Marquez vs Ramos

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I thought he looked strong but a bit crude.

[marbleheadmaui]

I thought he looked strong but a bit crude.

I thought he was very sound for a 19 year old. He's got work to do of course but I'll keep looking for that name.

[marbleheadmaui]

Even at this weight Juan Manuel Lopez looks thick and too heavy. I look forward to seeing how he looks, but my initial impression is he shouldn't try to be any heavier against Manny.

[marbleheadmaui]

LOL

THAT didn't take long!

That dude is OUT!

[captainanddew]

Even at this weight Juan Manuel Lopez looks thick and too heavy. I look forward to seeing how he looks, but my initial impression is he shouldn't try to be any heavier against Manny.

I think his body looked fine. He is thicker in his last few fights at 135.

He rehydrated against katsidis to 145.

If I am him I train hard and get in great shape and come in around 138 again.

For whatever reason if Marquez were to come in at 141 and rehydrate 4 pounds and fight at 145 he'll look much worse than if he weighs in at 138 and fights at 145.

Makes no sense to me, but it seems to be true for Marquez.

[marbleheadmaui]

Even at this weight Juan Manuel Lopez looks thick and too heavy. I look forward to seeing how he looks, but my initial impression is he shouldn't try to be any heavier against Manny.

I think his body looked fine. He is thicker in his last few fights at 135.
He rehydrated against katsidis to 145.

If I am him I train hard and get in great shape and come in around 138 again.
For whatever reason if Marquez were to come in at 141 and rehydrate 4 pounds and fight at 145 he'll look much worse than if he weighs in at 138 and fights at 145.

Makes no sense to me, but it seems to be true for Marquez.

Hard to argue with that now

Manny fights around 147-148 so if JMM is 144-5 on fight night? Where he wants to be is my guess.

[fan johnny]

Even at this weight Juan Manuel Lopez looks thick and too heavy. I look forward to seeing how he looks, but my initial impression is he shouldn't try to be any heavier against Manny.

I think his body looked fine. He is thicker in his last few fights at 135.
He rehydrated against katsidis to 145.

If I am him I train hard and get in great shape and come in around 138 again.
For whatever reason if Marquez were to come in at 141 and rehydrate 4 pounds and fight at 145 he'll look much worse than if he weighs in at 138 and fights at 145.

Makes no sense to me, but it seems to be true for Marquez.

Hard to argue with that now

Manny fights around 147-148 so if JMM is 144-5 on fight night? Where he wants to be is my guess.

Something I thought was kinda weird the announcer said his official weight was 135lbs but the earlier weigh in Cor. Bob said he was heavy at 138lbs.

[captainanddew]

Even at this weight Juan Manuel Lopez looks thick and too heavy. I look forward to seeing how he looks, but my initial impression is he shouldn't try to be any heavier against Manny.

I think his body looked fine. He is thicker in his last few fights at 135.
He rehydrated against katsidis to 145.

If I am him I train hard and get in great shape and come in around 138 again.
For whatever reason if Marquez were to come in at 141 and rehydrate 4 pounds and fight at 145 he'll look much worse than if he weighs in at 138 and fights at 145.

Makes no sense to me, but it seems to be true for Marquez.

Hard to argue with that now

Manny fights around 147-148 so if JMM is 144-5 on fight night? Where he wants to be is my guess.

Something I thought was kinda weird the announcer said his official weight was 135lbs but the earlier weigh in Cor. Bob said he was heavy at 138lbs.

I believe his weight was 138 and I thought 140 was the max contracted weight for the fight. I could be wrong.

[captainanddew]

Even at this weight Juan Manuel Lopez looks thick and too heavy. I look forward to seeing how he looks, but my initial impression is he shouldn't try to be any heavier against Manny.

I think his body looked fine. He is thicker in his last few fights at 135.
He rehydrated against katsidis to 145.

If I am him I train hard and get in great shape and come in around 138 again.
For whatever reason if Marquez were to come in at 141 and rehydrate 4 pounds and fight at 145 he'll look much worse than if he weighs in at 138 and fights at 145.

Makes no sense to me, but it seems to be true for Marquez.

Hard to argue with that now

Manny fights around 147-148 so if JMM is 144-5 on fight night? Where he wants to be is my guess.

Yeah just be in the same shape as lightweight fights and that is what you have, 2 lightweights(or a lightweight and small junior welter).

I hate the people saying Pac has grown into a welter when the man is only about 3-4 pounds bigger than when he fought Marquez the last time (where they weighed in at 130!!!!!!!). And to be 3-4 pounds bigger, Pac has to consume a ton of calories during training to get there. Manny could make 135 with some work and 140 in his sleep. He eats and drinks pretty normally up to the weigh in.

[marbleheadmaui]

Even at this weight Juan Manuel Lopez looks thick and too heavy. I look forward to seeing how he looks, but my initial impression is he shouldn't try to be any heavier against Manny.

I think his body looked fine. He is thicker in his last few fights at 135.
He rehydrated against katsidis to 145.

If I am him I train hard and get in great shape and come in around 138 again.
For whatever reason if Marquez were to come in at 141 and rehydrate 4 pounds and fight at 145 he'll look much worse than if he weighs in at 138 and fights at 145.

Makes no sense to me, but it seems to be true for Marquez.

Hard to argue with that now

Manny fights around 147-148 so if JMM is 144-5 on fight night? Where he wants to be is my guess.

Yeah just be in the same shape as lightweight fights and that is what you have, 2 lightweights(or a lightweight and small junior welter).

I hate the people saying Pac has grown into a welter when the man is only about 3-4 pounds bigger than when he fought Marquez the last time (where they weighed in at 130!!!!!!!). And to be 3-4 pounds bigger, Pac has to consume a ton of calories during training to get there. Manny could make 135 with some work and 140 in his sleep. He eats and drinks pretty normally up to the weigh in.

Yup. Thanks as always! G'night!

[captainanddew]

Whoa.

[marbleheadmaui]

Right hand right down the pipe.

[marbleheadmaui]

Geeze that was impressive but i wish I'd seen more of JMM at this weight.

[Freddy Roach writes not to self. "Remind Manny not to just stand in front of Marquez."]

[fan johnny]

Was that a glass chin or a really big power shot? It just looked like Marquez's standard 1-2 punch.

[marbleheadmaui]

Was that a glass chin or a really big power shot? It just looked like Marquez's standard 1-2 punch.

Dunno. Ramos had only been KO'd once before.