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    Default Putting together peices: Gatti's Murder

    There is esentially no doubt in my mind this was a murder. Fact is, though... We have very little information. I just wanted to put into a thread the facts and not hearsay. So here is what I have read and heard from various news sources that have recieved their information from the Brizilian police. I'm going to post what was initially reported and what is being said now. As new things are released I will add them. I welcome anyone that has things I've missed or I am incorrect about to post them.

    INITIAL REPORTS

    Arturo Gatti's body was found face down on his bead by his wife.

    There were wounds on the back of Gatti's head.

    Gatti's neck had visible signs of trauma

    A bloody purse strap was found beside the body.

    Gatti's wife was unable to explain how she was in the residence with Gatti's dead body for over 10 hours without realizing he was dead.

    Gatti's wife taken into custody and ruled a murder with her being the only suspect.

    TODAYS REPORTS

    Gatti's death ruled a suicide

    Gatti was found hanged and suspended

    Ruled a suicide due to Gatti's wife being excluded due to not being able to lift a man Gatti's size.
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    "There is esentially no doubt in my mind this was a murder. Fact is, though... We have very little information."


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    Default Re: Putting together peices: Gatti's Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    "There is esentially no doubt in my mind this was a murder. Fact is, though... We have very little information."



    LOL, I'm speaking of he conflicting information we do have

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    Default Re: Putting together peices: Gatti's Murder

    Some of those things can be explained

    The wounds weren't deadly
    The purse strap was used in the earlier argument/row/fight
    She could have thought he was sleeping during that 10 hour stint

    Obviously it could all be bollocks and she did it.

    But the most interesting thing is they are now saying he was found hanged. If that's true it changes everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Some of those things can be explained

    The wounds weren't deadly
    The purse strap was used in the earlier argument/row/fight
    She could have thought he was sleeping during that 10 hour stint

    Obviously it could all be bollocks and she did it.

    But the most interesting thing is they are now saying he was found hanged. If that's true it changes everything.
    Indeed. I wish they'd release more information now that the "investigation" is over.
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    So many different reports coming out, if these stories don't teach people not to trust the media I don't know what will. I have never heard so many conflicting stories about someone's death
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Some of those things can be explained

    The wounds weren't deadly
    The purse strap was used in the earlier argument/row/fight
    She could have thought he was sleeping during that 10 hour stint

    Obviously it could all be bollocks and she did it.

    But the most interesting thing is they are now saying he was found hanged. If that's true it changes everything.
    Even then, the strap thing couldn't be explained that way because the marks would easily be erased by the marks of the rope much larger and deeper as a hanging body is a bit harder on the body than a purse strap. Also, they were in a hotel room, so manifestly, she would have ran around a hanging body at some point, it's not like of they did rent a mansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Some of those things can be explained

    The wounds weren't deadly
    The purse strap was used in the earlier argument/row/fight
    She could have thought he was sleeping during that 10 hour stint

    Obviously it could all be bollocks and she did it.

    But the most interesting thing is they are now saying he was found hanged. If that's true it changes everything.
    Even then, the strap thing couldn't be explained that way because the marks would easily be erased by the marks of the rope much larger and deeper as a hanging body is a bit harder on the body than a purse strap. Also, they were in a hotel room, so manifestly, she would have ran around a hanging body at some point, it's not like of they did rent a mansion.
    I was going off the initial report. It's only now they've revealed this hanging lark. The purse strap may have never been round his neck
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    There is esentially no doubt in my mind this was a murder.
    Yes, it's much easier to know what actually happened in an unusual death when you're one guy thousands of miles away reading reports on the internet rather than a team of trained, experienced criminal investigators actually on the scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    There is esentially no doubt in my mind this was a murder.
    Yes, it's much easier to know what actually happened in an unusual death when you're one guy thousands of miles away reading reports on the internet rather than a team of trained, experienced criminal investigators actually on the scene.
    I'm not gonna lie... I sense a bit of sarcasm... not sure though
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    There is esentially no doubt in my mind this was a murder.
    Yes, it's much easier to know what actually happened in an unusual death when you're one guy thousands of miles away reading reports on the internet rather than a team of trained, experienced criminal investigators actually on the scene.
    I'm not gonna lie... I sense a bit of sarcasm... not sure though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    There is esentially no doubt in my mind this was a murder.
    Yes, it's much easier to know what actually happened in an unusual death when you're one guy thousands of miles away reading reports on the internet rather than a team of trained, experienced criminal investigators actually on the scene.
    ... IN a country where police is known to do the highest briberies for 50$ us, to go all of a sudden (in the police reports at least) from lying on the floor with a stab behind the head, to find a bloody purse strap and a steak knife nearby with Gatti's blood on it to finally hung in the room by himself...

    Gatti: Questions remain | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    There is esentially no doubt in my mind this was a murder.
    Yes, it's much easier to know what actually happened in an unusual death when you're one guy thousands of miles away reading reports on the internet rather than a team of trained, experienced criminal investigators actually on the scene.
    ... IN a country where police is known to do the highest briberies for 50$ us, to go all of a sudden (in the police reports at least) from lying on the floor with a stab behind the head, to find a bloody purse strap and a steak knife nearby with Gatti's blood on it to finally hung in the room by himself...

    Gatti: Questions remain | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7
    ...I didn't want to reiterate it. Thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post

    Yes, it's much easier to know what actually happened in an unusual death when you're one guy thousands of miles away reading reports on the internet rather than a team of trained, experienced criminal investigators actually on the scene.
    ... IN a country where police is known to do the highest briberies for 50$ us, to go all of a sudden (in the police reports at least) from lying on the floor with a stab behind the head, to find a bloody purse strap and a steak knife nearby with Gatti's blood on it to finally hung in the room by himself...

    Gatti: Questions remain | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7
    ...I didn't want to reiterate it. Thank you
    Well, another twist: La police brésilienne fournit des détails - LCN - Sports

    In french: more or less: The body was found on the floor, apparently, he would have strangled himself with the strap of the purse on a 7 feet wooden stairs somewhere in the flat (not in the room, once again), it just make this history even more dubious.
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    Here it is in English, but they still haven't talked about the knife wounds to the back of the head.

    Brazilian police: Arturo Gatti hung himself from staircase more than seven feet off ground - ESPN

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