Top Amateurs need to start faster

[Kel]

Kostya was born for the pros. He was a natural finisher and went after his man more than points so I think the transition came more naturally to him as well.

You are bang on! Tszyu was fucking great to watch!

[Zelley]

I think the boxer and his team need to establish a four year plan to fight for a title. Each step along the way should be a slow improvement in quality of opposition and a test against various styles.

[JazMerkin]

Really he's not. One look at his record says it all. He's a D level fighter who's bulid up his win total by beating fellow D and F leval fighters. I would not consider him a step up

Fair enough, but I still think that fighting 10 rounds in only his 3rd pro fight is worthy of credit. On another note, I was doing the boxrec thing & saw Rigondeaux's last tomato can beat the only man to ever beat Nonito Donaire. So following Hatton-hugger logic (Hatton KO'd Castillo who Mayweather only closely beat) that must mean that Rigondeaux is now pound for pound top 10. Taeth will be happy

Sorry what has Rigondeaux done so far to not prove him to be a future top boxer in the sport? After watching him, and all his fights that are on youtube, how can you not be convinced of how good he is? Or do we have to weight for him to beat guys like Vazquez, JML, Marquez, and Gamboa? Because it will happen in the next couple of years.

[jokaleras]

wilder has little amateur experience.

[holmcall]

I think the boxer and his team need to establish a four year plan to fight for a title. Each step along the way should be a slow improvement in quality of opposition and a test against various styles.

Like Russ Abner is doing with Canadian David Lemuiex (16-0 with 16 kos). That is agreat model to follow IMO.

[jokaleras]

you forgot to space between 'a' and 'great'. otherwise, good call holmcall.

[holmcall]

you forgot to space between 'a' and 'great'. otherwise, good call holmcall.

AAaargh!

[Violent Demise]

The guy's about to have his third fight

Three fights. 3. Who cares what a guy does in his first three fights?

When people claim your the greatest amateur fighter ever and a for sure pound for pound fighter it matters

I think the boxer and his team need to establish a four year plan to fight for a title. Each step along the way should be a slow improvement in quality of opposition and a test against various styles.

Like Russ Abner is doing with Canadian David Lemuiex (16-0 with 16 kos). That is agreat model to follow IMO.

I've had my eye on Lemieux since he turned pro.

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post505336

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post505361

I think he was 4-0 at that time

[El Kabong]

I think we can say Tavoris Cloud has moved along quite nicely. He could have EASILY been in over his head vs Clinton Woods this early in his career.

[holmcall]

I think we can say Tavoris Cloud has moved along quite nicely. He could have EASILY been in over his head vs Clinton Woods this early in his career.

I agree. His team has handled him very well. He comes to fight a full 12 rounds.

[El Kabong]

I think we can say Tavoris Cloud has moved along quite nicely. He could have EASILY been in over his head vs Clinton Woods this early in his career.

I agree. His team has handled him very well. He comes to fight a full 12 rounds.

Yeah, it's surprising a pure power puncher like him that is as green as he is can make it 12 without having too much trouble. Some power fighters tucker out in the late rounds, Cloud was still doing good work late in the fight...good for him and his trainers! Now if only he could make someone miss with some punches

[Spicoli]

They just force feed alot of these young guys to us.You do not have to air every single fight of a guys first 5,6,7 contests and brand them the next coming of Leonard,Ali and other greats.It has really gone off of the deep end last couple of years & way to much emphasis on glossy amateur records.These are the padding years and working the kinks out with very low level comp who fall over with eagerness,sort of like watching sausage being made.If the networks-promoters insist on the big push and want us to believe...they need to require sterner and breathing opponents to gauge them by.

[amat]

OK how can you possibly argue that Danny Jacobs is being brought up to slow? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? He's less then 2 years into his career with 18 fights, he's been fighting pretty much nonstop and he's 22 years old! 22 years old! Do you know how young that is? For him you just want to have him out there learning on the job and let his body fully develop. Shit man not everyone is Tszyu or De La Hoya.

With the Cubans I can see your point, with the exception of Gamboa who is younger then Solis and Rigondeaux. Solis has been a bit of a dud as far as his competition goes, you would like to see him making more strides in what is seen as a down heavyweight division. I think he's kind of just got stuck and has been going through the motions in Germany earning a healthy living probably. That's the thing we have to remember about Cubans is that the switch from Cuba to the US requires just as much adjusting then making the switch from amateur to pro. It's a lot but Rigondeaux is a special talent I wouldn't think it will take to long to get the ball rolling.

[OumaFan]

The guy's about to have his third fight

Three fights. 3. Who cares what a guy does in his first three fights?

When people claim your the greatest amateur fighter ever and a for sure pound for pound fighter it matters

No, I still don't think so, its just nitpicking to me. Its three fights In fact I'm proposing a new rule, no one can complain about who somebody fights in his first three fights. I doubt it will pass. His fourth fight though is fair game

[amat]

You like what they are doing with David Lemieux but not Danny Jacobs? That is a MASSIVE contradiction.