If Vitali beats Adameck...

[El Kabong]

you are wrong completely, in fact ive never read a post from you when you have been more wrong

and you say all this about haye, but wlads performance wasnt exactly macho, he took no chances either (a lot more than usual but still very little)

if haye had won i wouldnt be telling you how crap wlad is/was whatever, be as honourable in defeat as in victory

you should accept the situation that whilst wlad and vitali are champs unless one of them fight haye again then we wont have any excitement like we had for the last month or two until they retire and we get a new champ

Wladimir came to fight which is why he spent his time stalking Haye down. Did Wlad stand toe to toe with David? No...#1 that's not Wlad's style but #2 Haye wouldn't have returned the favor. The issue people have with Wlad's defense is simply this he's a big guy and usually instead of just blocking a punch he'll block and move sometimes to try and set up a counter punch and its odd seeing a guy who is 6'7 jump back or tie up when a fighter gets inside (although Lewis and Ali did the same fucking thing, but I digress). Did Wlad let his hands go enough? No, I don't think he did, but part of that comes from Wlad being around so long (56 wins now) that he knows what he has to do to win rounds, certainly he would have liked the KO, but he couldn't make Haye stand still to get it.

At the end of the day Wlad is THE Champion and it was Haye's job to take the belts off of him...and all I can say for Haye's effort is: for a guy with a broken toe he certainly ran well enough.

Who says we won't have excitement? I'm happy every time the Klitschko's fight, they are great champions. As for the division as a whole, it'll always be interesting and there will always be good fights out there to be made. Right now if Arreola doesn't fight Wlad then an Arreola-Stiverne fight would be a hell of a brawl! Boytsov is a good action fighter, a little small for heavyweight but a good fighter. Povetkin needs to step up, I think a match vs Dimitrenko would be ok. The division has never been only about 1 or 2 guys...though Wlad and Vitali are head and shoulders above their competition.

you are happy when they fight but the majorty of the boxing world arent and thats a fact

as stubborn as you are you cant tell me that this fight with haye hasnt generated more interest around the world than any other wlads other fights by some distance

I would go as far as to say more than all of his fights in his recent reign put together

for once in a long time there was interest in the HW division and until they retire we wont get that again

unless maybe haye fights one of them again

Depends on who you ask really...just remind yourself that over 50,000 people came to watch Wladimir Klitschko vs Eddie Chambers. Has David Haye ever drawn a crowd close to that size?