Ricky Hatton; Good Call.

I doubt he'd make more money in Vegas fighting Lazcano.

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Honestly think hatton would of been more dissapointed at seeing witter get beat on saturday than anyone else.

In witter hatton saw a retirement nest egg that would set him up long after he is finished as a pro boxer. Somewhere down the line these 2 would of met and hatton would of made more money off of fighting junior than any other light welterweight.

Now though he is pretty much between a rock and a hard place. If he fights witter in lets say a years time it`ll be not half as prosperous financially as it would of been had he of fought him on saturday. And even if hatton does dispose of junior he`ll AGAIN be accused of beating up washed up boxers.

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I think you are seriously overestimating the money Hatton would generate from Witter. Sure, it would be a lot. It wouldnt be much more than by meeting anyone else though - he already sold 50'000 tickets for fighting Lazcano. And Hatton shouldnt really woried about his finances anyway - not after the Mayweather fight at least.

Secondly Hatton's fortune is based on being the premier English fighter. If anyone were starting to doubt that claim, thinking he might not even be the best around his own weight, well, they're proven wrong by now. Without Hatton even having to step in the ring.

Finally - the retirement nest for Hatton is not Witter. It is Amir Khan.

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I doubt he'd make more money in Vegas fighting Lazcano.

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Er.......I don't mean the venue mate. I mean the fight time showing is suited to UK fans. Being NOT 4 in the morning;D

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Yeah I'm with you Saddo, even as a Ricky fan. Ricky should have been in that ring Saturday night and he would have beaten Witter worse than Bradly did IMO. I'm sure Hatton would be more keen to make the fight now but obviously the demand is down the shitter.

Ricky missed out on what could have been another great win of his career, beat a long term domestic rival in Witter and then maybe go for a big money fight again.

I can see why (if it's the case) Hatton avoided Witter after his defeat to Floyd because Witter looked brilliant againsed Harris.

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The thing is Harris was shot to hell!

Witter was calling out Hatton just for me.

I genuinely believe Ricky when he said he just wanted to prevent Witter getting minted off his name

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I know Harris was shot but Witter did seem like a totally different fighter that night from the norm. He looked a lot more powerful than normal I thought he reached his absolute peak.

If Hatton beat Witter on Sat, it would have been a great addition to his resume (even though Witters rating of no.2 was a bit much)

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Witter had the beltand was ranked no 1 or 2, simple! it would have been a good fight we all wanted to see it its not now going to happen

I am going to leave it at that Donny and we will have to disagree

Personally I would rarther see him fight Witter than Paulie I see a very easy night for Hatton against feather fisted Malignaggi

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I don't want to ignite an arguement, but Witter's ranking at No.2 (after Hatton) was more a reflection on the lack of depth in the Light Welterweight division at the moment.

People continue to complain that Ricky hasn't fought anyone since Tszyu.
But in trurth there are very few others remaining at Light Welter. Since Cotto's immigration all that remains is Paulie, Torres, Kotelnik, Witter and D-Hop.
Although Bradley can now be added to that list, it is clear that there is little flexibility in the division.
Witter demanded his hot, but in truth, what sort of a fight woulkd it make?

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The lack of depth IS the reason the Witter fight made so much sense, if Hatton had stayed at welter it wouldn't matter, but he came back down with his tail between his legs to claim his throne and it was Witter who was there waiting for him. It's the fight the majority of the fans wanted, instead they get shafted for a ppv against a washed up lightweight, that's what Ricky truly thinks of his fans.

Anyway, Saddo's spoken, that's the end of the matter;)

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Then why wasn't Witter able to reinforce his repuatation against a seemingly easy defence and force Hatton to fight him?


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Witter got beat and proved he's not on Hatton's level.
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Bradley Hatton anyone?

Even though Witter lost he is still a very good fighter. Every fighter loses sometimes and it doesnt mean hes overratted. Bradley desrves a lot of credit as does Witter. Anyone who had seen Bradley fight before could see that he was very capable of pulling off an upset. Hatton-Witter is still an interesting fight imo.

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Honestly think hatton would of been more dissapointed at seeing witter get beat on saturday than anyone else.

In witter hatton saw a retirement nest egg that would set him up long after he is finished as a pro boxer. Somewhere down the line these 2 would of met and hatton would of made more money off of fighting junior than any other light welterweight.

Now though he is pretty much between a rock and a hard place. If he fights witter in lets say a years time it`ll be not half as prosperous financially as it would of been had he of fought him on saturday. And even if hatton does dispose of junior he`ll AGAIN be accused of beating up washed up boxers.

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I think you are seriously overestimating the money Hatton would generate from Witter. Sure, it would be a lot. It wouldnt be much more than by meeting anyone else though - he already sold 50'000 tickets for fighting Lazcano. And Hatton shouldnt really woried about his finances anyway - not after the Mayweather fight at least.

Secondly Hatton's fortune is based on being the premier English fighter. If anyone were starting to doubt that claim, thinking he might not even be the best around his own weight, well, they're proven wrong by now. Without Hatton even having to step in the ring.

Finally - the retirement nest for Hatton is not Witter. It is Amir Khan.

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Khan? I think Frank Warren would rather get fucked by a dinosaur than put Khan in with Hatton mate.

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Even though Witter lost he is still a very good fighter. Every fighter loses sometimes and it doesnt mean hes overratted. Bradley desrves a lot of credit as does Witter. Anyone who had seen Bradley fight before could see that he was very capable of pulling off an upset. Hatton-Witter is still an interesting fight imo.

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Witter did nothing for large portions of the fight last saturday night.

He knew everybody was watching and it was his big night.

The ridiculously rich mega-millionaire took a slight dent to his millions payday against Lazcano to benifit his fans..

.. Or maybe the truth is HBO and Showtime, rightly, rejected the fight because it's so crap ;)

The man of the people.

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The thing is Harris was shot to hell!

Witter was calling out Hatton just for me.

I genuinely believe Ricky when he said he just wanted to prevent Witter getting minted off his name

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I know Harris was shot but Witter did seem like a totally different fighter that night from the norm. He looked a lot more powerful than normal I thought he reached his absolute peak.

If Hatton beat Witter on Sat, it would have been a great addition to his resume (even though Witters rating of no.2 was a bit much)

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I don't want to ignite an arguement, but Witter's ranking at No.2 (after Hatton) was more a reflection on the lack of depth in the Light Welterweight division at the moment.

People continue to complain that Ricky hasn't fought anyone since Tszyu.
But in trurth there are very few others remaining at Light Welter. Since Cotto's immigration all that remains is Paulie, Torres, Kotelnik, Witter and D-Hop.
Although Bradley can now be added to that list, it is clear that there is little flexibility in the division.
Witter demanded his hot, but in truth, what sort of a fight woulkd it make?

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The lack of depth IS the reason the Witter fight made so much sense, if Hatton had stayed at welter it wouldn't matter, but he came back down with his tail between his legs to claim his throne and it was Witter who was there waiting for him. It's the fight the majority of the fans wanted, instead they get shafted for a ppv against a washed up lightweight, that's what Ricky truly thinks of his fans.

Anyway, Saddo's spoken, that's the end of the matter;)

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Then why wasn't Witter able to reinforce his repuatation against a seemingly easy defence and force Hatton to fight him?


Look...
Witter got beat and proved he's not on Hatton's level.
End of.


Bradley Hatton anyone?

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Obviously Witter is out of the pecking order now, still doesn't excuse the fact he was previously avoided.

Bradley Hatton has the makings of a good fight IMO, but he's inline with Torres, Kotelnik and Paulie for a fight with Ricky and he hasn't got anything special to elevate him above the others. Since Witter lost Paulie is the main guy for Hatton to face so it's worked out well for him, let's hope Paulie puts onn a show in Manchester to make a big fight in the autumn.

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The ridiculously rich mega-millionaire took a slight dent to his millions payday against Lazcano to benifit his fans..

.. Or maybe the truth is HBO and Showtime, rightly, rejected the fight because it's so crap ;)

The man of the people.

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This is the type of thing that's put me off Hatton recently. While to be fair he's no more of a businessman than most fighters (and you certainly can't begrudge a fighter making the most of a short and dangerous career), he seems to have fabricated this public image that he's a take on anyone warrior and that fame hasn't changed him a bit. 20% same old Ricky, 80% can't stop banging on about it.

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I know Harris was shot but Witter did seem like a totally different fighter that night from the norm. He looked a lot more powerful than normal I thought he reached his absolute peak.

If Hatton beat Witter on Sat, it would have been a great addition to his resume (even though Witters rating of no.2 was a bit much)

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The lack of depth IS the reason the Witter fight made so much sense, if Hatton had stayed at welter it wouldn't matter, but he came back down with his tail between his legs to claim his throne and it was Witter who was there waiting for him. It's the fight the majority of the fans wanted, instead they get shafted for a ppv against a washed up lightweight, that's what Ricky truly thinks of his fans.

Anyway, Saddo's spoken, that's the end of the matter;)

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Then why wasn't Witter able to reinforce his repuatation against a seemingly easy defence and force Hatton to fight him?


Look...
Witter got beat and proved he's not on Hatton's level.
End of.


Bradley Hatton anyone?

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Obviously Witter is out of the pecking order now, still doesn't excuse the fact he was previously avoided.

Bradley Hatton has the makings of a good fight IMO, but he's inline with Torres, Kotelnik and Paulie for a fight with Ricky and he hasn't got anything special to elevate him above the others. Since Witter lost Paulie is the main guy for Hatton to face so it's worked out well for him, let's hope Paulie puts onn a show in Manchester to make a big fight in the autumn.

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If Hatton were to beat Malignaggi and either Torres or Bradley would you be satisfied?

If he finishes his career beating Malignaggi, Bradley, Torres and Holt would that be considered poor?

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Then why wasn't Witter able to reinforce his repuatation against a seemingly easy defence and force Hatton to fight him?


Look...
Witter got beat and proved he's not on Hatton's level.
End of.


Bradley Hatton anyone?

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Obviously Witter is out of the pecking order now, still doesn't excuse the fact he was previously avoided.

Bradley Hatton has the makings of a good fight IMO, but he's inline with Torres, Kotelnik and Paulie for a fight with Ricky and he hasn't got anything special to elevate him above the others. Since Witter lost Paulie is the main guy for Hatton to face so it's worked out well for him, let's hope Paulie puts onn a show in Manchester to make a big fight in the autumn.

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If Hatton were to beat Malignaggi and either Torres or Bradley would you be satisfied?

If he finishes his career beating Malignaggi, Bradley, Torres and Holt would that be considered poor?

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That would be a vrey good ending to his career IMO, and he could rightly claim to be one of the best LWW in history, it's what he should do as I can't see another route for him to take without taking on the WWs again.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

The ridiculously rich mega-millionaire took a slight dent to his millions payday against Lazcano to benifit his fans..

.. Or maybe the truth is HBO and Showtime, rightly, rejected the fight because it's so crap ;)

The man of the people.

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This is the type of thing that's put me off Hatton recently. While to be fair he's no more of a businessman than most fighters (and you certainly can't begrudge a fighter making the most of a short and dangerous career), he seems to have fabricated this public image that he's a take on anyone warrior and that fame hasn't changed him a bit. 20% same old Ricky, 80% can't stop banging on about it.

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Don't begrudge him his success. But it's a bit rich carrying on the "man of the people" bullshit and conning fans into believing you're taking paycuts for their sake.

Fuck the fans that buy all his PPV's too.

It's ironic the thread starter accuses Witter of only being in it for the money :rolleyes:

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Obviously Witter is out of the pecking order now, still doesn't excuse the fact he was previously avoided.

Bradley Hatton has the makings of a good fight IMO, but he's inline with Torres, Kotelnik and Paulie for a fight with Ricky and he hasn't got anything special to elevate him above the others. Since Witter lost Paulie is the main guy for Hatton to face so it's worked out well for him, let's hope Paulie puts onn a show in Manchester to make a big fight in the autumn.

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If Hatton were to beat Malignaggi and either Torres or Bradley would you be satisfied?

If he finishes his career beating Malignaggi, Bradley, Torres and Holt would that be considered poor?

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That would be a vrey good ending to his career IMO, and he could rightly claim to be one of the best LWW in history, it's what he should do as I can't see another route for him to take without taking on the WWs again.

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There's nobody left for him to fight.

He'll have to finish his career with the big names at 140 because thats all he has left to beat.

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If Hatton were to beat Malignaggi and either Torres or Bradley would you be satisfied?

If he finishes his career beating Malignaggi, Bradley, Torres and Holt would that be considered poor?

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That would be a vrey good ending to his career IMO, and he could rightly claim to be one of the best LWW in history, it's what he should do as I can't see another route for him to take without taking on the WWs again.

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There's nobody left for him to fight.

He'll have to finish his career with the big names at 140 because thats all he has left to beat.

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It's a bit of a quagmire for him to be honest, he has many fight options but it's impossible to say which route would be best for his legacy. I always felt he never cleaned out the division like he should have, yet the guys there at the moment aren't that great, with Witter out of the way and if he beats Paulie, fighting Torres and Kotelnik won't add much to that. Fighting the guys coming up like Pacman will make for an occasion, but won't add much to his legacy, unless Khan somehow dominates quickly and Hatton hangs around for him to genuinely come up in weight.

The other alternative is to take a fight he has a small chance of winning, some boxers do that;), perhaps aim for someone like Cotto. Though I'm mostly against it, from Hatton's point of view beating the only man he has lost to does make sense legacy wise, but from a fans perspective he should really earn that 2nd shot by making a genuine statement (against a highly regarded WW) rather than beating a shot lightweight followed be a decentish LWW titleholder. If he wants to be remembered as a p4p great of this era (another thing he seems obsessed with), he needs to do great things, not just take the fights he's expected to win.

After losing to Mayweather Hatton had to fight everybody.

He will take on Paulie and the other champs and he may have taken on Witter had Wiotter retained, but Witter is out of the picture now because he wasn't good enough to retain.

Thats the situation and those are the only details we can be sure of.

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Honestly think hatton would of been more dissapointed at seeing witter get beat on saturday than anyone else.

In witter hatton saw a retirement nest egg that would set him up long after he is finished as a pro boxer. Somewhere down the line these 2 would of met and hatton would of made more money off of fighting junior than any other light welterweight.

Now though he is pretty much between a rock and a hard place. If he fights witter in lets say a years time it`ll be not half as prosperous financially as it would of been had he of fought him on saturday. And even if hatton does dispose of junior he`ll AGAIN be accused of beating up washed up boxers.

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I think you are seriously overestimating the money Hatton would generate from Witter. Sure, it would be a lot. It wouldnt be much more than by meeting anyone else though - he already sold 50'000 tickets for fighting Lazcano. And Hatton shouldnt really woried about his finances anyway - not after the Mayweather fight at least.

Secondly Hatton's fortune is based on being the premier English fighter. If anyone were starting to doubt that claim, thinking he might not even be the best around his own weight, well, they're proven wrong by now. Without Hatton even having to step in the ring.

Finally - the retirement nest for Hatton is not Witter. It is Amir Khan.

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Will never happen in a million years!!

I think Ricky will be delighted with Sats result, IMO he was hoping that someone would knock Witter off his perch and save Hatton the hastle of possibly getting sparked out (not likely based on Sats form)

Witter Hatton would have been a far more fitting 'thank you' than this nonsense with Lazcano.

Im glad Im on holiday, cant be tempted to buy that shite.

So because Witter lost his stock has totally gone? Surely the other top names in the division recognised Witter as the number 2 and he should still be a name others like Kotelnik and Torres would want to face. If he beat one of two of those guys would he then be in a position again to face Hatton? This is maybe a big ask, with Witters age, and he'd have to be alot better than he was at the weekend.

But surely there is still some light at the end of the tunnel. Its just about whether, at his age, he has the ambition to fight his way back to the top (well number two).

With regards to Khan ever stepping up to fight Hatton, I would think it COULD happen if he ditches Warren. The lad has some serious ambition and he'd fight anyone tomorrow if it wasn't for Warren holding him back.

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I think Ricky will be delighted with Sats result, IMO he was hoping that someone would knock Witter off his perch and save Hatton the hastle of possibly getting sparked out (not likely based on Sats form)

Witter Hatton would have been a far more fitting 'thank you' than this nonsense with Lazcano.

Im glad Im on holiday, cant be tempted to buy that shite.

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This fight should be boycotted by all true boxing fans. Although I will probably buy it if in on the night.

1. I can afford to lose £15

2. I'm a MUG.

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So because Witter lost his stock has totally gone? Surely the other top names in the division recognised Witter as the number 2 and he should still be a name others like Kotelnik and Torres would want to face. If he beat one of two of those guys would he then be in a position again to face Hatton? This is maybe a big ask, with Witters age, and he'd have to be alot better than he was at the weekend.

But surely there is still some light at the end of the tunnel. Its just about whether, at his age, he has the ambition to fight his way back to the top (well number two).

With regards to Khan ever stepping up to fight Hatton, I would think it COULD happen if he ditches Warren. The lad has some serious ambition and he'd fight anyone tomorrow if it wasn't for Warren holding him back.

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He lost to a fighter who never fought anyone within the top fifty.

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So because Witter lost his stock has totally gone? Surely the other top names in the division recognised Witter as the number 2 and he should still be a name others like Kotelnik and Torres would want to face. If he beat one of two of those guys would he then be in a position again to face Hatton? This is maybe a big ask, with Witters age, and he'd have to be alot better than he was at the weekend.

But surely there is still some light at the end of the tunnel. Its just about whether, at his age, he has the ambition to fight his way back to the top (well number two).

With regards to Khan ever stepping up to fight Hatton, I would think it COULD happen if he ditches Warren. The lad has some serious ambition and he'd fight anyone tomorrow if it wasn't for Warren holding him back.

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He lost to a fighter who never fought anyone within the top fifty.

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Yeah I guess but still, Bradley has just shot himself up the rankings. Whether Witter just had a bad night (which seems to be a regular occurance) or not I don't know, maybe Bradley is capable of beating all of them but Hatton (maybe even Hatton) but if Junior faced Torres and Kotelnik and beat them, he is still up there as a contender.

I ain't Witters biggest fan, I'm just suggesting he may not be out of the running just yet. I'd personally love to see him and Hatton go at it. Would be a nice win on Hattons record :)

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Honestly think hatton would of been more dissapointed at seeing witter get beat on saturday than anyone else.

In witter hatton saw a retirement nest egg that would set him up long after he is finished as a pro boxer. Somewhere down the line these 2 would of met and hatton would of made more money off of fighting junior than any other light welterweight.

Now though he is pretty much between a rock and a hard place. If he fights witter in lets say a years time it`ll be not half as prosperous financially as it would of been had he of fought him on saturday. And even if hatton does dispose of junior he`ll AGAIN be accused of beating up washed up boxers.

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I think you are seriously overestimating the money Hatton would generate from Witter. Sure, it would be a lot. It wouldnt be much more than by meeting anyone else though - he already sold 50'000 tickets for fighting Lazcano. And Hatton shouldnt really woried about his finances anyway - not after the Mayweather fight at least.

Secondly Hatton's fortune is based on being the premier English fighter. If anyone were starting to doubt that claim, thinking he might not even be the best around his own weight, well, they're proven wrong by now. Without Hatton even having to step in the ring.

Finally - the retirement nest for Hatton is not Witter. It is Amir Khan.

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Will never happen in a million years!!

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Why not? The money involved would be on a completely different level than against Witter. In fact the money alone makes this a viable possibility - not this year, probably not next year either, but certainly in the years to come after that.

Sure, if Khan remains with Warren, it won't happen until they are absolutely confident, Khan will win. But with a 3-4 years perspective that isnt an impossible scenario to believe in. Personally, I dont really see Hatton carrying on more than 2-3 more years anyway.

Then the question is if Khan can lure Hatton out of retirement into a very_ lucrative one-off fight before retiring for good?

But this is kind of irrelevant to this thread. Poor old Witter, not even in the threads about him can he remain in the spotlight... ;)

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So because Witter lost his stock has totally gone? Surely the other top names in the division recognised Witter as the number 2 and he should still be a name others like Kotelnik and Torres would want to face. If he beat one of two of those guys would he then be in a position again to face Hatton? This is maybe a big ask, with Witters age, and he'd have to be alot better than he was at the weekend.

But surely there is still some light at the end of the tunnel. Its just about whether, at his age, he has the ambition to fight his way back to the top (well number two).

With regards to Khan ever stepping up to fight Hatton, I would think it COULD happen if he ditches Warren. The lad has some serious ambition and he'd fight anyone tomorrow if it wasn't for Warren holding him back.

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He lost to a fighter who never fought anyone within the top fifty.

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Yeah I guess but still, Bradley has just shot himself up the rankings. Whether Witter just had a bad night (which seems to be a regular occurance) or not I don't know, maybe Bradley is capable of beating all of them but Hatton (maybe even Hatton) but if Junior faced Torres and Kotelnik and beat them, he is still up there as a contender.

I ain't Witters biggest fan, I'm just suggesting he may not be out of the running just yet. I'd personally love to see him and Hatton go at it. Would be a nice win on Hattons record :)

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I think you touched on something very interesting there.

Bradley is a fighter who in a potential fight with Hatton, could serve to really bring the best out of Rick. He's got a rough tough style like Ben Tackie, that saw Ricky perform beautifully against in the past.

As for Junior, what can I saw. He talked it and he didn't back it up, I don't hope his careers over, but I just don't feel he was worth anythig to Rick's legacy even at his highest point.

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I think you are seriously overestimating the money Hatton would generate from Witter. Sure, it would be a lot. It wouldnt be much more than by meeting anyone else though - he already sold 50'000 tickets for fighting Lazcano. And Hatton shouldnt really woried about his finances anyway - not after the Mayweather fight at least.

Secondly Hatton's fortune is based on being the premier English fighter. If anyone were starting to doubt that claim, thinking he might not even be the best around his own weight, well, they're proven wrong by now. Without Hatton even having to step in the ring.

Finally - the retirement nest for Hatton is not Witter. It is Amir Khan.

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Will never happen in a million years!!

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Why not? The money involved would be on a completely different level than against Witter. In fact the money alone makes this a viable possibility - not this year, probably not next year either, but certainly in the years to come after that.

Sure, if Khan remains with Warren, it won't happen until they are absolutely confident, Khan will win. But with a 3-4 years perspective that isnt an impossible scenario to believe in. Personally, I dont really see Hatton carrying on more than 2-3 more years anyway.

Then the question is if Khan can lure Hatton out of retirement into a very_ lucrative one-off fight before retiring for good?

But this is kind of irrelevant to this thread. Poor old Witter, not even in the threads about him can he remain in the spotlight... ;)

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i honestly see no more 3-4 hatton outings before he calls it a day.

Lazcano and Malignaggi are naturally this years opposition, then he`ll probably look at a bout with torres in vegas one last time before a junior witter showdown late next year to end it all.

After that ricky will have nothing left to prove, he would of unified the 140 division, wont be so daft as to believe he can go up a weight again, will be desperate to retire as a champion and of course as we all know wants to become a promoter ASAP.

Khan is a respective lightweight newbie and hasnt even got himself a world title shot yet.

The chances of him dominating at lightweight and then shooting up to 140 before hatton has gone are slim to none if you ask me!!

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Will never happen in a million years!!

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Why not? The money involved would be on a completely different level than against Witter. In fact the money alone makes this a viable possibility - not this year, probably not next year either, but certainly in the years to come after that.

Sure, if Khan remains with Warren, it won't happen until they are absolutely confident, Khan will win. But with a 3-4 years perspective that isnt an impossible scenario to believe in. Personally, I dont really see Hatton carrying on more than 2-3 more years anyway.

Then the question is if Khan can lure Hatton out of retirement into a very_ lucrative one-off fight before retiring for good?

But this is kind of irrelevant to this thread. Poor old Witter, not even in the threads about him can he remain in the spotlight... ;)

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i honestly see no more 3-4 hatton outings before he calls it a day.

Lazcano and Malignaggi are naturally this years opposition, then he`ll probably look at a bout with torres in vegas one last time before a junior witter showdown late next year to end it all.

After that ricky will have nothing left to prove, he would of unified the 140 division, wont be so daft as to believe he can go up a weight again, will be desperate to retire as a champion and of course as we all know wants to become a promoter ASAP.

Khan is a respective lightweight newbie and hasnt even got himself a world title shot yet.

The chances of him dominating at lightweight and then shooting up to 140 before hatton has gone are slim to none if you ask me!!

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Ricky will NEVER fight Witter mate.

Your also forgetting the Floyd rematch at Wembley next summer :cool:

Good thread from guys from both sides not crap talking just debate... great read ;)

i will add this for the people who mentioned Witter wasnt a big money fight... did you see the crowd last sat for the witter fight it was pretty big ;)

anyhooo its by the by as now as that fight is gone but i will be intrested to see if this Hatton fight really is full regardless of the claims of 55,000+ tickets sold i think there is gonna be a few thousand unhappy touts come fight night ;)

PR is a wonderful thing dont you think :D

I think alot of people are thinking Bradley is some chump. He is a good fighter, shit I give him a fair chance to beat Hatton, if its not in England. Witter Vs. Hatton nothing was resolved between those two because they haven't fought, thats all there is to it. Just slagging off Witter because of a loss it happens everytime someone loses, its gotta be an exposure or the end for the loser....people can have bad nights. That will be proven when Paul williams rebounds and dominates Quintana. ;D

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Why not? The money involved would be on a completely different level than against Witter. In fact the money alone makes this a viable possibility - not this year, probably not next year either, but certainly in the years to come after that.

Sure, if Khan remains with Warren, it won't happen until they are absolutely confident, Khan will win. But with a 3-4 years perspective that isnt an impossible scenario to believe in. Personally, I dont really see Hatton carrying on more than 2-3 more years anyway.

Then the question is if Khan can lure Hatton out of retirement into a very_ lucrative one-off fight before retiring for good?

But this is kind of irrelevant to this thread. Poor old Witter, not even in the threads about him can he remain in the spotlight... ;)

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i honestly see no more 3-4 hatton outings before he calls it a day.

Lazcano and Malignaggi are naturally this years opposition, then he`ll probably look at a bout with torres in vegas one last time before a junior witter showdown late next year to end it all.

After that ricky will have nothing left to prove, he would of unified the 140 division, wont be so daft as to believe he can go up a weight again, will be desperate to retire as a champion and of course as we all know wants to become a promoter ASAP.

Khan is a respective lightweight newbie and hasnt even got himself a world title shot yet.

The chances of him dominating at lightweight and then shooting up to 140 before hatton has gone are slim to none if you ask me!!

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Ricky will NEVER fight Witter mate.

Your also forgetting the Floyd rematch at Wembley next summer :cool:

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I really, really hope that doesn't happen :-\.

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Even though Witter lost he is still a very good fighter. Every fighter loses sometimes and it doesnt mean hes overratted. Bradley desrves a lot of credit as does Witter. Anyone who had seen Bradley fight before could see that he was very capable of pulling off an upset. Hatton-Witter is still an interesting fight imo.

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Please give me an example of when he has shown this?

Other than Vivian Harris who is/was probably even more over-rated than Witter.

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Good thread from guys from both sides not crap talking just debate... great read ;)

i will add this for the people who mentioned Witter wasnt a big money fight... did you see the crowd last sat for the witter fight it was pretty big ;)

anyhooo its by the by as now as that fight is gone but i will be intrested to see if this Hatton fight really is full regardless of the claims of 55,000+ tickets sold i think there is gonna be a few thousand unhappy touts come fight night ;)

PR is a wonderful thing dont you think :D

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Do you not think that was because the fight was in Nottingham and the fans were there to see Carl Froch? Remember the fans bought the tickets on the understanding that Froch was fighting a WBC title elimintator against Dennis Inkin

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i honestly see no more 3-4 hatton outings before he calls it a day.

Lazcano and Malignaggi are naturally this years opposition, then he`ll probably look at a bout with torres in vegas one last time before a junior witter showdown late next year to end it all.

After that ricky will have nothing left to prove, he would of unified the 140 division, wont be so daft as to believe he can go up a weight again, will be desperate to retire as a champion and of course as we all know wants to become a promoter ASAP.

Khan is a respective lightweight newbie and hasnt even got himself a world title shot yet.

The chances of him dominating at lightweight and then shooting up to 140 before hatton has gone are slim to none if you ask me!!

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Ricky will NEVER fight Witter mate.

Your also forgetting the Floyd rematch at Wembley next summer :cool:

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I for one wouldnt mind seeing it.

Ricky has that hunger and desire burning within him that very few fighters are able to demonstrate as well as him.

If its the tszyu hatton that fights floyd mayweather i can honestly see him winning with a stoppage.

floyd is a great great fighter make no mistake about it - but anyone that can claim the guy doesnt have flaws that can be exploited is just crazy.

When it comes to 2 men fighting on the inside, nobody in the 147 division would be able to match hatton!!

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Even though Witter lost he is still a very good fighter. Every fighter loses sometimes and it doesnt mean hes overratted. Bradley desrves a lot of credit as does Witter. Anyone who had seen Bradley fight before could see that he was very capable of pulling off an upset. Hatton-Witter is still an interesting fight imo.

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Please give me an example of when he has shown this?

Other than Vivian Harris who is/was probably even more over-rated than Witter.

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i will add this for the people who mentioned Witter wasnt a big money fight... did you see the crowd last sat for the witter fight it was pretty big ;)

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That's only because he TELLS everyone he's the best in the world, and they all turned up to see it for thereselves lol sadly they were all let down.

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i honestly see no more 3-4 hatton outings before he calls it a day.

Lazcano and Malignaggi are naturally this years opposition, then he`ll probably look at a bout with torres in vegas one last time before a junior witter showdown late next year to end it all.

After that ricky will have nothing left to prove, he would of unified the 140 division, wont be so daft as to believe he can go up a weight again, will be desperate to retire as a champion and of course as we all know wants to become a promoter ASAP.

Khan is a respective lightweight newbie and hasnt even got himself a world title shot yet.

The chances of him dominating at lightweight and then shooting up to 140 before hatton has gone are slim to none if you ask me!!

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Ricky will NEVER fight Witter mate.

Your also forgetting the Floyd rematch at Wembley next summer :cool:

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Me neither really.. I honestly cant see Ricky ever beating Floyd, so a rematch would just make him more of a disgrace in the publics eye with another loss(not that I see him as a disgrace, but everyone knows how ignorant 'fans' can be). Same with DLH, why is he bothering with a rematch, does anyone actually see Oscar having a chance?

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Ricky will NEVER fight Witter mate.

Your also forgetting the Floyd rematch at Wembley next summer :cool:

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I for one wouldnt mind seeing it.

Ricky has that hunger and desire burning within him that very few fighters are able to demonstrate as well as him.

If its the tszyu hatton that fights floyd mayweather i can honestly see him winning with a stoppage.

floyd is a great great fighter make no mistake about it - but anyone that can claim the guy doesnt have flaws that can be exploited is just crazy.

When it comes to 2 men fighting on the inside, nobody in the 147 division would be able to match hatton!!

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What the hell have you been smoking? Urango was more than a match for Hatton on the inside and he's a b-level fighter. Mayweather was doing way better than Hatton on the inside.

Hatton has proven ability to overpower some guys where he has a strength advantage, he also displyed good in and out boxing against guys like Tackie and first 6 rounds against Urango when he had to cos he can't overpower everyone at 140 let alone 147 (sure that wasn't a typo?).
As I mentioned previously, Hatton did nothing in the first fight to warrant a rematch, if he wants one he should earn it against decent WWs, but luckily for Ricky, Floyd has shown recently he's no longer interested in fighting dangerous opposition making another farce sadly inevitable.

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I think you are seriously overestimating the money Hatton would generate from Witter. Sure, it would be a lot. It wouldnt be much more than by meeting anyone else though - he already sold 50'000 tickets for fighting Lazcano. And Hatton shouldnt really woried about his finances anyway - not after the Mayweather fight at least.

Secondly Hatton's fortune is based on being the premier English fighter. If anyone were starting to doubt that claim, thinking he might not even be the best around his own weight, well, they're proven wrong by now. Without Hatton even having to step in the ring.

Finally - the retirement nest for Hatton is not Witter. It is Amir Khan.

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Why not? The money involved would be on a completely different level than against Witter. In fact the money alone makes this a viable possibility - not this year, probably not next year either, but certainly in the years to come after that.

Sure, if Khan remains with Warren, it won't happen until they are absolutely confident, Khan will win. But with a 3-4 years perspective that isnt an impossible scenario to believe in. Personally, I dont really see Hatton carrying on more than 2-3 more years anyway.

Then the question is if Khan can lure Hatton out of retirement into a very_ lucrative one-off fight before retiring for good?

But this is kind of irrelevant to this thread. Poor old Witter, not even in the threads about him can he remain in the spotlight... ;)

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Khan has to worry about Lightweight division first, he is in a very strong division at the moment, and i can't see him beating most of the elite Lightweights.

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I really, really hope that doesn't happen :-\.

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I for one wouldnt mind seeing it.

Ricky has that hunger and desire burning within him that very few fighters are able to demonstrate as well as him.

If its the tszyu hatton that fights floyd mayweather i can honestly see him winning with a stoppage.

floyd is a great great fighter make no mistake about it - but anyone that can claim the guy doesnt have flaws that can be exploited is just crazy.

When it comes to 2 men fighting on the inside, nobody in the 147 division would be able to match hatton!!

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What the hell have you been smoking? Urango was more than a match for Hatton on the inside and he's a b-level fighter. Mayweather was doing way better than Hatton on the inside.

Hatton has proven ability to overpower some guys where he has a strength advantage, he also displyed good in and out boxing against guys like Tackie and first 6 rounds against Urango when he had to cos he can't overpower everyone at 140 let alone 147 (sure that wasn't a typo?).
As I mentioned previously, Hatton did nothing in the first fight to warrant a rematch, if he wants one he should earn it against decent WWs, but luckily for Ricky, Floyd has shown recently he's no longer interested in fighting dangerous opposition making another farce sadly inevitable.

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urango got soundly beaten BECAUSE he had no way of matching hattons workrate and his main attribute just happened to be hattons who was much much better at it.

To use urango as an example is baseless. Hatton hasnt had to go to war with anyone since he fought tszyu and when he did try to against floyd he got stopped every time.

As for floyd being busier on the inside???

If you count ducking and springing up with an overhand every time they clenched then you may be right. Thats not what i call fighting on the "inside" and however hard ricky tried to turn the fight into a battle it got broken up.

You stick floyd in wembley stadium, with a medium sized ring and a ref like micky vann and you take mayweather out of his comfort zone and turn the tables completely into hattons favour.

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I for one wouldnt mind seeing it.

Ricky has that hunger and desire burning within him that very few fighters are able to demonstrate as well as him.

If its the tszyu hatton that fights floyd mayweather i can honestly see him winning with a stoppage.

floyd is a great great fighter make no mistake about it - but anyone that can claim the guy doesnt have flaws that can be exploited is just crazy.

When it comes to 2 men fighting on the inside, nobody in the 147 division would be able to match hatton!!

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What the hell have you been smoking? Urango was more than a match for Hatton on the inside and he's a b-level fighter. Mayweather was doing way better than Hatton on the inside.

Hatton has proven ability to overpower some guys where he has a strength advantage, he also displyed good in and out boxing against guys like Tackie and first 6 rounds against Urango when he had to cos he can't overpower everyone at 140 let alone 147 (sure that wasn't a typo?).
As I mentioned previously, Hatton did nothing in the first fight to warrant a rematch, if he wants one he should earn it against decent WWs, but luckily for Ricky, Floyd has shown recently he's no longer interested in fighting dangerous opposition making another farce sadly inevitable.

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urango got soundly beaten BECAUSE he had no way of matching hattons workrate and his main attribute just happened to be hattons who was much much better at it.

To use urango as an example is baseless. Hatton hasnt had to go to war with anyone since he fought tszyu and when he did try to against floyd he got stopped every time.

As for floyd being busier on the inside???

If you count ducking and springing up with an overhand every time they clenched then you may be right. Thats not what i call fighting on the "inside" and however hard ricky tried to turn the fight into a battle it got broken up.

You stick floyd in wembley stadium, with a medium sized ring and a ref like micky vann and you take mayweather out of his comfort zone and turn the tables completely into hattons favour.

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And what exactly was Hatton doing on the inside when they were allowed to? he certainly wasn't throwing any punches, and that goes for the later rounds against the inexperienced Urango as well.

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What the hell have you been smoking? Urango was more than a match for Hatton on the inside and he's a b-level fighter. Mayweather was doing way better than Hatton on the inside.

Hatton has proven ability to overpower some guys where he has a strength advantage, he also displyed good in and out boxing against guys like Tackie and first 6 rounds against Urango when he had to cos he can't overpower everyone at 140 let alone 147 (sure that wasn't a typo?).
As I mentioned previously, Hatton did nothing in the first fight to warrant a rematch, if he wants one he should earn it against decent WWs, but luckily for Ricky, Floyd has shown recently he's no longer interested in fighting dangerous opposition making another farce sadly inevitable.

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urango got soundly beaten BECAUSE he had no way of matching hattons workrate and his main attribute just happened to be hattons who was much much better at it.

To use urango as an example is baseless. Hatton hasnt had to go to war with anyone since he fought tszyu and when he did try to against floyd he got stopped every time.

As for floyd being busier on the inside???

If you count ducking and springing up with an overhand every time they clenched then you may be right. Thats not what i call fighting on the "inside" and however hard ricky tried to turn the fight into a battle it got broken up.

You stick floyd in wembley stadium, with a medium sized ring and a ref like micky vann and you take mayweather out of his comfort zone and turn the tables completely into hattons favour.

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And what exactly was Hatton doing on the inside when they were allowed to? he certainly wasn't throwing any punches, and that goes for the later rounds against the inexperienced Urango as well.

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Whatever he did, it saw him win 11/12 rounds.