WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Where's the rebuttal for my post Horn? Everytime I've posted that, no one has said anything back regardless of the thread.

Yes, Horn, where is it? Where is the proof? Show me the proof and I'll be the number 1 Pachater in this forum. I'll do what mafiajoey intents to do with Floyd, shit on Pac's driveway and everyone can video it for youtube.

Where is the proof!!!

Where's the proof he's clean. See the post reply I've just done.

From your reasoning, then it means every boxer out there is not clean.

Prove to me that there is even a single boxer out there who is clean.

[Hornfinger]

Where's the rebuttal for my post Horn? Everytime I've posted that, no one has said anything back regardless of the thread.

Yes, Horn, where is it? Where is the proof? Show me the proof and I'll be the number 1 Pachater in this forum. I'll do what mafiajoey intents to do with Floyd, shit on Pac's driveway and everyone can video it for youtube.

Where is the proof!!!

Where's the proof he's clean. See the post reply I've just done.

From your reasoning, then it means every boxer out there is not clean.

Prove to me that there is even a single boxer out there who is clean.

My god how fucking simple are you !? I mean really? How many times do I have to keep saying the same fucking thing to you?

Read back over the thread. You'll see that I have said on this forum numerous times....

I think their is a question mark over the head of EVERY ATHLETE on the planet who hasn't taken a random blood test.

IT IS THE DUTY OF THE ATHLETE TO PROVE HE/SHE IS CLEAN AND LEGIT.

In boxing only a few have done that. In my book everyone else has a question mark over their head. YES EVERYONE! And it's not my job to try to show someones clean, it's down to the athlete. I can't behave like a pacfan. I can't go round saying someones clean when they haven't passed sufficiant tests.

I WILL NEVER SAY CATAGORICALLY THAT SOMEONE IS CLEAN IF THEY HAVENT PASSED RANDOM BLOOD TESTING.

It just so happens Pacquiao has done more than most to stay away from real testing at all costs.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Where's the rebuttal for my post Horn? Everytime I've posted that, no one has said anything back regardless of the thread.

Yes, Horn, where is it? Where is the proof? Show me the proof and I'll be the number 1 Pachater in this forum. I'll do what mafiajoey intents to do with Floyd, shit on Pac's driveway and everyone can video it for youtube.

Where is the proof!!!

Where's the proof he's clean. See the post reply I've just done.

From your reasoning, then it means every boxer out there is not clean.

Prove to me that there is even a single boxer out there who is clean.

My god how fucking simple are you !? I mean really? How many times do I have to keep saying the same fucking thing to you?

Read back over the thread. You'll see that I have said on this forum numerous times....

I think their is a question mark over the head of EVERY ATHLETE on the planet who hasn't taken a random blood test.

IT IS THE DUTY OF THE ATHLETE TO PROVE HE/SHE IS CLEAN AND LEGIT.

In boxing only a few have done that. In my book everyone else has a question mark over their head. YES EVERYONE! And it's not my job to try to show someones clean, it's down to the athlete. I can't behave like a pacfan. I can't go round saying someones clean when they haven't passed sufficiant tests.

I WILL NEVER SAY CATAGORICALLY THAT SOMEONE IS CLEAN IF THEY HAVENT PASSED RANDOM BLOOD TESTING.

It just so happens Pacquiao has done more than most to stay away from real testing at all costs.

Stop cursing.

You still haven't proven to me that any boxer out there is clean, you moron!!!

[marbleheadmaui]

Where's the rebuttal for my post Horn? Everytime I've posted that, no one has said anything back regardless of the thread.

Yes, Horn, where is it? Where is the proof? Show me the proof and I'll be the number 1 Pachater in this forum. I'll do what mafiajoey intents to do with Floyd, shit on Pac's driveway and everyone can video it for youtube.

Where is the proof!!!

Where's the proof he's clean. See the post reply I've just done.

From your reasoning, then it means every boxer out there is not clean.

Prove to me that there is even a single boxer out there who is clean.

My god how fucking simple are you !? I mean really? How many times do I have to keep saying the same fucking thing to you?

Read back over the thread. You'll see that I have said on this forum numerous times....

I think their is a question mark over the head of EVERY ATHLETE on the planet who hasn't taken a random blood test.

IT IS THE DUTY OF THE ATHLETE TO PROVE HE/SHE IS CLEAN AND LEGIT.

In boxing only a few have done that. In my book everyone else has a question mark over their head. YES EVERYONE! And it's not my job to try to show someones clean, it's down to the athlete. I can't behave like a pacfan. I can't go round saying someones clean when they haven't passed sufficiant tests.

I WILL NEVER SAY CATAGORICALLY THAT SOMEONE IS CLEAN IF THEY HAVENT PASSED RANDOM BLOOD TESTING.
It just so happens Pacquiao has done more than most to stay away from real testing at all costs.

See this is what I just don't get. Given how lousy testing is (including WADA) why any sensible person would take any comfort in testing results. Hell Marion Jones, Shane etc. never got caught. And btw it is the duty of athletes to obey the rules. Not to respond to irresponsible allegations.

[Hornfinger]

Where's the rebuttal for my post Horn? Everytime I've posted that, no one has said anything back regardless of the thread.

Yes, Horn, where is it? Where is the proof? Show me the proof and I'll be the number 1 Pachater in this forum. I'll do what mafiajoey intents to do with Floyd, shit on Pac's driveway and everyone can video it for youtube.

Where is the proof!!!

Where's the proof he's clean. See the post reply I've just done.

From your reasoning, then it means every boxer out there is not clean.

Prove to me that there is even a single boxer out there who is clean.

My god how fucking simple are you !? I mean really? How many times do I have to keep saying the same fucking thing to you?

Read back over the thread. You'll see that I have said on this forum numerous times....

I think their is a question mark over the head of EVERY ATHLETE on the planet who hasn't taken a random blood test.

IT IS THE DUTY OF THE ATHLETE TO PROVE HE/SHE IS CLEAN AND LEGIT.

In boxing only a few have done that. In my book everyone else has a question mark over their head. YES EVERYONE! And it's not my job to try to show someones clean, it's down to the athlete. I can't behave like a pacfan. I can't go round saying someones clean when they haven't passed sufficiant tests.

I WILL NEVER SAY CATAGORICALLY THAT SOMEONE IS CLEAN IF THEY HAVENT PASSED RANDOM BLOOD TESTING.

It just so happens Pacquiao has done more than most to stay away from real testing at all costs.

Stop cursing.

You still haven't proven to me that any boxer out there is clean, you moron!!!

Are you illiterate!? Or just completely ignorent?

Read my reply again (I doubt you read it in the first place) Especially this part you MORON....

And it's not my job to try to show someones clean, it's down to the athlete.

[Hornfinger]

See this is what I just don't get. Given how lousy testing is (including WADA) why any sensible person would take any comfort in testing results. Hell Marion Jones, Shane etc. never got caught. And btw it is the duty of athletes to obey the rules. Not to respond to irresponsible allegations.

So on that basis why do you take comfort in pacquiao passing a urine test?

I know why, cuz your a blind pacfan that ignores everything and anything that might show your hero in a less than favourable light.

It's the duty of the athlete to prove they are clean.

And as I've said a million times before and NeutralCorner still can't wrap his tiny little brain around the fact that I don't believe ANY athlete is clean.

[marbleheadmaui]

See this is what I just don't get. Given how lousy testing is (including WADA) why any sensible person would take any comfort in testing results. Hell Marion Jones, Shane etc. never got caught. And btw it is the duty of athletes to obey the rules. Not to respond to irresponsible allegations.

So on that basis why do you take comfort in pacquiao passing a urine test?

I know why, cuz your a blind pacfan that ignores everything and anything that might show your hero in a less than favourable light.

It's the duty of the athlete to prove they are clean.

And as I've said a million times before and NeutralCorner still can't wrap his tiny little brain around the fact that I don't believe ANY athlete is clean.

LOL, I take no comfort in ANY of the current testing you idiot. That is the ONLY logical stance given what we know.

What you fail to get is NOBODY cares about nor is required to respond to your (or my) beliefs. NOBODY! Get evidence or you're just like a guy standing on a street corner in urine stained pants and an old trenchcoat shouting "The end is coming!"

[InTheNeutralCorner]

I WILL NEVER SAY CATAGORICALLY THAT SOMEONE IS CLEAN IF THEY HAVENT PASSED RANDOM BLOOD TESTING.

Give us some of the names of those who you think are categorically clean and what's your basis?

If Manny agreed to Floyd's drug test demand in the first negotiation, would that have been satisfactory to you? And if Manny tested negative in those, would you have categorically said that Manny is clean?

[:::PSL:::]

Where's the rebuttal for my post Horn? Everytime I've posted that, no one has said anything back regardless of the thread.

Yes, Horn, where is it? Where is the proof? Show me the proof and I'll be the number 1 Pachater in this forum. I'll do what mafiajoey intents to do with Floyd, shit on Pac's driveway and everyone can video it for youtube.

Where is the proof!!!

Where's the proof he's clean. See the post reply I've just done.

From your reasoning, then it means every boxer out there is not clean.

Prove to me that there is even a single boxer out there who is clean.

My god how fucking simple are you !? I mean really? How many times do I have to keep saying the same fucking thing to you?

Read back over the thread. You'll see that I have said on this forum numerous times....

I think their is a question mark over the head of EVERY ATHLETE on the planet who hasn't taken a random blood test.

IT IS THE DUTY OF THE ATHLETE TO PROVE HE/SHE IS CLEAN AND LEGIT.

In boxing only a few have done that. In my book everyone else has a question mark over their head. YES EVERYONE! And it's not my job to try to show someones clean, it's down to the athlete. I can't behave like a pacfan. I can't go round saying someones clean when they haven't passed sufficiant tests.

I WILL NEVER SAY CATAGORICALLY THAT SOMEONE IS CLEAN IF THEY HAVENT PASSED RANDOM BLOOD TESTING.

It just so happens Pacquiao has done more than most to stay away from real testing at all costs.

Stop cursing.

You still haven't proven to me that any boxer out there is clean, you moron!!!

Are you illiterate!? Or just completely ignorent?

Read my reply again (I doubt you read it in the first place) Especially this part you MORON....

And it's not my job to try to show someones clean, it's down to the athlete.

You're losing the arguement here bud.

Again... WHERE IS THAT PROOF YOURS?

This whole shit is not about what you think or know. IT'S ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN PROVE. And so far you're not convincing. All you do is twist shit around.

Tip: Try starting from the root of all these. Start from the baseless accusation. Ask yourself something like "did the Filipino soldiers really fought the Americans centuries ago?". "Is it true that American soldiers' bullets were useless against Filipino soldiers during that war because of a-side meth?".

If you think you have a strong case. Then try selling that to the judge (NSAC) and jury (boxing fans).

Goodluck.

[C-Lo]

Where's the rebuttal for my post Horn? Everytime I've posted that, no one has said anything back regardless of the thread.

Yes, Horn, where is it? Where is the proof? Show me the proof and I'll be the number 1 Pachater in this forum. I'll do what mafiajoey intents to do with Floyd, shit on Pac's driveway and everyone can video it for youtube.

Where is the proof!!!

Where's the proof he's clean. See the post reply I've just done.

Pacquiao has passed all the required drug tests given to him by the commission. Where's your proof he's dirty?

[Hornfinger]

See this is what I just don't get. Given how lousy testing is (including WADA) why any sensible person would take any comfort in testing results. Hell Marion Jones, Shane etc. never got caught. And btw it is the duty of athletes to obey the rules. Not to respond to irresponsible allegations.

So on that basis why do you take comfort in pacquiao passing a urine test?

I know why, cuz your a blind pacfan that ignores everything and anything that might show your hero in a less than favourable light.

It's the duty of the athlete to prove they are clean.

And as I've said a million times before and NeutralCorner still can't wrap his tiny little brain around the fact that I don't believe ANY athlete is clean.

LOL, I take no comfort in ANY of the current testing you idiot. That is the ONLY logical stance given what we know.

What you fail to get is NOBODY cares about nor is required to respond to your (or my) beliefs. NOBODY! Get evidence or you're just like a guy standing on a street corner in urine stained pants and an old trenchcoat shouting "The end is coming!"

Don't be on a thread saying that pacquiao is clean then you idiot. Way to contradict yourself idiot.

[Hornfinger]

Show me proof Pacquiao is on PEDs and you have another Pachater on my part. Not speculation, hypothesis, or situations, I just was PROOF.

Show me proof that he's NOT on roids. Show me a CLEAN random blood test.

I want proof he's not on roids.


Here's another thing.

Why don't pac fans want manny to take a test? Surely pacfans should want him to take a test, pass it and then rub it in the face of every floyd fan and doubter etc... To me I don't think pacfans are convinced. To me they seem scared he might fail the test.

But this is why i think pacfans are not boxing fans, they're just pacfrans. Any boxing fan would want to see stricter testing and more importantly a fair playing field in every fight. In my view pac fans don't want this cuz they dont want their boy to take a test.

If your not for testing, fair fights and an even playing field then you ain't a fan of boxing.

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When you can't argue a point resort to the tactics and mentallity of a 4 year old.

Absolutely not! I was being polite at your level! You took someones post and attached my name to it! For that, you're an ass!

I and others have given you plenty of rational statements in this thread to which your reply is only childish.

I challenge you to provide "Any Athlete's blood test results" as proof that they were clean from drug usage. Again that is "Any Athlete.

Gonna have to repeat myself AGAIN for all the moronic.


I'LL BELIEVE AN ATHLETE (ANY ATHLETE) IS CLEAN WHEN YOU SHOW ME THAT THEY HAVE PASSED A RANDOM BLOOD TEST. NOT BEFORE.

I DON'T BELIEVE ANY ATHLETE THAT HASN'T PASSED ONE IS CLEAN.

URINE TESTING IS COMPLETELY SUB STANDARD AND OUT OF DATE AND WILL DETECT FUCK ALL!


I CAN'T MAKE IT CLEARER THAN THAT.

[Hornfinger]

Where's the rebuttal for my post Horn? Everytime I've posted that, no one has said anything back regardless of the thread.

Yes, Horn, where is it? Where is the proof? Show me the proof and I'll be the number 1 Pachater in this forum. I'll do what mafiajoey intents to do with Floyd, shit on Pac's driveway and everyone can video it for youtube.

Where is the proof!!!

Where's the proof he's clean. See the post reply I've just done.

From your reasoning, then it means every boxer out there is not clean.

Prove to me that there is even a single boxer out there who is clean.

My god how fucking simple are you !? I mean really? How many times do I have to keep saying the same fucking thing to you?

Read back over the thread. You'll see that I have said on this forum numerous times....

I think their is a question mark over the head of EVERY ATHLETE on the planet who hasn't taken a random blood test.

IT IS THE DUTY OF THE ATHLETE TO PROVE HE/SHE IS CLEAN AND LEGIT.

In boxing only a few have done that. In my book everyone else has a question mark over their head. YES EVERYONE! And it's not my job to try to show someones clean, it's down to the athlete. I can't behave like a pacfan. I can't go round saying someones clean when they haven't passed sufficiant tests.

I WILL NEVER SAY CATAGORICALLY THAT SOMEONE IS CLEAN IF THEY HAVENT PASSED RANDOM BLOOD TESTING.

It just so happens Pacquiao has done more than most to stay away from real testing at all costs.

Stop cursing.

You still haven't proven to me that any boxer out there is clean, you moron!!!

Are you illiterate!? Or just completely ignorent?

Read my reply again (I doubt you read it in the first place) Especially this part you MORON....

And it's not my job to try to show someones clean, it's down to the athlete.

You're losing the arguement here bud.

Again... WHERE IS THAT PROOF YOURS?

This whole shit is not about what you think or know. IT'S ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN PROVE. And so far you're not convincing. All you do is twist shit around.

Tip: Try starting from the root of all these. Start from the baseless accusation. Ask yourself something like "did the Filipino soldiers really fought the Americans centuries ago?". "Is it true that American soldiers' bullets were useless against Filipino soldiers during that war because of a-side meth?".

If you think you have a strong case. Then try selling that to the judge (NSAC) and jury (boxing fans).

Goodluck.

LOL and funnily enough you can't prove pacquiao is clean hahahahaha

No blood test means you have no proof he's clean done dusted arguement won by Mr Hornfinger. Run along now.

I'LL BELIEVE AN ATHLETE (ANY ATHLETE) IS CLEAN WHEN YOU SHOW ME THAT THEY HAVE PASSED A RANDOM BLOOD TEST. NOT BEFORE.

I DON'T BELIEVE ANY ATHLETE THAT HASN'T PASSED ONE IS CLEAN.

URINE TESTING IS COMPLETELY SUB STANDARD AND OUT OF DATE AND WILL DETECT FUCK ALL!


I CAN'T MAKE IT CLEARER THAN THAT.

[Hornfinger]

Where's the rebuttal for my post Horn? Everytime I've posted that, no one has said anything back regardless of the thread.

Yes, Horn, where is it? Where is the proof? Show me the proof and I'll be the number 1 Pachater in this forum. I'll do what mafiajoey intents to do with Floyd, shit on Pac's driveway and everyone can video it for youtube.

Where is the proof!!!

Where's the proof he's clean. See the post reply I've just done.

Pacquiao has passed all the required drug tests given to him by the commission. Where's your proof he's dirty?

It's like talking to a retarded child....

I'LL BELIEVE AN ATHLETE (ANY ATHLETE) IS CLEAN WHEN YOU SHOW ME THAT THEY HAVE PASSED A RANDOM BLOOD TEST. NOT BEFORE.

I DON'T BELIEVE ANY ATHLETE THAT HASN'T PASSED ONE IS CLEAN.

URINE TESTING IS COMPLETELY SUB STANDARD AND OUT OF DATE AND WILL DETECT FUCK ALL!


I CAN'T MAKE IT CLEARER THAN THAT.

[mnmc10]

No blood test means you have no proof he's dirty either. all of your allegations against pac is baseless and doesnt mean sh!t cause you have no proof.

i have no probs if you think pac is juiced, thats your opinion i dont care. but whats stupid is you want everyone in here to agree with you. calling people pactard, moronic or ball suckers wont help.