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Hate to be that guy ;D but how was this not the intended path all along and predictable. I've seen so many people talking about "Scull who" and glossing over it's the very same Scull who the Ibf ordered on Canelo last year, but the belt got dropped by Canelo for a Berlanga match. Shit is priceless. Canelo forfeits the belt (or is stripped depending on what you believe), lets Scull literally hold it for a while and now suddenly Scull is worthy because he holds the trinket, Canelo needs a date and "well he's a champion at least" ;D. They are looking at this as a glorified tune up w/ benefits. It's all about the hardware on display. The marketing of yelling "Canelo multi time undisputed" going into his next fight as such. Opponent is secondary and I'm sure Scull is a nice guy.
Bigger issues with Turki I think and the whole gamesmanship with Paul involved as a swerve. Set the bar low once again to point of fan backlash with Jake Paul circus, fake announcements and all this misinformation put out by Turki, the Ring and all involved only to reach some midnight earth shaking deal. They lied on Eddie and said the fight was flat off. Lied on Boots Ennis in the process saying he was facing Bud. Now everyone's like "at least it's not Jake Paul" in May. It's all very rinse and repeat. On a side, when do we announce dates and specific time frames left wide open like this. A four-fight deal and the only one I'm certain of is now Scull. Meanwhile Bud sits on the bench inactive over another year waiting on September. It just feels all very backwards. If anything, wtf isn't Bud fighting Scull to at least bring a belt to the table?! Quite the circus of its own doing.
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Crawford is wrapped in cotton wool, training in the gym, putting on some weight and ready for slaughter in September. There is no risk of him facing anyone in the interim.
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Hate to be that guy ;D but how was this not the intended path all along and predictable. I've seen so many people talking about "Scull who" and glossing over it's the very same Scull who the Ibf ordered on Canelo last year, but the belt got dropped by Canelo for a Berlanga match. Shit is priceless. Canelo forfeits the belt (or is stripped depending on what you believe), lets Scull literally hold it for a while and now suddenly Scull is worthy because he holds the trinket, Canelo needs a date and "well he's a champion at least" ;D. They are looking at this as a glorified tune up w/ benefits. It's all about the hardware on display. The marketing of yelling "Canelo multi time undisputed" going into his next fight as such. Opponent is secondary and I'm sure Scull is a nice guy.
Bigger issues with Turki I think and the whole gamesmanship with Paul involved as a swerve. Set the bar low once again to point of fan backlash with Jake Paul circus, fake announcements and all this misinformation put out by Turki, the Ring and all involved only to reach some midnight earth shaking deal. They lied on Eddie and said the fight was flat off. Lied on Boots Ennis in the process saying he was facing Bud. Now everyone's like "at least it's not Jake Paul" in May. It's all very rinse and repeat. On a side, when do we announce dates and specific time frames left wide open like this. A four-fight deal and the only one I'm certain of is now Scull. Meanwhile Bud sits on the bench inactive over another year waiting on September. It just feels all very backwards. If anything, wtf isn't Bud fighting Scull to at least bring a belt to the table?! Quite the circus of its own doing.
Damn.
Agreed on SO MANY points. Not facing a Scull the first time and now having him as an opponent gives Canelo the chance at that "multi-time undisputed" you mentioned. It's not as sexy defending against the pedestrian Scull, as taking a belt from him in a championship fight. After all... Scull's now a (cough) champion.
The other point is setting the bar low, then swerving out of it. After the brief uproar over a possible JP fight... the calculated response is relief that it's now a legitimate champion in Scull. By comparison, the unworthiness of Scull is glossed over.
This is worthy of a marketing PhD.
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Crawford is wrapped in cotton wool, training in the gym, putting on some weight and ready for slaughter in September. There is no risk of him facing anyone in the interim.
Ready for slaughter is correct. ;D
Only casuals will try and argue that this is legit.
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Crawford is wrapped in cotton wool, training in the gym, putting on some weight and ready for slaughter in September. There is no risk of him facing anyone in the interim.
Ready for slaughter is correct. ;D
Only casuals will try and argue that this is legit.
There are some hardcore fans that I normally respect which argue that this is a legitimate super fight and that we should not be so critical. They just can not see the manufactured nature of this event. So blatant and desperate and it needs to be called out.
Also Scull is much of a world champion as Dubois is at heavyweight. None.
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Crawford is wrapped in cotton wool, training in the gym, putting on some weight and ready for slaughter in September. There is no risk of him facing anyone in the interim.
Ready for slaughter is correct. ;D
Only casuals will try and argue that this is legit.
There are some hardcore fans that I normally respect which argue that this is a legitimate super fight and that we should not be so critical. They just can not see the manufactured nature of this event. So blatant and desperate and it needs to be called out.
Also Scull is much of a world champion as Dubois is at heavyweight. None.
A little bit harsh on Dubois. There have probably been way less worthy champions than Dubois, why pick on him.
Usyk is the man , we know that. But we also know there are usually multiple champions at every weight.
It’s not unusual that a 4th or 5th rated guy in the division becomes a champion .
Dubois beat Joshua, that’s not a bad scalp, and while I’m not saying he’s a World beater, he’s as deserving as anyone else in the division outside Usyk.
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Crawford is wrapped in cotton wool, training in the gym, putting on some weight and ready for slaughter in September. There is no risk of him facing anyone in the interim.
Ready for slaughter is correct. ;D
Only casuals will try and argue that this is legit.
There are some hardcore fans that I normally respect which argue that this is a legitimate super fight and that we should not be so critical. They just can not see the manufactured nature of this event. So blatant and desperate and it needs to be called out.
Also Scull is much of a world champion as Dubois is at heavyweight. None.
A little bit harsh on Dubois. There have probably been way less worthy champions than Dubois, why pick on him.
Usyk is the man , we know that. But we also know there are usually multiple champions at every weight.
It’s not unusual that a 4th or 5th rated guy in the division becomes a champion .
Dubois beat Joshua, that’s not a bad scalp, and while I’m not saying he’s a World beater, he’s as deserving as anyone else in the division outside Usyk.
There is only one champion and that is Usyk, he already beat him, and that belt he has is not the real thing. He is a paper champion like Scull.
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Also Scull is much of a world champion as Dubois is at heavyweight. None.
A little bit harsh on Dubois. There have probably been way less worthy champions than Dubois, why pick on him.
Usyk is the man , we know that. But we also know there are usually multiple champions at every weight.
It’s not unusual that a 4th or 5th rated guy in the division becomes a champion .
Dubois beat Joshua, that’s not a bad scalp, and while I’m not saying he’s a World beater, he’s as deserving as anyone else in the division outside Usyk.
i don't think master was being harsh on daniel, just highlighting a similar situation where there is already a recognized champion in the division
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Also Scull is much of a world champion as Dubois is at heavyweight. None.
A little bit harsh on Dubois. There have probably been way less worthy champions than Dubois, why pick on him.
Usyk is the man , we know that. But we also know there are usually multiple champions at every weight.
It’s not unusual that a 4th or 5th rated guy in the division becomes a champion .
Dubois beat Joshua, that’s not a bad scalp, and while I’m not saying he’s a World beater, he’s as deserving as anyone else in the division outside Usyk.
i don't think master was being harsh on daniel, just highlighting a similar situation where there is already a recognized champion in the division
Like I said , there have been worse.
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Btw I don’t know why I’m sticking up for Dubois. I don’t think he’s all that, but with what else is out there and I respect what he did to Joshua.
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Also Scull is much of a world champion as Dubois is at heavyweight. None.
A little bit harsh on Dubois. There have probably been way less worthy champions than Dubois, why pick on him.
Usyk is the man , we know that. But we also know there are usually multiple champions at every weight.
It’s not unusual that a 4th or 5th rated guy in the division becomes a champion .
Dubois beat Joshua, that’s not a bad scalp, and while I’m not saying he’s a World beater, he’s as deserving as anyone else in the division outside Usyk.
i don't think master was being harsh on daniel, just highlighting a similar situation where there is already a recognized champion in the division
Like I said , there have been worse.
i think most would agree, the same could be said of william scull
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Btw I don’t know why I’m sticking up for Dubois. I don’t think he’s all that, but with what else is out there and I respect what he did to Joshua.
i respect that william scull fought vladimir Shishkin, it was a close fight. i had it a draw, could have gone either way
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Point being that they sell these contests as unifications when really they should be title defences for the main man at the weight.
In the case of Usyk he has already beaten Dubois last year which they are conveniently trying to forget to sell that fight should he get through Parker.
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Crawford is wrapped in cotton wool, training in the gym, putting on some weight and ready for slaughter in September. There is no risk of him facing anyone in the interim.
Ready for slaughter is correct. ;D
Only casuals will try and argue that this is legit.
There are some hardcore fans that I normally respect which argue that this is a legitimate super fight and that we should not be so critical. They just can not see the manufactured nature of this event. So blatant and desperate and it needs to be called out.
Also Scull is much of a world champion as Dubois is at heavyweight. None.
Even some "hardcore fans" (quote marks on purpose) can suffer from a crass lack of objectivity. Calling this sham a "legitimate super fight" is being delusional at best. That's the problem with being a fanatic. You see everything through rose-tinted glasses, and are unable to call out garbage fights when they involve your object of devotion. So yeah... it needs to be called out.
And yes... we agree on Scull. Not sure I would dump on Dubois very much... but Scull is another story. A classic paperweight, holding onto a belt until he loses (probably by KO) to Canelo. Will obviously be dressed up as another legitimate championship fight. But we've already discussed why this isn't even close to being worthy.
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https://www.tudn.com/boxeo/david-fai...varez-ya-basta
Classic. :D
This isn't me. This isn't Saddo'er Canelo hater, TitoFan. This is a respected fellow Mexican raking Ginger over the coals for his current and recent choice of opponents.
His own countrymen are just as fed up with the circus as the rest of us real boxing fans.
Priceless...
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(ahem)
I was going to start a new thread, but no need. :D
It's finally official.
https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...clash-crawford
"Canelo Alvarez cruises, locks up Sept. 12 clash with Crawford"
So he dispatches that worthy and "oh-so-dangerous" opponent :D ... William Scull was it?
And now sets his sights on yet another opponent from several divisions south of him. :D
LET THE HYPE GAMES BEGIN!!!!!!!! (drum roll, please)
This would be what... the THIRD little guy Canelo will be feasting upon? (Someone help me out here).
Let's see... first there was Khan, that annoying mosquito buzzing around the ring until Canelo connected one meaningful punch and... end of fight.
Then there was Jermell, who promised great things but was still coming from two divisions down. Predictable borefest.
And now here comes Bud trotting in. With yet ANOTHER FUKKING two division jump.
Wait... it's actually THREE divisions. As only deluded fans will say that Bud is actually a super welter... WHERE HE ONLY HAD ONE FIGHT... and looked less than his dominant welter self.
A Hollywood ending to a Hollywood script. (Can't afford having a real opponent ruin the movie rights that are sure to come, am I right?).
Let's recap...
1. Ginger gets humiliated by Bivol when he tries to go up to light heavy.
2. He then drags a 40-year old man to super middle, for a third go-round, even though the first two times the judges robbed the other guy of a deserved victory.
3. Fights John Ryder. Fair enough. Let's not hate for the sake of hating. But this is the guy who had previously lost to that "ATG", Rocky Fielding.
4. Fights little Jermell (see above).
5. Beats Mungia. WAIT!!! Isn't Mungia Mexican?? I'm confused. Didn't Ginger say he doesn't fight Mexicans when he DUCKED David Benavidez??
6. Beats Berlanga. Nice one for the movie. Plays into the Mex-PR rivalry thing. Except Berlanga was always overrated. Gave it a good effort, though.
7. Beats William fukking Scull. No comments necessary, right? Even ardent Canelo fans know this was a piece of shet fight. (Predictably so, I might add).
8. THE GRAND FINALE!!! The great welterweight (but soon to be hyped as a real danger to Canelo).... Bud Crawford.
Grand finale, did I say? You bet. After beating the mega-hyped Crawford, does anyone in their right mind think Canelo is going to risk damaging the end of his career with a real challenge?? Much less a (shudder) LOSS??
No. The script is written. The money's on the table. Hell... the only question is whether they'll find a credible actor to play Canelo's part... or whether Canelo will decide no one is handsome enough and take acting lessons himself.
I'll keep on repeating what I've said for years.
I CAN'T WAIT TILL THIS OVERHYPED BOZO IS GONE FROM BOXING.
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I just can't see Crawford winning this. It is too high a jump. I would love it if Crawford could pull it off but it will not happen. This had a long run of promotion, hype, and build up that it will end up as an anticlimax.
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I honestly might do my best to ignore this entire lead up and "event" as just not much positive to say. After Canelos last abysmal outing it's abundantly clear he's fighting with one foot out of the door and this Turki deal may very well will be his career grand finale come May/Sept of 2026, if not sooner. And Crawford coming off yet another year of inactivity two divisions removed unlikely to go back down going on 38 years old may be eyeing the same sort of finale. It's just disappointing on both fronts and trust me when I say...the massive hype and promotion leading up will be like nothing we've ever seen. Can easily see the fight being billed a "let down" simply because it will almost be over shadowed in some ways. I'm talking literally comic book shit on a bad acid trip goes to the astral circus type nauseating hype train. This is the inaugural intro of Dana White promoting and fluffing Turki both backed fully by the TKO group, and if you think the "historical" Times Square complete bust, um card, was too much and completely over the top of reality...well buckle up.
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canelo's ability to cut off the ring has deteriorated so much i'm starting to think bud might have shot
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canelo's ability to cut off the ring has deteriorated so much i'm starting to think bud might have shot
The nearer the fight gets, the more I’m talking myself into a Bud win. Obviously the underdog, but Canelo has lost twice and both times they were Technically gifted boxers. Bud ticks that box, and also has spite.
The elephant in the room is the weight difference. Yes , it’s a biggie, but the extra weight only works for you if you make the weight work for you. An example , although massively exaggerated is Haye-Valuev.
Standing up against each other, there isn’t much difference size wise and I would guess Crawford even has a reach advantage.
Crawford is notoriously known for being freakishly strong in the gym for his size. My hope is that he has spent this time out of the ring building up his frame and muscle mass sufficiently without losing his advantages (speed, IQ).
Big question marks are.
1. He didn’t look great against Madrimov (who I think is underrated) 2 weights below.
2. He’s no spring chicken and it’s very difficult to make these changes to your body and retain your legs at his age. Make no mistake there are times he will have to dance around the ring, he can’t slug with Canelo for 12 rounds.
3. An unknown , will his chin stand up to Canelo’s power punches? Because sure as shit Canelo will be able to withstand Crawford’s. But nobody is expecting a Bud KO. He just needs enough power to keep Canelo honest, like Floyd and Bivol had.
Let’s not use the Khan fight as any type of yardstick , because it’s chalk and cheese. Khan was already past his best, with a suspect chin and it would’ve been impossible to run for 12 rounds without getting plugged. Even so, he had his moments .
In summary, I accept Canelo is favourite, but I’m going all in and tipping (a bit in hope) a Bud victory. I was one of the very few that felt Canelo had chosen badly when he opted to fight Bivol and got that spot on.
I hope I’m right again.
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canelo is the obvious favourite but he's been fighting a long time, since he was around fifteen. canelo has always struggled with guys with good movement & fundamentals. the weight will be a big factor but to me canelo shouldn't really be above middle. you're right about making the weight work for you, canelo's style doesn't make it a huge advantage. only casuals will try to compare amir with bud. amir was getting knocked out at lightweight. it's debatable if bud has been hurt or dropped. some say he was hurt against yuriorkis & dropped against egidijus, both disputable. i think you & i were both calling out how difficult dmitry was going to be. i'm hoping bud brings out the best of canelo & he has one last explosive performance in him, he hasn't stopped anyone since caleb. i just hope it's a good fight
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canelo's ability to cut off the ring has deteriorated so much i'm starting to think bud might have shot
The nearer the fight gets, the more I’m talking myself into a Bud win. Obviously the underdog, but Canelo has lost twice and both times they were Technically gifted boxers. Bud ticks that box, and also has spite.
The elephant in the room is the weight difference. Yes , it’s a biggie, but the extra weight only works for you if you make the weight work for you. An example , although massively exaggerated is Haye-Valuev.
Standing up against each other, there isn’t much difference size wise and I would guess Crawford even has a reach advantage.
Crawford is notoriously known for being freakishly strong in the gym for his size. My hope is that he has spent this time out of the ring building up his frame and muscle mass sufficiently without losing his advantages (speed, IQ).
Big question marks are.
1. He didn’t look great against Madrimov (who I think is underrated) 2 weights below.
2. He’s no spring chicken and it’s very difficult to make these changes to your body and retain your legs at his age. Make no mistake there are times he will have to dance around the ring, he can’t slug with Canelo for 12 rounds.
3. An unknown , will his chin stand up to Canelo’s power punches? Because sure as shit Canelo will be able to withstand Crawford’s. But nobody is expecting a Bud KO. He just needs enough power to keep Canelo honest, like Floyd and Bivol had.
Let’s not use the Khan fight as any type of yardstick , because it’s chalk and cheese. Khan was already past his best, with a suspect chin and it would’ve been impossible to run for 12 rounds without getting plugged. Even so, he had his moments .
In summary, I accept Canelo is favourite, but I’m going all in and tipping (a bit in hope) a Bud victory. I was one of the very few that felt Canelo had chosen badly when he opted to fight Bivol and got that spot on.
I hope I’m right again.
On the bolded part... I'm sure you're not alone. Pretty sure Vegas will see it your way also. My reaction? Same ol' story. As the fight nears, fans will look for reasons to "make" this a legitimate fight, as well as a (cough) dangerous fight for Canelo. The reality is, it's not. The size difference and weight division jump just CANNOT be ignored. The wishing part in all of us kicks in, and "wishes" that Bud will "add muscle mass without losing his advantages." So how did his lone foray into super welter work out? Exactly. We can logic the hell out of the performance, but the overwhelming reaction to the fight was that Bud left his power back at 147. Now he's going up to SUPER MIDDLE. Two divisions higher than the one Bud didn't impress in.
The growing sentiment that this is an actual (cough) challenge for the much heavier Canelo will play nicely on the morning after the fight, after Canelo has either earned (due to an overly cautious Bud), or stolen (due to the historical pro-Canelo bias in Vegas) a decision win.
And yes... Bud is also old. (But since when has size or age stopped boxing from hyping the hell out of a Canelo fight?)
Khan was mentioned for a reason, and it wasn't to compare him to Bud. Only comprehension-challenged readers will read that interpretation into what I said. Khan was mentioned to illustrate Canelo's penchant for picking on undersized fighters and claiming some sort of impressive victory.
What nobody seems to understand is that Canelo has only twice miscalculated on his (very careful) cherry-picking choice of opponents. Both times he was embarrassed.
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Let’s not use the Khan fight as any type of yardstick , because it’s chalk and cheese.
comprehension-challenged?
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only casuals will try to compare amir with bud
Comprehension-challenged
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Let’s not use the Khan fight as any type of yardstick , because it’s chalk and cheese.
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only casuals will try to compare amir with bud
my statement that followed primo carnera's chalk and cheese comparison highlights that only casuals will try to compare amir with bud. i could be wrong, maybe there are hardcore's comparing amir to bud
had to break it down & go slow for the comprehension-challenged
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Let’s not use the Khan fight as any type of yardstick , because it’s chalk and cheese.
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only casuals will try to compare amir with bud
my statement that followed primo carnera's chalk and cheese comparison highlights that only casuals will try to compare amir with bud. i could be wrong, maybe there are hardcore's comparing amir to bud
had to break it down & go slow for the comprehension-challenged
Nobody's comparing Amir to Bud, bro. I doubt any hardcore fans outside the forum would do so, either.
No biggie. Just clearing up a point is all.
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There is a rumour that the fight may not be Friday 12th September but 13th and venue may be changed.
Also do not know what channel this is on, if net flicks then it will not be PPV.
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There is a rumour that the fight may not be Friday 12th September but 13th and venue may be changed.
Also do not know what channel this is on, if net flicks then it will not be PPV.
Saw that too. Sounds like Turki pulled rank on Dana before the first presser even took shape. If those two egos co-exist and manage to make it to the opening bell still holding hands, I'll be shocked. It'll be a $100 straight PPV no doubt, no netflix.
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There is a rumour that the fight may not be Friday 12th September but 13th and venue may be changed.
Also do not know what channel this is on, if net flicks then it will not be PPV.
Saw that too. Sounds like Turki pulled rank on Dana before the first presser even took shape. If those two egos co-exist and manage to make it to the opening bell still holding hands, I'll be shocked. It'll be a $100 straight PPV no doubt, no netflix.
You're probably right. The prospect of a $100 PPV to watch Canelo-Crawford just doesn't give me (personally) a warm and fuzzy. I know they'll get lots of buys. The show must go on, after all. But I've never believed in this fight from the very beginning. With the specters of Charlo and Scull not too far in the past... why the hell would I subject myself to another programmed gimme??
Nah. I love boxing and will continue to pay for PPV's that I deem worthy. But for this one I'll probably settle for a good ol' Saddo RBR by you guys. ;D
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Bud is also old.
roberto duran was 37 years and 8 months old when he beat iran barkley.
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Bud is also old.
roberto duran was 37 years and 8 months old when he beat iran barkley.
Yes. He was old also. Admirable that he beat Barkley. Not many elite fighters can do that.
But... how many quality wins against top opposition did he have after he beat Barkley?
Answer: none
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There is a rumour that the fight may not be Friday 12th September but 13th and venue may be changed.
Also do not know what channel this is on, if net flicks then it will not be PPV.
Saw that too. Sounds like Turki pulled rank on Dana before the first presser even took shape. If those two egos co-exist and manage to make it to the opening bell still holding hands, I'll be shocked. It'll be a $100 straight PPV no doubt, no netflix.
You're probably right. The prospect of a $100 PPV to watch Canelo-Crawford just doesn't give me (personally) a warm and fuzzy. I know they'll get lots of buys. The show must go on, after all. But I've never believed in this fight from the very beginning. With the specters of Charlo and Scull not too far in the past... why the hell would I subject myself to
another programmed gimme??
Nah. I love boxing and will continue to pay for PPV's that I deem worthy. But for this one I'll probably settle for a good ol' Saddo RBR by you guys. ;D
Not going to lie it all rides on the undercard for me and what they roll out but don't expect anything jaw dropping. Could also see them trying to co mingle this card with that Fridays ufc ppv as they're basically under the same oversight now regardless of what Turki says. But Sept also feels a year away and as of yet they have not announced a location for the fight. It's all very much up in the air.
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Bud is also old.
roberto duran was 37 years and 8 months old when he beat iran barkley.
Crazy thing is Duran had absolutely nothing to lose going in and had to scratch back from the brink of career dismissal by then. Literally and mentally, he was very hungry for one last stand at the very top, title wise. More importantly...he was an active 37. At respected age he and Bud were polar opposites really. Bud is basically acting as a content fighter and was talking guaranteed HOF'er even 2 years ago. I just really do wonder about the appetite of both Bud and Canelo in this.
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this doesn't really interest me but i guess it's boxing news. tko (dana) are no longer promoting this fight. there are also rumors that canelo is not happy with turki saying there are other potential sites, when apparently vegas was the original agreement
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this doesn't really interest me but i guess it's boxing news. tko (dana) are no longer promoting this fight. there are also rumors that canelo is not happy with turki saying there are other potential sites, when apparently vegas was the original agreement
Maybe it won’t go ahead. Boxing is in a mess man.
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seems like they worked it all out & got netflix onboard
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtFjkFYX...g&name=900x900
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Dana White is the promoter and not on DAZN? Very peculiar.
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Dana White is the promoter and not on DAZN? Very peculiar.
I said the same thing when I saw that too. Very peculiar indeed.
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The pre fight hype has started.
Canelo wants Turki to ensure there is a small ring. Crawford said he would not run.
Canelo pushes Crawford.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/06...0619044887.jpg
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Turki Alalshikh is hoping to stage Jared Anderson vs Jarrell Miller on the Canelo Alvarez vs Terence Crawford undercard.
https://talksport.com/boxing/3317133...ared-anderson/