WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???

[cnote111]

That is my stance. And in my opinion no one has given me any good reason or argument why I should change that point of view.

Fan johnny has given some good arguements.

PSL has been a tyopical blinkered pac fan and put forward some absolutely stupid points

Neutral corner keeps saying i'm discredited but instead of actually saying how or why I'm discredited he starts talking about floyd mayweather.

That is the small and skinny of it thus far.

Ok, just so i don't muck this up...

This is you:
1. Pac has not passed a blood test along with any other fighter that hasn't taken random blood testing. And for you that causes a great deal of distrust.
2. Drug Testing is out of date
3. NSAC is short on funds to make this better.

My response:
1. Year round olympic style is the closest full proof method. No one in professional boxing has done true olympic year round testing (which i'm for) including PBF. He has had some random blood testing and i'm sure there are other fighters that have had unscheduled blood tests and passed. However with no professional boxer is subject to year round olympic style testing this should not instill instant guilt or lack of trust. It means nothing until the system changes. They are fighters competiting in the current system. No reason to be upset about that, right?
2. Yes, not our problem - We are not competiting
3. Yes, what can anyone do about it?

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You've been able to do in one post what neutral corner hasn't been able to do for 17 pages, and that is address the points. For that I commend you.

1. I stated in a previous post that floyd and shane were clean for their fight. fights before or after that don't included random testing have a question mark. That is my point of view.

2. No we're not but we are the consumer buying PPVs, gambling etc. We should demand/expect fair and even contests. Just cuz I'm not competing doesn't mean I shouldn't care about fairness etc. It's very easy to be apathetic towards the issue, i choose not to be

3. The boxers can do alot about it. Especially the high profile ones that conduct the big money. If they all start demanding random testing etc you'd see it implemented very quickley. As fans it's obviously alot harder to make your voice heard.

I've been on here a long time, i just don't post very often because i don't want to get drawn into a multiquote battle.

None the less.

1. A fair point of view, but a "?" does not = distrust or guilt. It falls under the current standard practice and should be acceptable until changed.
example: I test brake parts as a part of day job, if a customer sends me a part and says it is defective and i test it under all manufacturer specifications and tell them that there is nothing wrong with it. It would be inappropriate for them to attack me with distrust or with aggressive accusations because i am currently following the guidlines set in place.
2. You can fight the good fight; however, "Don't hate the playa, hate the game"

3. Why would the fighters ask for more drug testing whether they are clean or not. I just dont think they care nearly has much as you.

[Hornfinger]

I've been on here a long time, i just don't post very often because i don't want to get drawn into a multiquote battle.

None the less.

1. A fair point of view, but a "?" does not = distrust or guilt. It falls under the current standard practice and should be acceptable until changed.
example: I test brake parts as a part of day job, if a customer sends me a part and says it is defective and i test it under all manufacturer specifications and tell them that there is nothing wrong with it. It would be inappropriate for them to attack me with distrust or with aggressive accusations because i am currently following the guidlines set in place.
2. You can fight the good fight; however, "Don't hate the playa, hate the game"

3. Why would the fighters ask for more drug testing whether they are clean or not. I just dont think they care nearly has much as you.

Yes I try to ease off the multi quotes, however some, particularly on this thread, live by them.

Nope you are right a ? doesn't = guilt neccassarily BUT in my view it sn't acceptable. But that's just my view.

Do your break tests cover all new break designs? Have any of your customers crashed after your tests? I would guess the answers would be yes and no. Urine testing will not detect modern steroids and PEDS. If your tests did test modern breaks sufficiantly I'm guessing your practices would be changed rght away.

I don't hate the player. I've said i think ALL ATHLETES in ALL sports who haven't been tested have a ? over them. I don't hate the game either. I love the sport BUT I don't like the commisions, promotors and politics of it.

I think fighters don't kick up a fuss for a number of reasons. All reasons lead back to two things. Money and Steroid Cheat. Money being the main one.

[fan johnny]

Yes I try to ease off the multi quotes, however some, particularly on this thread, live by them.

Nope you are right a ? doesn't = guilt neccassarily BUT in my view it sn't acceptable. But that's just my view.

Do your break tests cover all new break designs? Have any of your customers crashed after your tests? I would guess the answers would be yes and no. Urine testing will not detect modern steroids and PEDS. If your tests did test modern breaks sufficiantly I'm guessing your practices would be changed rght away.

I don't hate the player. I've said i think ALL ATHLETES in ALL sports who haven't been tested have a ? over them. I don't hate the game either. I love the sport BUT I don't like the commisions, promotors and politics of it.

I think fighters don't kick up a fuss for a number of reasons. All reasons lead back to two things. Money and Steroid Cheat. Money being the main one.

Or how about they just don't give a fuk!

[Hornfinger]

Or how about they just don't give a fuk!

Cuz alot are juicing and it would make life harder for them. I Agree.

If you really think that fighters, sports athletes don't care about fairness in their sport then you really must be retarded.