If Vitali beats Adameck...

[erics44]

you are wrong completely, in fact ive never read a post from you when you have been more wrong

and you say all this about haye, but wlads performance wasnt exactly macho, he took no chances either (a lot more than usual but still very little)

if haye had won i wouldnt be telling you how crap wlad is/was whatever, be as honourable in defeat as in victory

you should accept the situation that whilst wlad and vitali are champs unless one of them fight haye again then we wont have any excitement like we had for the last month or two until they retire and we get a new champ

Wladimir came to fight which is why he spent his time stalking Haye down. Did Wlad stand toe to toe with David? No...#1 that's not Wlad's style but #2 Haye wouldn't have returned the favor. The issue people have with Wlad's defense is simply this he's a big guy and usually instead of just blocking a punch he'll block and move sometimes to try and set up a counter punch and its odd seeing a guy who is 6'7 jump back or tie up when a fighter gets inside (although Lewis and Ali did the same fucking thing, but I digress). Did Wlad let his hands go enough? No, I don't think he did, but part of that comes from Wlad being around so long (56 wins now) that he knows what he has to do to win rounds, certainly he would have liked the KO, but he couldn't make Haye stand still to get it.

At the end of the day Wlad is THE Champion and it was Haye's job to take the belts off of him...and all I can say for Haye's effort is: for a guy with a broken toe he certainly ran well enough.

Who says we won't have excitement? I'm happy every time the Klitschko's fight, they are great champions. As for the division as a whole, it'll always be interesting and there will always be good fights out there to be made. Right now if Arreola doesn't fight Wlad then an Arreola-Stiverne fight would be a hell of a brawl! Boytsov is a good action fighter, a little small for heavyweight but a good fighter. Povetkin needs to step up, I think a match vs Dimitrenko would be ok. The division has never been only about 1 or 2 guys...though Wlad and Vitali are head and shoulders above their competition.

you are happy when they fight but the majorty of the boxing world arent and thats a fact

as stubborn as you are you cant tell me that this fight with haye hasnt generated more interest around the world than any other wlads other fights by some distance

I would go as far as to say more than all of his fights in his recent reign put together

for once in a long time there was interest in the HW division and until they retire we wont get that again

unless maybe haye fights one of them again

Depends on who you ask really...just remind yourself that over 50,000 people came to watch Wladimir Klitschko vs Eddie Chambers. Has David Haye ever drawn a crowd close to that size?

yep hes pretty popular in germany

so was sven ottke

[El Kabong]

you are wrong completely, in fact ive never read a post from you when you have been more wrong

and you say all this about haye, but wlads performance wasnt exactly macho, he took no chances either (a lot more than usual but still very little)

if haye had won i wouldnt be telling you how crap wlad is/was whatever, be as honourable in defeat as in victory

you should accept the situation that whilst wlad and vitali are champs unless one of them fight haye again then we wont have any excitement like we had for the last month or two until they retire and we get a new champ

Wladimir came to fight which is why he spent his time stalking Haye down. Did Wlad stand toe to toe with David? No...#1 that's not Wlad's style but #2 Haye wouldn't have returned the favor. The issue people have with Wlad's defense is simply this he's a big guy and usually instead of just blocking a punch he'll block and move sometimes to try and set up a counter punch and its odd seeing a guy who is 6'7 jump back or tie up when a fighter gets inside (although Lewis and Ali did the same fucking thing, but I digress). Did Wlad let his hands go enough? No, I don't think he did, but part of that comes from Wlad being around so long (56 wins now) that he knows what he has to do to win rounds, certainly he would have liked the KO, but he couldn't make Haye stand still to get it.

At the end of the day Wlad is THE Champion and it was Haye's job to take the belts off of him...and all I can say for Haye's effort is: for a guy with a broken toe he certainly ran well enough.

Who says we won't have excitement? I'm happy every time the Klitschko's fight, they are great champions. As for the division as a whole, it'll always be interesting and there will always be good fights out there to be made. Right now if Arreola doesn't fight Wlad then an Arreola-Stiverne fight would be a hell of a brawl! Boytsov is a good action fighter, a little small for heavyweight but a good fighter. Povetkin needs to step up, I think a match vs Dimitrenko would be ok. The division has never been only about 1 or 2 guys...though Wlad and Vitali are head and shoulders above their competition.

you are happy when they fight but the majorty of the boxing world arent and thats a fact

as stubborn as you are you cant tell me that this fight with haye hasnt generated more interest around the world than any other wlads other fights by some distance

I would go as far as to say more than all of his fights in his recent reign put together

for once in a long time there was interest in the HW division and until they retire we wont get that again

unless maybe haye fights one of them again

Depends on who you ask really...just remind yourself that over 50,000 people came to watch Wladimir Klitschko vs Eddie Chambers. Has David Haye ever drawn a crowd close to that size?

yep hes pretty popular in germany

so was sven ottke

And the point you miss with that comparison is that Wlad is more than willing to take on anyone and everyone in the division and the refs used in Wlad's fights do a very respectable fair and balanced job.

[erics44]

And the point you miss with that comparison is that Wlad is more than willing to take on anyone and everyone in the division and the refs used in Wlad's fights do a very respectable fair and balanced job.

thats true but the point you miss is nobody (outside Germany) cared

then he fought haye

and now nobody cares again

[badr_hari]

thats true but the point you miss is nobody (outside Germany) cared

This is definitely not true. Even 6 year old kids know the Klitschko name in ALL Europe. And nobody knows the name of Haye outside UK. Although i dislike them, they are overwhelmingly popular over here.

[erics44]

thats true but the point you miss is nobody (outside Germany) cared

This is definitely not true. Even 6 year old kids know the Klitschko name in ALL Europe. And nobody knows the name of Haye outside UK. Although i dislike them, they are overwhelmingly popular over here.

ok outside germany and eastern europe

the bit about noone knowing haye ist true tho, a klit fight was shown on TV outside of eastern europe and germany the other day

[El Kabong]

thats true but the point you miss is nobody (outside Germany) cared

This is definitely not true. Even 6 year old kids know the Klitschko name in ALL Europe. And nobody knows the name of Haye outside UK. Although i dislike them, they are overwhelmingly popular over here.

ok outside germany and eastern europe

the bit about noone knowing haye ist true tho, a klit fight was shown on TV outside of eastern europe and germany the other day

Oh you mean shown outside of Germany and Eastern Europe.....LIKE ALWAYS. Even when Wlad wasn't on HBO he was still on tv in the US. Like I said before the only reason HBO has an issue with the Klitschko's is due to the times of their events take away the prime time slot for movies....HBO says otherwise, but I know what I'm talking about.

[erics44]

thats true but the point you miss is nobody (outside Germany) cared

This is definitely not true. Even 6 year old kids know the Klitschko name in ALL Europe. And nobody knows the name of Haye outside UK. Although i dislike them, they are overwhelmingly popular over here.

ok outside germany and eastern europe

the bit about noone knowing haye ist true tho, a klit fight was shown on TV outside of eastern europe and germany the other day

Oh you mean shown outside of Germany and Eastern Europe.....LIKE ALWAYS. Even when Wlad wasn't on HBO he was still on tv in the US. Like I said before the only reason HBO has an issue with the Klitschko's is due to the times of their events take away the prime time slot for movies....HBO says otherwise, but I know what I'm talking about.

alright man you win i lose

klit is top and the HW division is buzzing, all his fights are ace and he's more exciting than tyson

the haye fight was no different than any other of his fights the same amount of people watched and it generated the same amount of money

his next 10 fights will be the same doesnt matter who he fights

this era of HW boxing has had the most exciting champion in boxing history bar none

I for one cant wait to tune in to his next fight, it will be a blow for blow war

CUMMMON KLIT

[El Kabong]

Well I never said any of those things, but I do agree his next 10 fights will be just like the last few, Wlad wins and wins easy no matter who the opponent.

[Spicoli]

I think this will turn out to be a pretty good scrap before its all said and done. Adameck has the boxing mobility (of the two) and solid punch selection to keep Vitali respectful for many rounds. I give him a shot here as long as he keeps his head and keeps Vitali over active early. He is no spring chicken and has maintained serious activity level on his terms. Call me crazy....I think Adamek is very live. This will be far from one way traffic.