Martinez-Ishida in the works???

[UKPH]

Seems Dibella is willing to go with Ishida-Martinez this fall.

Bombs away: DiBella nominates Kirkland conqueror Ishida for Martinez - National Boxing | Examiner.com

[CFH]

So Ishida and all of his 9 ko's is an 'exciting slugger' now?

It really sucks that there aren't some real challengers out there for Martinez. He needs to move up (or back down) in weight.

[generalbulldog]

I also heard Peter Manfredo and CHavez Jr. could be his next opponents. Seems like he doesn't have too many options.

[Spicoli]

Martinez has fought all comers. If he takes a light touch right now ok. Then maybe after Chavez jr we'll see

[No Contest]

Chavez Jr will not be fighting Sergio Martinez anytime soon. Just a hunch....Why not give Williams another shot, he gave Sergio a chance at redemption. Why all of a sudden he's too good for PW? It was one huge punch, I highly doubt Williams takes the same risky approach if they make a part 3.

[Rantcatrat]

Chavez Jr will not be fighting Sergio Martinez anytime soon. Just a hunch....Why not give Williams another shot, he gave Sergio a chance at redemption. Why all of a sudden he's too good for PW? It was one huge punch, I highly doubt Williams takes the same risky approach if they make a part 3.

I bet the plan is to wait to see what happens in the June 4th match between Chavez Jr. and Zbik. If Chavez Jr. wins, they'll try to make that fight.

If you're the Punisher's handlers, do you put him in the ring with Maravilla again anytime soon? That "one punch" you referred has taken Paul Williams out of boxing for the last six months and it looks like it could be a year before he gets back in the ring. Contrast that with when Paul Williams lost to Quintana, he was back in the ring within two months. To be honest, I believe, and there are many others like me, that Martinez would be 2-0 against Williams if the first fight wasn't promoted by Al Haymon. At any rate, Williams needs at least two warm-up fights before this should even be considered by either side. It's like saying Librado Andrade deserves a third fight with Bute. Do we really need to see that? The first fight was close, but I think the second fight answered any questions about that particular match-up. Sergio is just better.

[JonnyFolds]

Chavez Jr will not be fighting Sergio Martinez anytime soon. Just a hunch....Why not give Williams another shot, he gave Sergio a chance at redemption. Why all of a sudden he's too good for PW? It was one huge punch, I highly doubt Williams takes the same risky approach if they make a part 3.

Did you watch the fight? Martinez was hitting him with his Right hand over and over. There were probably 5 cracking shots that Williams took before the KO. I mean whip crack sounding shots. No way he got Lucky against Williams whatsoever. I fully expected Martinez to crush him in that rematch. But, I think Williams could make the trilogy something great, but he hasn't even had a tune up fight. That AND he already said he is going back down to WW or JMW. Sux because nobody would be dumb enough to put their prospect in with PWill. I still think he is that good. He just climbed too high in weight. God I hate promoters

[JazMerkin]

Martinez has fought all comers. If he takes a light touch right now ok. Then maybe after Chavez jr we'll see

Haha, brilliant

He's the Middleweight Champ, there's no excuse for this shitty match-up. It was on the basis that Dmitry Pirog only beat a prospect in Danny Jacobs that Maravila's people have ignored him so how can they say Ishida is all good??

There are people saying Martinez is the best fighter in the world, well when was the last time either or the two guys above him fought an opponent on the level of Ishida. I'd say you're looking at Hector Velaszquez & Henry Brusseles, but in both those cases they were mandated to fight them & neither were for world titles.

I get fighting Chavez Jr, he may likely be the mandatory plus there's a ton of money in it, but a voluntary against Ishida is a joke, particularly if Pirog is just jammin' in Russia.

Rant,

Haymon doesn't promote fights, he manages fighters, but his contacts are largely to do with TV companies rather than those in boxing officialdom. I also thought Sergio won the first fight, but it was close & I figured his loss had more to do with the fact Williams was the name at that point than any kind of corruption. I agree on everything else though, a 3rd fight sees Williams get waxed, particularly if he has that idiot Peterson in his corner.

[Rantcatrat]

Martinez has fought all comers. If he takes a light touch right now ok. Then maybe after Chavez jr we'll see

Haha, brilliant

He's the Middleweight Champ, there's no excuse for this shitty match-up. It was on the basis that Dmitry Pirog only beat a prospect in Danny Jacobs that Maravila's people have ignored him so how can they say Ishida is all good??

There are people saying Martinez is the best fighter in the world, well when was the last time either or the two guys above him fought an opponent on the level of Ishida. I'd say you're looking at Hector Velaszquez & Henry Brusseles, but in both those cases they were mandated to fight them & neither were for world titles.

I get fighting Chavez Jr, he may likely be the mandatory plus there's a ton of money in it, but a voluntary against Ishida is a joke, particularly if Pirog is just jammin' in Russia.

Rant,

Haymon doesn't promote fights, he manages fighters, but his contacts are largely to do with TV companies rather than those in boxing officialdom. I also thought Sergio won the first fight, but it was close & I figured his loss had more to do with the fact Williams was the name at that point than any kind of corruption. I agree on everything else though, a 3rd fight sees Williams get waxed, particularly if he has that idiot Peterson in his corner.

Jaz, makes sense. I was being cynical. But, I agree, it was probably due to his name.

The fight hasn't been signed yet so let's wait to heep criticism on him. I just read that Ishida is promoted by Canelo and Canelo has a ton of pull on HBO. If Sergio wants a stay busy fight so be it, as long as the next fight is against someone real. I think the card proposed was Pirog v. Manfredo and Martinez v. Ishida, which would lead into a Winter 2011 Pirog v. Martinez if both won. That makes sense because it gives Martinez a breather, he stays active, and then he takes a unification fight.

Pirog's KO of Jacobs was nasty. No one will argue with you about that. However, he lost his new-found momentum by taking too long off between fights and then after the long lay-off, staying in Russia and fighting some unheralded Argentine. To make matters worse, from what I understand, his performance was flat.

Sergio Martinez's problem of the lack of available opponents was exacerbated this weekend after Kirkland and Lemieux bit the dust. Now who does he fight? He even has less options than previously if you can believe it. Literally, the only truly competitive fights out there for him are Pirog or Sturm given that Cotto isn't fighting him. There really isn't anyone else. I want to see him face Sturm more than Pirog. But, I understand that Sturm won't ever leave Germany.

[Ant Live]

Yes it is truly ashame Martinez can't get a major fight. He should wait until May 7 and by in the ring during the post fight if Manny wins. But Manny don't want that. He's now talking 140 is his best weight. Anyways, all the top fighters at 154 and 160 are busy and Martinez is stuck at ringside. If he can't get a big fight soon I wouldn't mind sseeing Martinez vs Dirrell.

By the way, Williams said he wanted a 3rd fight but IMO, I don't think he really meant it. But for certain, the Williams camp didn't want a 3rd fight. The next time we see P. Williams, it will be at 154 or 147. Not 160! And someone with no real pop. Like Sergio Mora

[generalbulldog]

So Ishida and all of his 9 ko's is an 'exciting slugger' now?

It really sucks that there aren't some real challengers out there for Martinez. He needs to move up (or back down) in weight.

If his ass wants a challenge then schedule a fight with Ward, Bute, Froch, Kessler at 168. But Sergio's groupies believe he's too small for those guys and it's not a fair fight. But the same groupies think a fight with 2 p4p blownup lightweights at 160 is fair.

[JonnyFolds]

So Ishida and all of his 9 ko's is an 'exciting slugger' now?

It really sucks that there aren't some real challengers out there for Martinez. He needs to move up (or back down) in weight.

If his ass wants a challenge then schedule a fight with Ward, Bute, Froch, Kessler at 168. But Sergio's groupies believe he's too small for those guys and it's not a fair fight. But the same groupies think a fight with 2 p4p blownup lightweights at 160 is fair.

Martinez has NEVER cried foul. I am glad he has handler to prevent him from throwing himself in the furnace. The guy clearly does not care who he has to fight. It's a matter of matchmaking and money... How much money does Ward Froch Kessler bring? Yeah... I thought so.

You also omit that Martinez already said Pac is too little for him to fight. Mayweather is big enough to challenge at JMW, but he is not interested in fighting.

If Floyd is a blown up Lightweight... how did Floyd miss weight against JMM?