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    Default Re: Post your list in this thread prior to arguing with someone else's

    Quote Originally Posted by frankenfrank View Post
    Those who argue about other people's validity of lists and don't post their own do not worth a reply . Honestly , in these boards , most replies don't worth a reply anyway .

    Here R some more of my rankings :
    h2h ranking of d (super)heavyweight division :
    1. Nicolay Valuev
    2. Oliver McCall
    3. George Foreman
    4. Vitali Klitschko
    5. David Tua
    6. Tony Tucker
    7. Evander Holyfield
    8. Lennox Lewis
    9. Ike Ibeabuchi
    10. Larry Holmes

    11. Mike Tyson
    12. Riddick Bowe
    13. Lamon Brewster
    14. Ross Puritty
    15. James Douglas
    16. James Smith
    17. Wladimir Klitschko
    18. Joe Frazier
    19. Joe Louis
    20. Henry Akinwande


    21. Jameel McCline
    22. Chris Byrd
    23. Ron Lyle
    24. Earnie Shavers
    25. Jimmy Young
    26. David Haye
    27. Sultan Ibragimov
    28. Dominick Guinn
    29. Joe Mesi
    30. Michael Grant

    31. George Chuvalo
    32. Bob Cleroux
    33. Tony Tubbs
    34. Kirk Johnson
    35. Larry Donald
    36. James Tillis
    37. Jesse Fergusson
    38. Bert Cooper
    39. Ray Mercer
    40. Orlin Norris

    41. Pinklon Thomas
    42. Michael Dokes
    43. Carl Williams



    I will not reply 2 any1 whom didn't post his alternative list .
    My top 10 list of HW's is this.

    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. George Foreman
    4. Joe Frazier
    5. Evander Holyfield
    6. Lennox Lewis
    7. Gene Tunney
    8. Larry Holmes
    9. Jack Dempsey
    10. Rocky Marciano

    But now back to your list. You have Valuev as number 1? Is it reverse order of people to hold a HW title? In fact no it can't be as there are the odd decent name scattered here and there. But Oliver McCall number 2? For what? To be a great boxer you must have great mental strength and McCall is the last possible person that springs to mind when that comes into play.
    Last edited by rjj tszyu; 08-01-2012 at 11:18 AM.

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    Default Re: Post your list in this thread prior to arguing with someone else's

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by frankenfrank View Post
    Those who argue about other people's validity of lists and don't post their own do not worth a reply . Honestly , in these boards , most replies don't worth a reply anyway .

    Here R some more of my rankings :
    h2h ranking of d (super)heavyweight division :
    1. Nicolay Valuev
    2. Oliver McCall
    3. George Foreman
    4. Vitali Klitschko
    5. David Tua
    6. Tony Tucker
    7. Evander Holyfield
    8. Lennox Lewis
    9. Ike Ibeabuchi
    10. Larry Holmes

    11. Mike Tyson
    12. Riddick Bowe
    13. Lamon Brewster
    14. Ross Puritty
    15. James Douglas
    16. James Smith
    17. Wladimir Klitschko
    18. Joe Frazier
    19. Joe Louis
    20. Henry Akinwande


    21. Jameel McCline
    22. Chris Byrd
    23. Ron Lyle
    24. Earnie Shavers
    25. Jimmy Young
    26. David Haye
    27. Sultan Ibragimov
    28. Dominick Guinn
    29. Joe Mesi
    30. Michael Grant

    31. George Chuvalo
    32. Bob Cleroux
    33. Tony Tubbs
    34. Kirk Johnson
    35. Larry Donald
    36. James Tillis
    37. Jesse Fergusson
    38. Bert Cooper
    39. Ray Mercer
    40. Orlin Norris

    41. Pinklon Thomas
    42. Michael Dokes
    43. Carl Williams



    I will not reply 2 any1 whom didn't post his alternative list .
    My top 10 list of HW's is this.

    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. George Foreman
    4. Joe Frazier
    5. Evander Holyfield
    6. Lennox Lewis
    7. Gene Tunney
    8. Larry Holmes
    9. Jack Dempsey
    10. Rocky Marciano

    But now back to your list. You have Valuev as number 1? Is it reverse order of people to hold a HW title? In fact no it can't be as there are the odd decent name scattered here and there. But Oliver McCall number 2? For what? To be a great boxer you must have great mental strength and McCall is the last possible person that springs to mind when that comes into play.


    Only possible explanations:









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    Default Re: Post your list in this thread prior to arguing with someone else's

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by frankenfrank View Post
    Those who argue about other people's validity of lists and don't post their own do not worth a reply . Honestly , in these boards , most replies don't worth a reply anyway .

    Here R some more of my rankings :
    h2h ranking of d (super)heavyweight division :
    1. Nicolay Valuev
    2. Oliver McCall
    3. George Foreman
    4. Vitali Klitschko
    5. David Tua
    6. Tony Tucker
    7. Evander Holyfield
    8. Lennox Lewis
    9. Ike Ibeabuchi
    10. Larry Holmes

    11. Mike Tyson
    12. Riddick Bowe
    13. Lamon Brewster
    14. Ross Puritty
    15. James Douglas
    16. James Smith
    17. Wladimir Klitschko
    18. Joe Frazier
    19. Joe Louis
    20. Henry Akinwande


    21. Jameel McCline
    22. Chris Byrd
    23. Ron Lyle
    24. Earnie Shavers
    25. Jimmy Young
    26. David Haye
    27. Sultan Ibragimov
    28. Dominick Guinn
    29. Joe Mesi
    30. Michael Grant

    31. George Chuvalo
    32. Bob Cleroux
    33. Tony Tubbs
    34. Kirk Johnson
    35. Larry Donald
    36. James Tillis
    37. Jesse Fergusson
    38. Bert Cooper
    39. Ray Mercer
    40. Orlin Norris

    41. Pinklon Thomas
    42. Michael Dokes
    43. Carl Williams



    I will not reply 2 any1 whom didn't post his alternative list .
    My top 10 list of HW's is this.

    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. George Foreman
    4. Joe Frazier
    5. Evander Holyfield
    6. Lennox Lewis
    7. Gene Tunney
    8. Larry Holmes
    9. Jack Dempsey
    10. Rocky Marciano

    But now back to your list. You have Valuev as number 1? Is it reverse order of people to hold a HW title? In fact no it can't be as there are the odd decent name scattered here and there. But Oliver McCall number 2? For what? To be a great boxer you must have great mental strength and McCall is the last possible person that springs to mind when that comes into play.


    Only possible explanations:









    Theres some deserving people on the list even Valuev , having Valuev no 1 makes David Haye look fantastic.
    Last edited by Andre; 08-02-2012 at 02:50 AM.
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    Just a troll or a regular with a second identity having fun. Come on, carry on, there is nothing to seeeeeee hheeerrrrreeeeee.
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    Default Re: Post your list in this thread prior to arguing with someone else's

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by frankenfrank View Post
    Those who argue about other people's validity of lists and don't post their own do not worth a reply . Honestly , in these boards , most replies don't worth a reply anyway .

    Here R some more of my rankings :
    h2h ranking of d (super)heavyweight division :
    1. Nicolay Valuev
    2. Oliver McCall
    3. George Foreman
    4. Vitali Klitschko
    5. David Tua
    6. Tony Tucker
    7. Evander Holyfield
    8. Lennox Lewis
    9. Ike Ibeabuchi
    10. Larry Holmes

    11. Mike Tyson
    12. Riddick Bowe
    13. Lamon Brewster
    14. Ross Puritty
    15. James Douglas
    16. James Smith
    17. Wladimir Klitschko
    18. Joe Frazier
    19. Joe Louis
    20. Henry Akinwande


    21. Jameel McCline
    22. Chris Byrd
    23. Ron Lyle
    24. Earnie Shavers
    25. Jimmy Young
    26. David Haye
    27. Sultan Ibragimov
    28. Dominick Guinn
    29. Joe Mesi
    30. Michael Grant

    31. George Chuvalo
    32. Bob Cleroux
    33. Tony Tubbs
    34. Kirk Johnson
    35. Larry Donald
    36. James Tillis
    37. Jesse Fergusson
    38. Bert Cooper
    39. Ray Mercer
    40. Orlin Norris

    41. Pinklon Thomas
    42. Michael Dokes
    43. Carl Williams



    I will not reply 2 any1 whom didn't post his alternative list .
    My top 10 list of HW's is this.

    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. George Foreman
    4. Joe Frazier
    5. Evander Holyfield
    6. Lennox Lewis
    7. Gene Tunney
    8. Larry Holmes
    9. Jack Dempsey
    10. Rocky Marciano

    But now back to your list. You have Valuev as number 1? Is it reverse order of people to hold a HW title? In fact no it can't be as there are the odd decent name scattered here and there. But Oliver McCall number 2? For what? To be a great boxer you must have great mental strength and McCall is the last possible person that springs to mind when that comes into play.
    McCall TKOd a prime Lennox Lewis in 2 and KOd Henry Akinwande in 10 .
    He also did better than prime Tyson vs a prime Douglas by competitively lasting d distance with him .
    Then he also did better than prime Douglas vs Tony Tucker by lasting d distance with him and i doubt if he deserved 2 lose 2 Norris & Tucker .
    McCall also KOd Maskaev in 1 and stopped d overrated Bruce Seldon (i don't count Seldon because i don't think much of him , but i know that some of u do) . Also stopped d sometimes overr8ed Francesco Damiani .

    Another thing is that Tyson achieved almost if not every 1 of his big wins by cheating . elbows that is .
    2 remove d padding from d gloves is a crime , but 2 intentionally and repeatedly accurately hit ppl with elbows is fine . As long as 1's d superstar that is .

    McCall was avoided by Riddick Bowe and i'm certain he would have given him his toughest fight even in McCall's worst day .

    McCall had withdrawal syndrome in Lewis #2 , and if that was not 2b d case , Lewis would have never signed d contract 4 a rematch .

    Valuev and McCall r interchangable . In a way BBG and Vitali R also interchangable .
    D top 4 i consider on a level in itself , then Tua , then d level below Tua .
    My ranking is h2h based , not sex appeal based like other ppl's .
    Nor it is a mix of other ppl's lists like other ppl do .
    D least i can have Valuev is #4 .
    But i can not bare having him outside of d top 10 , because not only that he was never stopped 4 any reason , he was not even floored 1ce in his entire career .

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    Default Re: Post your list in this thread prior to arguing with someone else's

    Quote Originally Posted by frankenfrank View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by frankenfrank View Post
    Those who argue about other people's validity of lists and don't post their own do not worth a reply . Honestly , in these boards , most replies don't worth a reply anyway .

    Here R some more of my rankings :
    h2h ranking of d (super)heavyweight division :
    1. Nicolay Valuev
    2. Oliver McCall
    3. George Foreman
    4. Vitali Klitschko
    5. David Tua
    6. Tony Tucker
    7. Evander Holyfield
    8. Lennox Lewis
    9. Ike Ibeabuchi
    10. Larry Holmes

    11. Mike Tyson
    12. Riddick Bowe
    13. Lamon Brewster
    14. Ross Puritty
    15. James Douglas
    16. James Smith
    17. Wladimir Klitschko
    18. Joe Frazier
    19. Joe Louis
    20. Henry Akinwande


    21. Jameel McCline
    22. Chris Byrd
    23. Ron Lyle
    24. Earnie Shavers
    25. Jimmy Young
    26. David Haye
    27. Sultan Ibragimov
    28. Dominick Guinn
    29. Joe Mesi
    30. Michael Grant

    31. George Chuvalo
    32. Bob Cleroux
    33. Tony Tubbs
    34. Kirk Johnson
    35. Larry Donald
    36. James Tillis
    37. Jesse Fergusson
    38. Bert Cooper
    39. Ray Mercer
    40. Orlin Norris

    41. Pinklon Thomas
    42. Michael Dokes
    43. Carl Williams



    I will not reply 2 any1 whom didn't post his alternative list .
    My top 10 list of HW's is this.

    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. George Foreman
    4. Joe Frazier
    5. Evander Holyfield
    6. Lennox Lewis
    7. Gene Tunney
    8. Larry Holmes
    9. Jack Dempsey
    10. Rocky Marciano

    But now back to your list. You have Valuev as number 1? Is it reverse order of people to hold a HW title? In fact no it can't be as there are the odd decent name scattered here and there. But Oliver McCall number 2? For what? To be a great boxer you must have great mental strength and McCall is the last possible person that springs to mind when that comes into play.
    McCall TKOd a prime Lennox Lewis in 2 and KOd Henry Akinwande in 10 .
    He also did better than prime Tyson vs a prime Douglas by competitively lasting d distance with him .
    Then he also did better than prime Douglas vs Tony Tucker by lasting d distance with him and i doubt if he deserved 2 lose 2 Norris & Tucker .
    McCall also KOd Maskaev in 1 and stopped d overrated Bruce Seldon (i don't count Seldon because i don't think much of him , but i know that some of u do) . Also stopped d sometimes overr8ed Francesco Damiani .

    Another thing is that Tyson achieved almost if not every 1 of his big wins by cheating . elbows that is .
    2 remove d padding from d gloves is a crime , but 2 intentionally and repeatedly accurately hit ppl with elbows is fine . As long as 1's d superstar that is .

    McCall was avoided by Riddick Bowe and i'm certain he would have given him his toughest fight even in McCall's worst day .

    McCall had withdrawal syndrome in Lewis #2 , and if that was not 2b d case , Lewis would have never signed d contract 4 a rematch .

    Valuev and McCall r interchangable . In a way BBG and Vitali R also interchangable .
    D top 4 i consider on a level in itself , then Tua , then d level below Tua .
    My ranking is h2h based , not sex appeal based like other ppl's .
    Nor it is a mix of other ppl's lists like other ppl do .
    D least i can have Valuev is #4 .
    But i can not bare having him outside of d top 10 , because not only that he was never stopped 4 any reason , he was not even floored 1ce in his entire career .
    Who is this? Hornfinger? Lefty?

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