Marquez vs Ramos

[marbleheadmaui]

I know he wasn't fighting anyone, but remember the name Miguel Berchelt.

Lightweight, fast hands, good feet, nice technique.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I thought he looked strong but a bit crude.

[fan johnny]

Beer break! Won't be anymore stand by's...

[captainanddew]

Raffy by TKO6 as the kid stays on his stool.

Raffy was getting hit by big shots all the way through but the other kid couldn't handle his power.

Raffy must be matched VERY carefully from here on in. One set of fast hands will end his career.

36 years old and above his best weight. Timing wasn't there. He really should consider retirement (though we know he won't).

Yeah I think I saw what you, a mere shadow of the once great Raffy. His feet just wouldn't, or couldn't move him anymore and he just couldn't get into position or avoid that left hook.

Finito junior!

like almost all fighters, he is staying too long. If it were me, I'd go into training or promoting fights in Mexico and have walked away after the last Vazquez fight. Enjoy life and hope not to do any more damage to myself. But I'm not a fighter. They want to fight as long as they can. No different than most athletes. NFL guys who will go through surgery after surgery to keep playing even though they are past it and financially set for life. NBA players who were stars hanging around to be a backup who has a few nights here and there where they show the old flash.

[marbleheadmaui]

I thought he looked strong but a bit crude.

I thought he was very sound for a 19 year old. He's got work to do of course but I'll keep looking for that name.

[marbleheadmaui]

Even at this weight Juan Manuel Lopez looks thick and too heavy. I look forward to seeing how he looks, but my initial impression is he shouldn't try to be any heavier against Manny.

[marbleheadmaui]

LOL

THAT didn't take long!

That dude is OUT!

[captainanddew]

Whoa.

[marbleheadmaui]

Right hand right down the pipe.

[fan johnny]

Was that a glass chin or a really big power shot? It just looked like Marquez's standard 1-2 punch.

[marbleheadmaui]

Geeze that was impressive but i wish I'd seen more of JMM at this weight.

[Freddy Roach writes not to self. "Remind Manny not to just stand in front of Marquez."]

[marbleheadmaui]

Was that a glass chin or a really big power shot? It just looked like Marquez's standard 1-2 punch.

Dunno. Ramos had only been KO'd once before.

[captainanddew]

Even at this weight Juan Manuel Lopez looks thick and too heavy. I look forward to seeing how he looks, but my initial impression is he shouldn't try to be any heavier against Manny.

I think his body looked fine. He is thicker in his last few fights at 135.

He rehydrated against katsidis to 145.

If I am him I train hard and get in great shape and come in around 138 again.

For whatever reason if Marquez were to come in at 141 and rehydrate 4 pounds and fight at 145 he'll look much worse than if he weighs in at 138 and fights at 145.

Makes no sense to me, but it seems to be true for Marquez.

[marbleheadmaui]

Even at this weight Juan Manuel Lopez looks thick and too heavy. I look forward to seeing how he looks, but my initial impression is he shouldn't try to be any heavier against Manny.

I think his body looked fine. He is thicker in his last few fights at 135.
He rehydrated against katsidis to 145.

If I am him I train hard and get in great shape and come in around 138 again.
For whatever reason if Marquez were to come in at 141 and rehydrate 4 pounds and fight at 145 he'll look much worse than if he weighs in at 138 and fights at 145.

Makes no sense to me, but it seems to be true for Marquez.

Hard to argue with that now

Manny fights around 147-148 so if JMM is 144-5 on fight night? Where he wants to be is my guess.

[fan johnny]

Even at this weight Juan Manuel Lopez looks thick and too heavy. I look forward to seeing how he looks, but my initial impression is he shouldn't try to be any heavier against Manny.

I think his body looked fine. He is thicker in his last few fights at 135.
He rehydrated against katsidis to 145.

If I am him I train hard and get in great shape and come in around 138 again.
For whatever reason if Marquez were to come in at 141 and rehydrate 4 pounds and fight at 145 he'll look much worse than if he weighs in at 138 and fights at 145.

Makes no sense to me, but it seems to be true for Marquez.

Hard to argue with that now

Manny fights around 147-148 so if JMM is 144-5 on fight night? Where he wants to be is my guess.

Something I thought was kinda weird the announcer said his official weight was 135lbs but the earlier weigh in Cor. Bob said he was heavy at 138lbs.