Calzaghe's win over B-Hop looks better all the time.......

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Could also say that ward is picking up on peoples left overs lest see him make as many defenses as Calzaghe before we say he going to sure pass him. Also to go 46 and be undefeated is pretty hard to the smw is packed right now and middle wasn't even packed when Hopkins fought there.

I would also argue the point that Andre Ward has nothing to do with this thread. Just seems like a smug way for Majesty to say that Ward has been fortunate enough to be in a division with a number of decent fighters. Has Kessler really been the same since Calzaghe? Plus Ward had to foul him to death to get the win too. Bika? Another easy Calzaghe left over. There is nobody on Wards resume that Calzaghe wouldn't have beaten and in far more impressive style too.

Kessler had enough to beat Froch didn't he, and before you complain about the fouls, Kessler had already lost every round to Ward before the serious headbutts and cut. So that isn't the reason he lost, you shouldn't hold onto that for so long. Ward was/is just the better fighter than Kessler. Ward didn't have to foul his way to victory, he was already easily beating him before the huge fouls happened.

Mr140 said that he would like to see Ward have as many defenses as Calzaghe did at Super Middleweight before being on par, but then downplayed Hopkins Middleweight accomplishment by saying Middleweight wasn't packed when Hopkins was defending. So why give more of a credit to Joe when Super Middleweight wasn't exactly bombing either at the time.

Ward is fortunate enough to be in a division with a number of decent fighters, but he's also been fortunate enough to dominate them all as well.

Point is there is a boxer one can argue is about 2 or 3 fights away from having a better Super Middleweight resume than Calzaghe, and so soon after his retirement. You say there isn't any names on Ward's resume that Calzaghe wouldn't have beaten easier. Is there anyone really on Calzaghe's resume especially when he fought some of those names with the exception of Hopkins that would have given Ward a lot of trouble? His four biggest wins, are Kessler, Lacy, Jones and Hopkins.

After seeing Roy this weekend there's no doubt he should have got out long ago.
Think Lacy would trouble Ward?
Ward beat Kessler easily and was winning easily before the big fouls took place. it was Kessler's style and lack of ability to have a plan B that lost him the Ward fight(same thing that lost him the Calzaghe fight though it took Joe longer to figure him out)
Hopkins would give Ward issues as he would give anyone issues.

Of the four biggest wins of Calzaghe's career, only Hopkins would trouble Ward if we look at the times that Calzaghe fought them.

But when it comes to Hopkins, no one is gonna be saying that about a "hopkins successor" in a long long time. So my point is that while people say Calzaghe's win over B-Hop looks better every day. if you look at where history is gonna place them, Calzaghe's reign and resume is already in danger, whereas Hopkins' will be untouched for a very long time, you can't compare the two or try to use Calzaghe's win to jumpstart over what Hopkins has done and is doing.