley as a no gimme' at all! Mosley will misconstrue the fickle fears from detractors and come up with the necessary skill and make up to make this a competitive and an interesting scrap. Or better yet, legitimize a puncher's chance in beating his opponent regardless of the odds. Manny pound for pound king or not, come fight night, Mosley will come inspired to inflict a beating on him.

After all as logic just follows, these fighters including Shane Mosley are world class and certifiable future hall of famers, and the like... They will twist and shout come fight night not wanting in preparedness, in ammunition, and with the maximum available skill.

They will only get beat, if it lead be, simply because the other guy was just better on that given fight... which off on a tangent, reason I am dumfounded no end that SS Mosley gassed out after two rounds with Floyd Jr. especially this was after owning the "Money" man just the previous round. This dismal display is so untypical a characteristic of the level fighter Mosley is viewed as.

The Mosley that beat the skittish Margarito will have it fair if not better to land a haymaker on Pac to turn the table and win some serious Vegas' cash for the underdogs. Any one claiming Pac is the clear favorite against Shane, much in the same breath as in the Margarito fight, is just setting up shop to negate any merit so shall Pac gain when he prevails against a boxer of certifiable renown, in Sugar Shane Mosley!

All said and done, I like Pac's chances. If he avoids any of those SS Mosley bombs, I favor him to win by UD.