So does Palin take the weekend gig on SNL to play her self now ??? Mccain had a real minute their.......deep
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So does Palin take the weekend gig on SNL to play her self now ??? Mccain had a real minute their.......deep
Viva funyans
I imagine that the shine is going to come off this election fairly fast when having a black president doesn't matter to people who can't afford their house. With that being said, it's reassuring that the US at least realizes it's important to change. Amazing how close elections are, I thought this should have never been close and that 2004 should have never been close but oh well.
Fuck me a black man now holds the most powerful office in the world.
At least he's not gay I guess
For months Bilbo has been arrogantly asserting that the US people were beneath voting a black guy named Barack Obama in but they did and now that is all you say? Please pretend to know about America some more on this thread. I'd neg rep you if I had the chance, not that I'm vindicated or anything just that I wanto neg rep you.
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Originally Posted by amat
Why do you not have a chance to neg rep me?
Just spread some around and get to it.
As for voting in Obama, I'll give them credit, they chose the best candidate and didn't let race interfere. They also didn't rig the election so it's all cool.
Obama definitely seemed like the best candidate, not old and senile, not a warmongerer and of course most importanly of all not another Republican.
George Dubya's presidancy was a catastrophy so at least they didn't vote in another one of those guys.
I hope Obama does a great job.
I honestly thought Morgan Freeman would be the first black President.
The biggest mistake McCain made was that he stopped being this so called Maverick that he claimed to be and he began sucking Bush's stick and drinking Bush's koolaid ;D. Voting 90% of the time in favor of the Bush doctrine hardly makes one a Maverick. With that being said, McCain was still a Maverick but he was always hanging out at the George W Bush's Prairie Chapel Ranch ;D McCain might not have bared the brand of W but he was marked none the less.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboQuote:
Originally Posted by amat
Why do you not have a chance to neg rep me?
Just spread some around and get to it.
As for voting in Obama, I'll give them credit, they chose the best candidate and didn't let race interfere. They also didn't rig the election so it's all cool.
Obama definitely seemed like the best candidate, not old and senile, not a warmongerer and of course most importanly of all not another Republican.
George Dubya's presidancy was a catastrophy so at least they didn't vote in another one of those guys.
I hope Obama does a great job.
I honestly thought Morgan Freeman would be the first black President.
Sarah Palin was another huge mistake ;)
I think the economy was the final nail in the coffin.
The only reason that Obama did not win by an even bigger margin was the fact that he was black and had no real experience but being black was the biggest factor.
McCain's negative campaigning turned many people off.
I think I could be here all night talking about all the mistakes McCain made ;D
Anyway... I am very happy Obama won, this brings hope to the rest of us in America, us being the non whites of course. ;D
And BTW this was very historic. I am once again proud to be an American. lol
Congrats to America, his speech was excellent to say the least. Easily the best speech I have been able to witness. But this conjures up parallel's to past presidents/leaders which offered hope, only to be shot. Will you guys not kill him this time? I sure as hell hope not as he has bought such hope and positivity to a country, that a million people came to listen to that unbelievable speech.
I wish Australia would elect someone who had some charisma, instead we get Rudd :-\
That is my concern :( We have 150 million people who did not want Obama as our new president :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty
It's was pretty predictable Diane.Quote:
Originally Posted by DianeOh Jesus, give it a rest already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
I can't believe you had to bring Pac into this thread. :furious2:
What does this mean to the Americans then?Is it great news?If so tell me a bit why?Im a bit interested:cool:
It means the same thing as all the elections that happen in America. Half the people think it's great news and are really excited. Half are scared out of their minds as to what the next four years holds.Quote:
Originally Posted by yvonne
Exactly, 150 million people are angry as phuk ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheepIt means the same thing as all the elections that happen in America. Half the people think it's great news and are really excited. Half are scared out of their minds as to what the next four years holds.Quote:
Originally Posted by yvonne
John McCain showed his real colors last night, he bowed down and supported Obama, John McCain should have run a cleaner election but his weakness is and was the economy so he really had no leg to stand on, I still think that had he just faked the funk from the begining and just stuck with talking about the economy and not try and change the subject with things such as lip stick on a pig, Bill Ayers, Rev Wright and Sarah's race bating, McCain could have won. His negative campaign turned people off and it felt as though we were going backwards and not moving forward. Sadly, half of our country is still stuck in the past but this was a huge step for people who had lost faith in America. This is DEEP! :D Change takes time. ;)
is a great day
I'm badly hungover
I have no doubt that Mccain is the most progressive Republican out there, but the fact that he bowed to the old guard on the same old Republican campaign strategy showed more than anything IMO that he isn't truly a leader, not at this late stage of his life anyway.
Here's to Obama.
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
Hey bro,
The greedy bankers that Obama took tons of money from? The one's he voted to bail out? Obama is related to Bush. You don't get put in a position to win unless you are a good old boy. Don't believe the hype. Obama isn't "one of us" one of the regular people. He's in on it or he wouldn't have been nominated.
Nice pic though.
Notice how the popular vote was split, but not the electoral? Do you really think your vote counts?
Of course people's votes count, you may not like the electoral college system but its determined by states which is determined by how people of each state vote, its not rocket science.
I guess I'm just not cynical enough, how anybody after 8 fucking years of George Bush could think there was still no difference between Republicans and Democrats is beyond me, its just inane.
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
Do some research and you will see. There's differences but minor. Both supported bailing out the banks. Both support the same corporate influences. It's all about money. Don't believe the hype Obama is a good old boy. He's a member of the council on foreign relations.
Inane is probably better represented by the word insane. There is a huge difference between Republican and Democrat, its just that the significant minority of the populace is just too ignorant and stupid to care.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Thank god, a significant few noticed the difference this time out to make that difference.
As for luvfightgame, you seem like a bit of a dick. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Danny_GExactly, 150 million people are angry as phuk ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheepIt means the same thing as all the elections that happen in America. Half the people think it's great news and are really excited. Half are scared out of their minds as to what the next four years holds.Quote:
Originally Posted by yvonne
John McCain showed his real colors last night, he bowed down and supported Obama, John McCain should have run a cleaner election but his weakness is and was the economy so he really had no leg to stand on, I still think that had he just faked the funk from the begining and just stuck with talking about the economy and not try and change the subject with things such as lip stick on a pig, Bill Ayers, Rev Wright and Sarah's race bating, McCain could have won. His negative campaign turned people off and it felt as though we were going backwards and not moving forward. Sadly, half of our country is still stuck in the past but this was a huge step for people who had lost faith in America. This is DEEP! :D Change takes time. ;)
I hope all is well then in the future!If he sticks to his plans and does a good job then he can come over to england and sort this fuckking fucked up country!!!!!!!!:oPeace!
Do some research?Quote:
Originally Posted by luvfightgameQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Do some research and you will see. There's differences but minor. Both supported bailing out the banks. Both support the same corporate influences. It's all about money. Don't believe the hype Obama is a good old boy. He's a member of the council on foreign relations.
Differences are minor?
No the differences are not minor, there are major differences on foreign policy, economic policy, social issues, everything.
I guess its cool to be apathetic about the whole thing, good for you, but this is just too fucking stupid to even argue about.
Does not matter who wins, it won't change a thing.
This is a serious change Kel. It will probably see a lot of changes within the US and a serious response from the world at large. I cannot wait to see how the ball starts rolling. And it is desperately needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
How major? Afganistan or Iraq. Either way it's keep us at war.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFanDo some research?Quote:
Originally Posted by luvfightgameQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Do some research and you will see. There's differences but minor. Both supported bailing out the banks. Both support the same corporate influences. It's all about money. Don't believe the hype Obama is a good old boy. He's a member of the council on foreign relations.
Differences are minor?
No the differences are not minor, there are major differences on foreign policy, economic policy, social issues, everything.
I guess its cool to be apathetic about the whole thing, good for you, but this is just too fucking stupid to even argue about.
How involved was Obama in fannie mae? Did he get tons of money from them? Duh? If you're "nominated" by the 2 party system you are a part of it. By the way the health care benefits he's promising are impossible. We are bankrupt. And worse yet we have the baby boomer retirement coming that crashes the stock market, bankrupts social security and medicare. Haven't heard that one addressed at all.
I'm not apethetic, i'm disgusted with so many stupid people in this country. We are so far gone and fools keep voting for one of the 2 idiots promoted by the media?????
We should have been replaying the boston tea party years ago. Just follow your new leader. He will change things?????:bowdown:
Keep being niave. Boxing judges are always fair. Wars are always for righteous causes, and politics aren't corrupt.
What are you talking about, Obama made his campaign on not supporting the war and calling for a pullout.
The democrats in Congress at the time of the decision to go to war in Iraq were cowards politically, they still are, all politicians are, but they are the lesser of the two evils. I don't see how anyone can not see that, its nice to be ideologically pure and never compromise but that's for teenagers.
Do you really think that we would have gone to war in Iraq (not Afghanistan) if Al Gore had been president? If you do you're out to lunch.
And the idea that because Obama supported the bailout there is no difference between the two parties economically is again simpleminded. That is one issue, not the entire issue. If you think spend a shitload of money and lower taxes is a good plan, good for you.
I guess there's just a simple difference here, I don't see a point in just sitting back and whining because everything is not perfect, of course politics is corrupt, it is everywhere, but there are lesser evils. I was wrong in calling you cynical, you clearly are not cynical.
There's no point in arguing about this anymore, we are obviously of completely different minds.
Obama is related to Cheeney not Bush.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
Hey bro,
The greedy bankers that Obama took tons of money from? The one's he voted to bail out? Obama is related to Bush. You don't get put in a position to win unless you are a good old boy. Don't believe the hype. Obama isn't "one of us" one of the regular people. He's in on it or he wouldn't have been nominated.
Nice pic though.
Notice how the popular vote was split, but not the electoral? Do you really think your vote counts?
I guess we shall soon see how deep this rabbit hole goes. If there are no real significant changes in the first year such as ending the war in Iraq, releasing the prisoners of Guantanamo Bay, I would also like to see a revision of the patriot act so that it restpects our freedom and constitution and does not betray our Bill of Rights. ;)
while i agree that some votes "don't count" Obama still won the popular vote.. It's unfair that in a state that is 51/49 that the 49% doesn't really count towards the person voted for.. but that's the system.. At least there was a clear cut winner..
hurray for Osama.......
i mean Obama :p
Im looking forward to the changes coming about, it shows forward thinking and being opened minded as a people..
McCain never had a shot ad the way things went was really indicative that the american people spoke loud and clear about who they saw fit to lead us forward
Where's Lyle? What does Lyle have to say about this?
Yeah, well lets just hope he has that magic wand everyone seems to think he has :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Your joking right? You know how our government works? You are aware the Democrats have the Senate majority and can pass bill instead of Bush vetoing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
They're short of the number they need to prevent a filibuster though, aren't they?Quote:
Originally Posted by No ContestYour joking right? You know how our government works? You are aware the Democrats have the Senate majority and can pass bill instead of Bush vetoing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
Am I supposed to congratulate him or something? Mr. Obama will be picking up a lot of mess left by his predecessor. The economic situation looks real bad and nobody knows exactly where it is headed toward; the situation looks as cloudy as it can be. Make no mistake about it, folks, the US will be really feeling the effects the economic turmoil in the coming months.
...and did I hear him say he's gonna tax someone? jeez, that's bad because you don't do that in times of recession, but instead, you encourage the consumers and the producers (the business folks) to increase their activities, never discourage them with a tax during hard times...
We do but we don't. If his name was Jamal Jones and he was from Saginaw, MI with an associate's from a community college he would have gotten nowhere. But then again, the same would be true had he been white. Surface-judging is American as apple pie.Quote:
Originally Posted by bcollinsI really hope this is a sign that the people of our country are starting to keep an open mind, at least a little. This is important for more than the usual political reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Why are you white guys so focused on black men's penises??? Sheesh!Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONYeah, well lets just hope he has that magic wand everyone seems to think he has :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
I think there 1 or 2 senate races asking for recounts, I know the minnesota one is still in the air.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHThey're short of the number they need to prevent a filibuster though, aren't they?Quote:
Originally Posted by No ContestYour joking right? You know how our government works? You are aware the Democrats have the Senate majority and can pass bill instead of Bush vetoing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
:rotflmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by KillfaceWhy are you white guys so focused on black men's penises??? Sheesh!Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONYeah, well lets just hope he has that magic wand everyone seems to think he has :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Have to say,In my morning dealings it is like Christmas morning around here.People in general are really optimistic and looking ahead and yes,their are a few that have a bitter bite to them with the outcome.I have reservations as it pertains to Obama's experience and willingness to commit to some hard choices but the Citizens have spoken.......He's our President and I respect him as such.He will be watched very closely by many and be called to the floor when he fawks up.If any thing Government should fear the people,not the other way around.
We need to get our shit in order here in the States,we have a mess economically,internationally and frankly need to stop looking back wards,finger pointing, and move forward.Also....I think that was the real McCain last night in that speech,The GOP got to him after 2000,and I think he got away from his individuality,Independent nature.He showed class last night.
And can we officially call the Palin 15 minutes as over.She is a fukking human comic strip,carry your arse back to Alaska.
Well done Barack but i have to say, all this talk of the first black president is bollocks.
Has no one seen Deep Impact?