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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ant Live View Post
    We need to stop promoting a Mayorga fight. Or even giving it any consideration. Cotto has much better option to fight instead of Mayorga

    1. Martinez
    2. Berto
    3. Vanes
    4. Cintron
    5. Augulo
    6. Kirkland
    7. Williams
    8. Dzinziruk
    9. Jcc Jr
    10.Wolak

    to name a few
    This all comes down to risk/reward. A Mayorga fight will sell just because of his mouth. Remember that this is considered a tune up for a Margarito rematch in June, so that would rule out half of the names on your list. Of the less risky names presented, this is the fight that will make the most money. I certainly wouldn't consider Wolak a more viable option. I'd have zero interest in that fight. He isn't a name, and he isn't going to trouble Cotto.
    How is Mayorga a tune-up for Margarito? Cotto fights sell because of Cotto. Mayorga doesn't bring anything more to the table than anyone else. He hasn't looked good in years. I agree this comes down to risk and reward because there is no risk in this fight. Cotto picked an unchallenging opponent who he'll look good destroying. This is an easy fight to make Cotto some money while he waits for Margarito to heal from the Pacquiao beating. Fair play by Cotto really. The problem to me is that the fight is completely uncompetitive and uninteresting. At least with the Foreman fight, even though we knew Cotto would win, we also knew Foreman had some skills and was in his prime.
    Dude when Mayorga starts mouthing off, people become interested in wanting to see him get the crap kicked out of him. The media tour will sell this. If Cotto had fought Wolak, I can't see how people would be interested. I agree, there is no risk, but this will make more money than a fight with Wolak or Vanes.

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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ant Live View Post
    We need to stop promoting a Mayorga fight. Or even giving it any consideration. Cotto has much better option to fight instead of Mayorga

    1. Martinez
    2. Berto
    3. Vanes
    4. Cintron
    5. Augulo
    6. Kirkland
    7. Williams
    8. Dzinziruk
    9. Jcc Jr
    10.Wolak

    to name a few
    This all comes down to risk/reward. A Mayorga fight will sell just because of his mouth. Remember that this is considered a tune up for a Margarito rematch in June, so that would rule out half of the names on your list. Of the less risky names presented, this is the fight that will make the most money. I certainly wouldn't consider Wolak a more viable option. I'd have zero interest in that fight. He isn't a name, and he isn't going to trouble Cotto.
    How is Mayorga a tune-up for Margarito? Cotto fights sell because of Cotto. Mayorga doesn't bring anything more to the table than anyone else. He hasn't looked good in years. I agree this comes down to risk and reward because there is no risk in this fight. Cotto picked an unchallenging opponent who he'll look good destroying. This is an easy fight to make Cotto some money while he waits for Margarito to heal from the Pacquiao beating. Fair play by Cotto really. The problem to me is that the fight is completely uncompetitive and uninteresting. At least with the Foreman fight, even though we knew Cotto would win, we also knew Foreman had some skills and was in his prime.
    Dude when Mayorga starts mouthing off, people become interested in wanting to see him get the crap kicked out of him. The media tour will sell this. If Cotto had fought Wolak, I can't see how people would be interested. I agree, there is no risk, but this will make more money than a fight with Wolak or Vanes.
    Bz, I completely agree with you. Fair play to Cotto. Most of the names on the list aren't viable options.

    I would have rather seen him fight Vanes or Cintron. Cintron v. Cotto could sell as a fight for the Puerto Rican crown at that weight. I think Cotto sells his fights, not his opponent. I don't think he'd make any more money against Mayorga than he would against Vanes, and definitely not Cintron. I guess this fight makes sense if it just a gimme fight before he takes on a real challenge.

    Vanes and Cintron were the only names on the list that made sense, but they are higher risk fights even if the rewards were the same.

    As much as I admire his guts, I don't believe Wolak will ever be in Cotto's league. Cotto turned down Martinez in my opinion because he would attempt to extract revenge from Margarito, and the Mayorga fight is a way to pad his pockets while Margarito heals. Fighting Margarito again makes sense. Kirkland needs at least one tune-up before a fight with a big name as does Williams. Angulo doesn't have a visa so that takes him out of the picture.

    I would prefer Cotto to face Martinez than Margarito. But, that's just me. The thing is I don't think Cotto stands much of a chance against Martinez at this point in his career. Maybe it's a fight for early next year that could happen though.

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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ant Live View Post
    We need to stop promoting a Mayorga fight. Or even giving it any consideration. Cotto has much better option to fight instead of Mayorga

    1. Martinez
    2. Berto
    3. Vanes
    4. Cintron
    5. Augulo
    6. Kirkland
    7. Williams
    8. Dzinziruk
    9. Jcc Jr
    10.Wolak

    to name a few
    This all comes down to risk/reward. A Mayorga fight will sell just because of his mouth. Remember that this is considered a tune up for a Margarito rematch in June, so that would rule out half of the names on your list. Of the less risky names presented, this is the fight that will make the most money. I certainly wouldn't consider Wolak a more viable option. I'd have zero interest in that fight. He isn't a name, and he isn't going to trouble Cotto.
    How is Mayorga a tune-up for Margarito? Cotto fights sell because of Cotto. Mayorga doesn't bring anything more to the table than anyone else. He hasn't looked good in years. I agree this comes down to risk and reward because there is no risk in this fight. Cotto picked an unchallenging opponent who he'll look good destroying. This is an easy fight to make Cotto some money while he waits for Margarito to heal from the Pacquiao beating. Fair play by Cotto really. The problem to me is that the fight is completely uncompetitive and uninteresting. At least with the Foreman fight, even though we knew Cotto would win, we also knew Foreman had some skills and was in his prime.
    Dude when Mayorga starts mouthing off, people become interested in wanting to see him get the crap kicked out of him. The media tour will sell this. If Cotto had fought Wolak, I can't see how people would be interested. I agree, there is no risk, but this will make more money than a fight with Wolak or Vanes.
    Bz, I completely agree with you. Fair play to Cotto. Most of the names on the list aren't viable options.

    I would have rather seen him fight Vanes or Cintron. Cintron v. Cotto could sell as a fight for the Puerto Rican crown at that weight. I think Cotto sells his fights, not his opponent. I don't think he'd make any more money against Mayorga than he would against Vanes, and definitely not Cintron. I guess this fight makes sense if it just a gimme fight before he takes on a real challenge.

    Vanes and Cintron were the only names on the list that made sense, but they are higher risk fights even if the rewards were the same.

    As much as I admire his guts, I don't believe Wolak will ever be in Cotto's league. Cotto turned down Martinez in my opinion because he would attempt to extract revenge from Margarito, and the Mayorga fight is a way to pad his pockets while Margarito heals. Fighting Margarito again makes sense. Kirkland needs at least one tune-up before a fight with a big name as does Williams. Angulo doesn't have a visa so that takes him out of the picture.

    I would prefer Cotto to face Martinez than Margarito. But, that's just me. The thing is I don't think Cotto stands much of a chance against Martinez at this point in his career. Maybe it's a fight for early next year that could happen though.
    Yeah I love Cotto but a Martinez would be career suicide right now. I agree that Cotto is the selling point but it takes 2 to tango. Why do you think Oscar fighting Forbes wasn't PPV? Calling it a present for the fans was bullshit. Twas a gimme. For Cotto, why not take a gimme with an opponent who's mouth sells? I'm intrigued in this fight to see if Cotto loses his cool, because he never has before.

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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    I want to do a poll, I tried asking just now "when Mayorga stops Cotto will it be because Mayorga is underrated or because Cotto is overrated".

    Now I understand there are some people on here that dispise the thought of Mayorga kicking Cottos head in, so I will repost it worded slightly differently.

    People who support Cotto are saying this fight is just so easy for their man, a tune up. So if Cotto loses to this easy tune up opponent is it because...

    A, Mayorga is underrated or

    B, Cotto is overrated ?

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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    I want to do a poll, I tried asking just now "when Mayorga stops Cotto will it be because Mayorga is underrated or because Cotto is overrated".

    Now I understand there are some people on here that dispise the thought of Mayorga kicking Cottos head in, so I will repost it worded slightly differently.

    People who support Cotto are saying this fight is just so easy for their man, a tune up. So if Cotto loses to this easy tune up opponent is it because...

    A, Mayorga is underrated or

    B, Cotto is overrated ?
    Neither, it'll just mean Cotto should retire. Mayorga is a slugger, who isn't active an is getting on. Cotto is all skill. His resume proves he isn't overrated. If he loses it, it'll just mean its time.

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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    I want to do a poll, I tried asking just now "when Mayorga stops Cotto will it be because Mayorga is underrated or because Cotto is overrated".

    Now I understand there are some people on here that dispise the thought of Mayorga kicking Cottos head in, so I will repost it worded slightly differently.

    People who support Cotto are saying this fight is just so easy for their man, a tune up. So if Cotto loses to this easy tune up opponent is it because...

    A, Mayorga is underrated or

    B, Cotto is overrated ?
    Neither, it'll just mean Cotto should retire. Mayorga is a slugger, who isn't active an is getting on. Cotto is all skill. His resume proves he isn't overrated. If he loses it, it'll just mean its time.
    Well! Youv changed your tune! Your actual words were "there is no risk"

    So if Mayorga wins, that means either

    A, Mayorga is underrated or

    B, Cotto is overrated

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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    I want to do a poll, I tried asking just now "when Mayorga stops Cotto will it be because Mayorga is underrated or because Cotto is overrated".

    Now I understand there are some people on here that dispise the thought of Mayorga kicking Cottos head in, so I will repost it worded slightly differently.

    People who support Cotto are saying this fight is just so easy for their man, a tune up. So if Cotto loses to this easy tune up opponent is it because...

    A, Mayorga is underrated or

    B, Cotto is overrated ?
    Neither, it'll just mean Cotto should retire. Mayorga is a slugger, who isn't active an is getting on. Cotto is all skill. His resume proves he isn't overrated. If he loses it, it'll just mean its time.
    Well! Youv changed your tune! Your actual words were "there is no risk"

    So if Mayorga wins, that means either

    A, Mayorga is underrated or

    B, Cotto is overrated
    Well my answer was based on your question "So if Cotto loses to this easy tune up opponent is it because..."

    Personally, I don't believe there is a risk, because I don't think Cotto is done, and I think he handles Mayorga with ease. So I haven't changed my tune, I was just answering your question.

    It doesn't mean Cotto is overrated or Mayorga is underrated at all. For example, prime for prime, Jose Luis Castillo & Arturo Gatti would kick the crap out of Alfonso Gomez. Gomez beat them both. Is it because Gomez is underrated and both of those guys were overrated? No. It's because they were both shot to shit.

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