Top 5 P4P Now?

[Rantcatrat]

1. Pac
2. Floyd
3. Sergio
4. Marquez
5. Juan Ma

Can you explain why it is you have JuanMa so high on your p4p list?

Whilst I wouldn't have him there myself his acomplishments are as great as Donaire's imo.

Two weight world champ, undefeated unlike Donaire. Has beaten more world champions than Donaire. Has beaten a future Hall of Famer in R Marquez, not sure Darchinyan or Montiel are on the level of Raphael Marquez.

Lopez has knocked out two reigning world champs in De Leon and Lueveno and forced Marquez to quit after 8 rounds also.

I can't decide how high I'd place JuanMa on my list. I'd have him top ten for sure. My only thing is that he hasn't beat the best in his division at featherweight. Donaire just destroyed the best in his division. I've always liked Mares, but Montiel was the best in the division after Donaire. To me, JuanMa would merit top 5 if he beat Gamboa or Chris John, or he had beat Caballero before Caballero's loss to Litzau, in a similarly decisive fashion. Who was considered the best at 122 when JuanMa was in that division (besides JuanMa)?

Donaire also has gone from 112 to 118, a three division champ whereas JuanMa is a two division champion. Am I correct on that? Can't recall right now exactly.

The Ponce De Leon victory was a big win and that is a big part of the reason why I have him in my top ten. Marquez was great at 118 and 122, but not so much at 126. See my point. Bottom line I guess is that I'm skeptical of giving JuanMa too lofty of a ranking until he beats Gamboa or John.

[Kev]

1. Pac
2. Floyd
3. Sergio
4. Marquez
5. Juan Ma

Can you explain why it is you have JuanMa so high on your p4p list?

Whilst I wouldn't have him there myself his acomplishments are as great as Donaire's imo.

Two weight world champ, undefeated unlike Donaire. Has beaten more world champions than Donaire. Has beaten a future Hall of Famer in R Marquez, not sure Darchinyan or Montiel are on the level of Raphael Marquez.

Lopez has knocked out two reigning world champs in De Leon and Lueveno and forced Marquez to quit after 8 rounds also.

I can't decide how high I'd place JuanMa on my list. I'd have him top ten for sure. My only thing is that he hasn't beat the best in his division at featherweight. Donaire just destroyed the best in his division. I've always liked Mares, but Montiel was the best in the division after Donaire. To me, JuanMa would merit top 5 if he beat Gamboa or Chris John, or he had beat Caballero before Caballero's loss to Litzau, in a similarly decisive fashion. Who was considered the best at 122 when JuanMa was in that division (besides JuanMa)?

Donaire also has gone from 112 to 118, a three division champ whereas JuanMa is a two division champion. Am I correct on that? Can't recall right now exactly.

The Ponce De Leon victory was a big win and that is a big part of the reason why I have him in my top ten. Marquez was great at 118 and 122, but not so much at 126. See my point. Bottom line I guess is that I'm skeptical of giving JuanMa too lofty of a ranking until he beats Gamboa or John.

Donaire started at 115 then moved down to 112 to fight Darchinyan before moving back up again after a couple defences. He's a two weight world champ.