Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
Martinez has fought all comers. If he takes a light touch right now ok. Then maybe after Chavez jr we'll see
Haha, brilliant

He's the Middleweight Champ, there's no excuse for this shitty match-up. It was on the basis that Dmitry Pirog only beat a prospect in Danny Jacobs that Maravila's people have ignored him so how can they say Ishida is all good??

There are people saying Martinez is the best fighter in the world, well when was the last time either or the two guys above him fought an opponent on the level of Ishida. I'd say you're looking at Hector Velaszquez & Henry Brusseles, but in both those cases they were mandated to fight them & neither were for world titles.

I get fighting Chavez Jr, he may likely be the mandatory plus there's a ton of money in it, but a voluntary against Ishida is a joke, particularly if Pirog is just jammin' in Russia.

Rant,

Haymon doesn't promote fights, he manages fighters, but his contacts are largely to do with TV companies rather than those in boxing officialdom. I also thought Sergio won the first fight, but it was close & I figured his loss had more to do with the fact Williams was the name at that point than any kind of corruption. I agree on everything else though, a 3rd fight sees Williams get waxed, particularly if he has that idiot Peterson in his corner.
Jaz, makes sense. I was being cynical. But, I agree, it was probably due to his name.

The fight hasn't been signed yet so let's wait to heep criticism on him. I just read that Ishida is promoted by Canelo and Canelo has a ton of pull on HBO. If Sergio wants a stay busy fight so be it, as long as the next fight is against someone real. I think the card proposed was Pirog v. Manfredo and Martinez v. Ishida, which would lead into a Winter 2011 Pirog v. Martinez if both won. That makes sense because it gives Martinez a breather, he stays active, and then he takes a unification fight.

Pirog's KO of Jacobs was nasty. No one will argue with you about that. However, he lost his new-found momentum by taking too long off between fights and then after the long lay-off, staying in Russia and fighting some unheralded Argentine. To make matters worse, from what I understand, his performance was flat.

Sergio Martinez's problem of the lack of available opponents was exacerbated this weekend after Kirkland and Lemieux bit the dust. Now who does he fight? He even has less options than previously if you can believe it. Literally, the only truly competitive fights out there for him are Pirog or Sturm given that Cotto isn't fighting him. There really isn't anyone else. I want to see him face Sturm more than Pirog. But, I understand that Sturm won't ever leave Germany.