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    Default Re: James DeGale vs George Groves (full amateur fight)

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    i think its a stamina thing

    i think they are evenly matched and in the first 6-8 rounds it could go either way, in fact i think groves hits a bit harder so he has a chance of an earlyish knockout

    i reckon tho degale is so relaxed and waists so little energy he will still be fresh when it moves to the middle rounds, where as groves has quite and energetic style
    Knowing people who've fought both in the ams, Groves is reckoned to be a much harder puncher, with DeGale a bit quicker in terms of handspeed & a lot in terms of feet & head movement.

    Obviously that will have changed a bit given how they've been affected by the pro style, but I'd say it's still fairly accurate.
    I reckon that's pretty clear to see from that fight. DeGale looks noticeably quicker but slaps worse than Calzaghe, so it's obvious people would say Groves, who has shown a good dig in the pros too, was the harder puncher. Although DeGale has also shown he's not a powderpuff hitter.

    Groves has better success in the third round when he starts feinting/picking his spots before just rushing in letting the punches go, quite interesting as I always criticize him for over cloning Haye's style but it looks like he definitely needed some serious polish.

    What a great prospects fight. I just hope it doesn't turn into a quick mismatch. If it does - I'm confident DeGale is the winner.
    Yeah, a definite frustration with DeGale is how he doesn't always turn his punches over. I think cloning Haye's style is a problem for him because he lacks the same athleticism and I think that more than anything else is what will do for him against Chunky.

    It is a great prospects fight, I just hope that the loser can still comeback from it.

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    Default Re: James DeGale vs George Groves (full amateur fight)

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    i think its a stamina thing

    i think they are evenly matched and in the first 6-8 rounds it could go either way, in fact i think groves hits a bit harder so he has a chance of an earlyish knockout

    i reckon tho degale is so relaxed and waists so little energy he will still be fresh when it moves to the middle rounds, where as groves has quite and energetic style
    Knowing people who've fought both in the ams, Groves is reckoned to be a much harder puncher, with DeGale a bit quicker in terms of handspeed & a lot in terms of feet & head movement.

    Obviously that will have changed a bit given how they've been affected by the pro style, but I'd say it's still fairly accurate.
    I reckon that's pretty clear to see from that fight. DeGale looks noticeably quicker but slaps worse than Calzaghe, so it's obvious people would say Groves, who has shown a good dig in the pros too, was the harder puncher. Although DeGale has also shown he's not a powderpuff hitter.

    Groves has better success in the third round when he starts feinting/picking his spots before just rushing in letting the punches go, quite interesting as I always criticize him for over cloning Haye's style but it looks like he definitely needed some serious polish.

    What a great prospects fight. I just hope it doesn't turn into a quick mismatch. If it does - I'm confident DeGale is the winner.
    Yeah, a definite frustration with DeGale is how he doesn't always turn his punches over. I think cloning Haye's style is a problem for him because he lacks the same athleticism and I think that more than anything else is what will do for him against Chunky.

    It is a great prospects fight, I just hope that the loser can still comeback from it.
    Groves doesn't have Haye's one punch power to quickly end/turn a fight either. Although I did hear him acknowledge this the other week so maybe they are working on throwing more punches.

    I hope the loser does well too. I reckon Haye/Booth already have his Thompson loss in mind should Groves lose. Plenty of time to come back.
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    Default Re: James DeGale vs George Groves (full amateur fight)

    Groves is holding his left much higher than he does now. He should try and get away from the Haye style a bit for this fight. De Gale will win easily I think.

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