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Its on.... officially!!! June 25 or July 2- Haye (ME) The WBA Champ Vs Klitschko The IBF & WBO Champ battle it out for World No.1 Spot.
Fight is made for June 25th or July 2nd according to Hayes Fbook, like most on here i'll believe the fights happening when they getting their instructions off the ref ;D
Wlad is ducking Chisora! :D
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Sorry for the old phase, but........
If I had a dollar for every announcement that's been made about Haye fighting Klitschko, I'd be a millionaire.
may have to take back everything I started to say about Haye - would like to go this one but given the history with the two there is no way I would commit to booking anything in advance.
Won't believe its going to happen till the two are on way to ring
You have to laugh at this situation now.
David Haye once pulled out of a fight with Wlad due to injury. It just so happened at the time Haye's tv net work went bust and all income that Haye would have got from the fight went down the pan. Haye got a mysterious injury and pulled out of the fight. He was then blasted by Wlad and a rediculous amount of boxing fans.
Klit had a fight signed with Chisora, pulled out once with injury and now has pulled out with a second mysterious injury and 2 days later has a more lucrative deal on the table to fight David Haye.
If you can't see the hippocrissy and double standards in all this then you are blinder than a no eyed bat with a blindfold on.
Of course I'm much happier that Wlad is signed to fight Haye rather than Chisora (weather the fight will actually happen or not, who knows) but surely Boxing fans can take a step back from this and realize the integrity for all boxers out there is exactly the same.
I find the whole thing very amusing. Just cuz this fight is signed does not mean that this saga is over. Not by a long shot.
My money is on Wlad.........
........ Pulling out of the Haye fight due to a reocorance of the stomach injury.
I think that's what it's come down to now. People aren't going to bet on the fight they're going to bet on who pulls out first.Quote:
Originally Posted by 0james0
Haye seems to be the type that would disappear when the lights dim down for fighter intro's and still come back a week later with some excuse. I won't believe they're fighting till I see the first punch
this.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mar
when did boxing turn into a sport for chickens?
hate both of these wankers.......dont give a rat's ass who wins.:lickish:
:lol:
I really think this is the real thing at last and that they will fight this time.
Won't go past 6 and unlikely past 3. One of them is getting KOed, I am tipping Wlad to KO Haye, but wouldn't be surprised if Haye won. If Sanders and Brewster can do it, Haye certainly can (even if I do think he's majorly overrated)
I won't beleive it until the first punch is thrown. I wouldn't put it past one of them to pull out during the refs instructions. Anyway, I'm still picking Wlad as I was in 2009, he's solidified his reputation while Haye has gone down in my eyes. His big chance is supposed to be he's this huge, lightning quick puncher but he was bouncing punches off John Ruizs' head and didn't knock him out properly. He won't get that many oppurtunities to land on Wlad, I'm predicting a late rounds TKO.
Wlad isn't going to lose he may try to carry the fight a bit, I'm thinking round 6.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
FB page is down, sooooooooooooooooo, I think there's a chance of the 2nd coming of jesus before these two get it on.
apparently they are putting it in the contract that if wlad gets injured then vitali will fight haye if he wins his next fight:confused:
Haha Lyle. Here is your ideal ringwalk music for Wlad!Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWlad isn't going to lose he may try to carry the fight a bit, I'm thinking round 6.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0H3bJHWGl4
i'll be putting money on haye
i dont think wlad has the nuts
Why don't you cut out the middle man and just flush it down the toilet?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
The contract actually states that Haye fights a Klit, not necessarily Wlad. It's just that Wlad is the priority choice at the moment but means Vitali will step in if he fails to recover from his ab injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drago
The worst part about this fight happening is that we have to endure Haye's trash-talking for the next 5 months.
It's puzzling to me that people on this forum are so high on Haye when his best win is over Mormeck or Valuev. It just seems a bit odd. I guess people must see a lot of potential greatness in him. Haye Fans - What is it about Haye that impresses you?
I hope people give Wlad credit when he beats Haye. I have nothing against Haye. I just haven't seen much of him to be very impressed about. It's good that we finally have a big heavyweight fight to look forward to. Credit to both fighters for making it happen becaue it is good for boxing. Now, if only Manny and Floyd would follow suit.
The beginnings of Haye's trash-talking:
“I have been chasing this fight since day one, because I know boxing styles and I know which styles I have success against,” said Haye. “Klitschko is ready-made for me. I eat tall, chinny Eastern European heavyweights for breakfast. Wladimir is a fighter that doesn’t like to fight, and he has admitted that fact in the past. Unfortunately for him, I am a fighter that loves nothing more than fighting.
“I have the heart of lion, whereas Wladimir has the heart of a hyena. He cries and squeals and slips into the wilderness at the first sign of danger. Wladimir has proven this over the years, and I’m certain he will want no part of this lion when it finally comes time to go to war.”
This is what will likely happen if the 2 fights. Massive amount of shit talking from both sides to stir up the fight, it probably will get mainstream attention and then billed as the biggest fight in boxing for the unified HW championship, HBO or Showtime will pick it up.
But then once both gets in the ring. Wlad is going to paw with his left or jab, jab, jab, tries to land the right, then clinch/hold if Haye gets close, repeat and rinse like he has done with every opponent he faces (there's a reason why he's called boring by hardcore and casual fans). Haye more than likely will try to fight Wlad like he did against Valuev (which was a shit fight) and try to outbox Wlad from the outside.
The mainstream press will cover the fight, casual fans will tune in thinking that this will be Holyfield/Bowe or Ali/Frazier and will be massively bored and disappointed saying wtf? There will then be countless articles and airtime why boxing is dead and no one cares because the HW division is so shit when the biggest HW championship fight in a decade that is so massively hyped and is considered to be the biggest fight in boxing is a dud.
Let me ask you guys this, when has Wlad been in an exciting fight that hardcore boxing and casual sports fan were both in agreement that it was an awesome fight? None, exactly. The fight will be a dud, mark my words.
His trash talking will only get funnier because he's going to have to spout all his bullshit right infront of Wlad....he wasn't so convincing when he confronted him at the airport that one time. The guy is digging a very deep holefor himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
There are 2 types of people that want to see the WBA title holder ...ecuse me the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gAlxfNBWvY "Super" WBA title holder :gay5: win....#1 The "Homers" the Brits who want nothing but British champs and follow nothing but British boxing and # The Haters, the people who for whatever reason don't like the Klitschko's
This whole fight is a big con job...Wlad won't be bothered by this guy, you guys slate his competition but guys like Sam Peter who's durable and going to be around for 10-12 rounds is much more dangerous than this dude who has been dropped by Mormeck and hurt by Ruiz.
In terms of trash talking, Wlad wins hand down for me.
"I'm going to make him into a pizza face..."
"David Haye is a piece of shit..."
"David Haye is a pussy..."
REAL TALK. ;D
Even as a Brit, I want to see Wlad smash David Haye. The amount of disrepect he has shown the Klits warrants it tbh. They have nothing to prove to anyone, especially not David Haye.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
It will be a million times better build-up than actual fight. There's no way safety Wlad is gonna come out of his shell against the most dangerous puncher he's faced in donkey's years and there's no way Haye is gonna go in all guns blazing.
If it's an early KO Haye is the more likely. Wlad will wait until Haye is tired and lost his sharpness before risking taking him out.
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Originally Posted by El KabongWhy don't you cut out the middle man and just flush it down the toilet?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
:) naa, ill put it on at the bookies, i think theres a very good chance of a return
just say that haye wins by devastating KO in 2 rounds, how will you feel?
and dont say it wont happen its a hypothetical question you know what i mean?
thats good you take sides dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by koppas
not think he deserves some respect for his approach? after all it has put some life into the heavyweights
See people are buying into this idea that "Wlad will just come out establish the jab and maybe in round 5 finally throw a right cross" when the reality of the situation is that vs Sam Peter a dangerous albeit slower puncher than the WBA "Super" :gay5: title holder, Wlad threw power punches from the get go, one of the first punches landed was a right cross...a right cross that would end this fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I have no doubts that we'll see the WBA "Super" title holder get hurt early on and try to hold on for dear life...a beautiful case of irony since part of the trash talk has been directed at "safety first" and jabbing and holding....Wlad MAY try to carry him, but he may just have a little too much fun beating the shit out of the guy and end it sooner. Plus we've got no idea how the WBA title holder's chin will hold up to Wlad's jab let alone the cross or the hook....if Ruiz can catch you and hurt you then the Magic 8 Ball says "Outlook Bad" for fighting Wladimir a guy with more KO wins (at heavyweight) than his opponent has fights (in total)
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Originally Posted by generalbulldog
It is good to see some excitement in the HW division. The bullshit is immense and I was tired of Haye's trashtalking while he was still at cruiser....and I do admit he did well at the weakest weight division in boxing.
I just hope for a good fight.
I would bet the fight does not happen, but if it does, I bet it does not go the distance.
Sam Peter is a statue compared with Haye. He can't move and he's P4P one of the slowest fuckers on earth. PLUS - the fat plodder tired himself out doing a Joe Frazier impersonation in the first minute of round one. He was begging for an oxygen mask after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSee people are buying into this idea that "Wlad will just come out establish the jab and maybe in round 5 finally throw a right cross" when the reality of the situation is that vs Sam Peter a dangerous albeit slower puncher than the WBA "Super" :gay5: title holder, Wlad threw power punches from the get go, one of the first punches landed was a right cross...a right cross that would end this fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I have no doubts that we'll see the WBA "Super" title holder get hurt early on and try to hold on for dear life...a beautiful case of irony since part of the trash talk has been directed at "safety first" and jabbing and holding....Wlad MAY try to carry him, but he may just have a little too much fun beating the shit out of the guy and end it sooner. Plus we've got no idea how the WBA title holder's chin will hold up to Wlad's jab let alone the cross or the hook....if Ruiz can catch you and hurt you then the Magic 8 Ball says "Outlook Bad" for fighting Wladimir a guy with more KO wins (at heavyweight) than his opponent has fights (in total)
Tyson Fury would have beat him quicker than safety Wlad. Fact.
I give Wlad a massive 70-30 chance in winning this one. As I have said for about 2 years now if both were physically the same size Haye would be a very strong favourite in my eyes - but they aren't and that for me will be the crucial, and deciding, factor.
70-30 was the same way I thought when Mayweather v Hatton was announced (though I admit that after 4 days on the pop in Vegas and getting carried away with the hype by the time fight night arrived I had been converted to 0-100 in Hatton's favour........)
That's ridiculous. This is the biggest fight in boxing outside Pac-Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by badr_hari..Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Casual Brit fans will buy it. German fans will buy it (60,000 punters). HBO wil buy it. And EVERY hardcore boxing fan around the world will watch it.
Whether the fight is entertaining or not is irrelevant. It is huge.
Oh hold on....Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XPHL4Q86t4
press play and then continue on with your little rant ;D
Sam Peter has a heart, a chin, and some guts....that's more than YOUR BOY can boast about.
How has Haye got no heart or guts? That's ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Sam Peter has a heart, a chin, and some guts....that's more than YOUR BOY can boast about.
So all you're left with is plodder Peter has a better chin (although for a fighter with no chin Haye is yet to be flattened for a ten count).
Haye can boast that he is faster than Peter, more elusive, a naturally more talented athlete, won more titles, has a higher KO percentage and has never been beaten at heavyweight.
Haye pisses all over Peter. Fact.
...he's also never fought anyone with a pulse at heavyweight and yet he's still been down and been hurt, yet we are to believe that he'll beat Wladimir Klitschko? Funny guy ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterHow has Haye got no heart or guts? That's ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Sam Peter has a heart, a chin, and some guts....that's more than YOUR BOY can boast about.
So all you're left with is plodder Peter has a better chin (although for a fighter with no chin Haye is yet to be flattened for a ten count).
Haye can boast that he is faster than Peter, more elusive, a naturally more talented athlete, won more titles, has a higher KO percentage and has never been beaten at heavyweight.
Haye pisses all over Peter. Fact.
No guts, because he took the easy route to the top (Evander Holyfield didn't do that, he fought some live bodies)....no heart because he's already focused on retirement.
Its a big fight, but it's an EASY EASY fight for Wlad...sure people will play up his slip ups, Purrity, Sanders, Brewster and people will downplay the WBA title holder's issues with stamina and his chin. You guys can go ahead and think it's a fair fight, but after all is said and done you'll be asking for a Super Heavyweight Division.
If Wlad takes his time the fight could go 6-8 but he's going to have to have a willing opponent....if he steps on the gas he can make it a very short night.
Its not the first time HBO buys a heavyweight fight and a hardcore fan should usually catch every fight with the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
European fans will buy NOTHING, they have it FOR FREE on RTL like EVERY Klitschko fight (except Britain of course).
I understand you mate, you are British. Its a huge fight, exactly.