"intelligent" man WON'T STOP when a COP orders him to STOP---guess what happened???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOgx6I14sRI

guess what happened Lyle @El Kabong

RACISM HAPPENED, THATS WHAT!!!!!

Well that could have been avoided. I'm thinking the good old taxpayers of California are going to flip the bill for this one.

I don't much like to see the cops acting like that, but hey play stupid games win stupid prizes.

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well that could have been avoided. I'm thinking the good old taxpayers of california are going to flip the bill for this one.

I don't much like to see the cops acting like that, but hey play stupid games win stupid prizes.

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"please stop" (8 times)

"get on the ground now!" (4 times)

"get down or i will take you down!" (3 times)


gee, the dude didnt receive any instructions from the officer.

Cops tend to ask for things with a descending degree of politeness....if you do as they say immediately that is as nice as they are going to be with you regardless of color.

I don't care how right I think I am if I am walking and minding my own business and one hundred percent innocent if a police officer says Hey excuse me could you come here for a minute I cannot imagine why in a million years that I would have an attitude of like yeah f*** you and keep on walking if he says please stop right now please stop right now STOP!!! and I just say f*** you and I keep on walking I cannot imagine ever doing that to a police officer. Let's let's ask beanz and gandalf if they would do that in that situation.

I wouldn't be in that country. I only stay in places where the police know their position and that is to serve society and not control it in the interests of the elite.

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I wouldn't be in that country. I only stay in places where the police know their position and that is to serve society and not control it in the interests of the elite.

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We need cops miles people do crazy shit then blame it on the elites, no personal responsibility

Thom Yorke mentioned a story about when he was younger he went on a protest about student loans. Thatcher was apparently angry about this disobedience so the police on horses ran at the protesters. One horse kicked a pregnant one. Others were battered indiscriminately with police weapons.

Yes, they all too often seem to acting in the interests of the elite rather than serving the people who pay their wages. You saw the same thing there with occupy. Snipers beams aimed at the backs of protestors who were simply saying ' Hey, this system is rigged'.

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Thom Yorke mentioned a story about when he was younger he went on a protest about student loans. Thatcher was apparently angry about this disobedience so the police on horses ran at the protesters. One horse kicked a pregnant one. Others were battered indiscriminately with police weapons.

Yes, they all too often seem to acting in the interests of the elite rather than serving the people who pay their wages. You saw the same thing there with occupy. Snipers beams aimed at the backs of protestors who were simply saying ' Hey, this system is rigged'.

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that example is pure British distraction and derailing off the track toss pot rubbish.

Sucks nowadays that people jump immediately to a race bait banner rather than acknowledging there actually are instances when Cops can be every bit at fault. He had no intention of just 'having a conversation' and lost control of his shit. Jaywalking FFS. Nope, no profiling there:-X.

At most he would have got a civil ticket if he had listened. Now he is gonna have a slew of charges. Young cops think they will save the world by giving out tickets. Show your ID, say as little as possible and your exchange will be brief. You will not win a battle

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At most he would have got a civil ticket if he had listened. Now he is gonna have a slew of charges. Young cops think they will save the world by giving out tickets. Show your ID, say as little as possible and your exchange will be brief. You will not win a battle

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The guy was crossing a road minding his own business and the police officer clearly had nothing else to do but harrass the poor bloke. That this discussion is even happening and you are posting this video and people are defending it is nuts. Taxpayer money is used to pay for bored people to look for ways to arrest you. Insane.

Why is crossing a road illegal, just a ridiculous crime.

Example of Police grossly abusing their powers can be seen during the miners strike. Examples of them lying and hiding evidence can be seen during the Hillsborough disaster.

The guy did stop, he took off his coat to show he had no weapons and the other cops were literally seconds away from getting to the scene. Nothing there justifies rugby tackling the geezer let alone smashing his canister in, nobody was in danger.

Why shouldn't people have the right to question why they're being stopped?

I can't stand pricks that blame everything on racism but there's no justification for behaviour like that unless the man was a wanted crim or threat to the cozzer or public.

Lawsuit Filed For Sactramento Man Beaten By Cop For Alleged Jaywalking « CBS San Francisco



That the guy should've stopped and tried to avoid the incident is beside the point. The main point here is that.....


How many more videotaped incidents is it going to take before someone takes a long, hard look at how the police force conducts itself in everyday business and does something about it?!?


The guy was punched 20 times in the face, suffering a concussion by getting his head bounced against the concrete. If that motherfukking poor excuse of a cop isn't thrown in jail for assault and battery, it's just another mockery of the justice system in the United States.

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The guy did stop, he took off his coat to show he had no weapons and the other cops were literally seconds away from getting to the scene. Nothing there justifies rugby tackling the geezer let alone smashing his canister in, nobody was in danger.

Why shouldn't people have the right to question why they're being stopped?

I can't stand pricks that blame everything on racism but there's no justification for behaviour like that unless the man was a wanted crim or threat to the cozzer or public.

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Yeah, me neither (seriously).... but consider this:


"Cain’s jaywalking accusation exemplifies a pattern within the Del Paso Heights police district, which in the past year has been responsible for nearly 75 percent of jaywalking citations issued in the city. Half of those have gone to African-Americans, who are only about 15 percent of the area’s residents."

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/opinion/editor...#storylink=cpy



So either blacks in Del Paso Heights police district do a hell of a lot more jaywalking than anybody else, or.....

All police officers should have to wear cameras for their own and the publics protection.

"Cop-cam" is a necessity long overdue. But law enforcement will probably wait for a few more riots/ protests/ lawsuits, and maybe even a President with balls before grudgingly implementing it.

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The guy did stop, he took off his coat to show he had no weapons and the other cops were literally seconds away from getting to the scene. Nothing there justifies rugby tackling the geezer let alone smashing his canister in, nobody was in danger.

Why shouldn't people have the right to question why they're being stopped?

I can't stand pricks that blame everything on racism but there's no justification for behaviour like that unless the man was a wanted crim or threat to the cozzer or public.

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Yeah, me neither (seriously).... but consider this:


"Cain’s jaywalking accusation exemplifies a pattern within the Del Paso Heights police district, which in the past year has been responsible for nearly 75 percent of jaywalking citations issued in the city. Half of those have gone to African-Americans, who are only about 15 percent of the area’s residents."

Read more here: Sacramento police beating: Jaywalking, or not, toward trust | The Sacramento Bee



So either blacks in Del Paso Heights police district do a hell of a lot more jaywalking than anybody else, or.....

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RegisteredDEMOCRATS 43.9%
Registered Republicans 31.9%


Funny how the progressive bleeding hearts always seem to have the Stazi-esque police forces

What has the % of voters got to do with that?

I'm not being contrary here I'm being absolutely serious to all you people who think the cup did something wrong. It doesn't matter if your opinion is that crossing the street is legal or not and it doesn't matter what your opinion is. A police officer asks you to stop you don't keep walking away from him and saying f*** you f*** you leave me alone f*** you. That right there shows some kind of failure to comply which also could be a sign of something much worse that you are hiding. What is the damn big deal if an officer says to stop what is the damn big deal are you people that proud are you people that proud and indignant that if an officer asks you to stop? What is the big deal if you have to just stop for a moment it's a yes officer can I help you and stop stop right there and speak to him like a human being in a respectful Manner and see what he wants. How do you people know what this man wants?

Master and Tito fan and Gandalf has it ever crossed your mind what if this police officer just got a call that there was a suspect on the loose who just committed an armed robbery or a rape and this guy happens to fit the description? Are you saying the officer has no right to stop that guy just because he is jaywalking? What if he fit the description of something? Do you know what secret information the police officers or radio into each other? This police officer has every right to stop somebody in check if they think something is wrong period that is their job.

It doesn't surprise me that Gandalf has evaded my question in typical Lefty fashion but let's try it again Gandalf and I would like to ask master and Tito fan man to man come on man up right now and answer this question man two men without any kind of evasion. If a police officer look you squarely in the eye and said if you keep walking I am going to take you down. Stop right there or else stop please stop right there I'm going to take you down. Are you telling me that you would keep walking and tell him f*** you? I can guarantee that neither Master nor Tito friend nor Gandalf would do that in that situation

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Let's say the man was a fleeing murder suspect..... had been involved in a shootout with police..... had fled in a speeding car..... had forcibly resisted arrest.


The cop STILL cannot punch the man close to 20 times in the head, causing a concussion.


What about the preceding statement is so hard to understand??!!??

This man was JAYWALKING, for crying out loud!!



As a cop you're taught to leave your emotions and your personal problems at home.

Oh..... and your racial prejudices too.

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Let's say the man was a fleeing murder suspect..... had been involved in a shootout with police..... had fled in a speeding car..... had forcibly resisted arrest.


The cop STILL cannot punch the man close to 20 times in the head, causing a concussion.


What about the preceding statement is so hard to understand??!!??

This man was JAYWALKING, for crying out loud!!



As a cop you're taught to leave your emotions and your personal problems at home.

Oh..... and your racial prejudices too.

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....well if he was a fleeing murder suspect/violent crime suspect I disagree BUT just jaywalking, just jaywalking....yeah it's fucking waaaaaaaaay too much

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If only that was true but that has nothing to do with how the man was treated.

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It doesn't surprise me that Gandalf has evaded my question in typical Lefty fashion but let's try it again Gandalf and I would like to ask master and Tito fan man to man come on man up right now and answer this question man two men without any kind of evasion. If a police officer look you squarely in the eye and said if you keep walking I am going to take you down. Stop right there or else stop please stop right there I'm going to take you down. Are you telling me that you would keep walking and tell him f*** you? I can guarantee that neither Master nor Tito friend nor Gandalf would do that in that situation

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A police officer must be aware that not everyone will comply for a variety of reasons. They could be deaf, mentally ill, be an addict, may have had a bad experience with police, just having a very bad day. How an officer behaves and reacts is crucial to manage the situation.

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If only that was true but that has nothing to do with how the man was treated.

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It's not true?

NYC Mayor Bill DeBlasio ordered the NYPD to crackdown on people selling untaxable/loose cigarettes and Eric Garner was resisting arrest for that very thing when he died.


Soooo you're telling me that Mayor DeBlasio (whom people voted for) was NOT acting in the interest of NYC when he ordered the police to crackdown on that because they were losing tax money?

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If only that was true but that has nothing to do with how the man was treated.

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It's not true?

NYC Mayor Bill DeBlasio ordered the NYPD to crackdown on people selling untaxable/loose cigarettes and Eric Garner was resisting arrest for that very thing when he died.


Soooo you're telling me that Mayor DeBlasio (whom people voted for) was NOT acting in the interest of NYC when he ordered the police to crackdown on that because they were losing tax money?

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So a democratic mayor was against jaywalking and this occured

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It doesn't surprise me that Gandalf has evaded my question in typical Lefty fashion but let's try it again Gandalf and I would like to ask master and Tito fan man to man come on man up right now and answer this question man two men without any kind of evasion. If a police officer look you squarely in the eye and said if you keep walking I am going to take you down. Stop right there or else stop please stop right there I'm going to take you down. Are you telling me that you would keep walking and tell him f*** you? I can guarantee that neither Master nor Tito friend nor Gandalf would do that in that situation

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A police officer must be aware that not everyone will comply for a variety of reasons. They could be deaf, mentally ill, be an addict, may have had a bad experience with police, just having a very bad day. How an officer behaves and reacts is crucial to manage the situation.

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Now that right there is the closest statement that anyone has made here that opposes my view that I can respect. It is true that the person could have been deaf or retarded or something or mentally ill and in that case the policeman has to definitely take that into consideration. However I think after he heard the man cursing him and saying "no way, I didn't do anything wrong , don't bother me no way bro" I think it's pretty clear that point that the man was not mentally ill. Also @TitoFan you cannot just compare jaywalking with getting punched 20 times in the face. That is not the way it went down bro and you know it. You are deliberately skipping a couple of steps in that sequence of events. When he tried to take him down the man vehemently resisted and put up a fight and started flailing his arms back at the officers face. In that case if you get punched in the face a couple of times by someone who you are trying to subdue then I believe you can Strike Back.

Ironically enough the only one under criminal investigation is the officer as all charges were dropped against the man. I know California has some screwed up roadways and traffic-pedestrian laws but really, how is this even considered jaywalking. Stopping, yield right of way and crossing strictly from corner to corner seems pretty basic. No traffic signals at all. The jaywalking is simply a default cause to stop and question a 'suspicious' person here. He never identified himself and likewise never asked him to produce identification. And how common is it to radio for back up prior to stopping a jaywalker ??? He might have been calling in a stop but it's not clear. At no time can you hear the guy 'curse' the officer over all of the radio chatter in the car. The cop lost total control of the situation and was also po'd at his Aunt yelling to him from the car and went from 0-60 because a citizen rightfully questioned him on what grounds he was being stopped and pleaded his innocence. This isn't a left or right thing, it's an abuse of power thing. When your own Department is already inferring you were out of line and it's against policy there really is no defense. This kid will get a nice chunk of change at the end of the day.

he wasnt thrown to the ground bcuz he questioned why he was being stopped.

He was thrown to the ground because the officer told him to stop 10 or 15 times and he kept walking away. The officer then said IF YOU DONT STOP I WILL TAKE YOU DOWN.

WHAT KIND OF A FOOL AT THAT POINT DOES OTHERWISE. THATS WHY HE GOT THROWN DOWN.

THEN HE HAD THE GALL TO FLAIL AND FIGHT BACK AND PUNCH.

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Also @TitoFan you cannot just compare jaywalking with getting punched 20 times in the face. That is not the way it went down bro and you know it. You are deliberately skipping a couple of steps in that sequence of events. When he tried to take him down the man vehemently resisted and put up a fight and started flailing his arms back at the officers face. In that case if you get punched in the face a couple of times by someone who you are trying to subdue then I believe you can Strike Back.

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I watched the video again. When he went to take him down, the man resisted, but the takedown took a split second. Once the guy was on the ground, the cop proceeded to pummel him. There's no way in that video you saw the guy punching the cop in the face. He had barely been slammed to the ground when the cop started to pummel him.

I get it that you don't like the prototypical hoodlum talking back at cops... I get it. It's a stupid move. But it doesn't excuse a cop, who's supposedly highly trained, to assault a human being in that fashion. Again, even after apprehending a murder suspect after a shootout and a high speed chase, there's no excuse for that kind of pummeling.

You're wrong, and you know it. Of course you won't back down, but it makes no difference.

I hope the cop gets charged, convicted, and jailed for assault and battery. There's gotta be some way to get it through the thick skull of these 'roided assholes that their badge and uniform isn't a licence to abuse citizens. And if he gets made someone's bitch while in prison..... well I guess that's just too bad.

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Also @TitoFan you cannot just compare jaywalking with getting punched 20 times in the face. That is not the way it went down bro and you know it. You are deliberately skipping a couple of steps in that sequence of events. When he tried to take him down the man vehemently resisted and put up a fight and started flailing his arms back at the officers face. In that case if you get punched in the face a couple of times by someone who you are trying to subdue then I believe you can Strike Back.

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I watched the video again. When he went to take him down, the man resisted, but the takedown took a split second. Once the guy was on the ground, the cop proceeded to pummel him. There's no way in that video you saw the guy punching the cop in the face. He had barely been slammed to the ground when the cop started to pummel him.

I get it that you don't like the prototypical hoodlum talking back at cops... I get it. It's a stupid move. But it doesn't excuse a cop, who's supposedly highly trained, to assault a human being in that fashion. Again, even after apprehending a murder suspect after a shootout and a high speed chase, there's no excuse for that kind of pummeling.

You're wrong, and you know it. Of course you won't back down, but it makes no difference.

I hope the cop gets charged, convicted, and jailed for assault and battery. There's gotta be some way to get it through the thick skull of these 'roided assholes that their badge and uniform isn't a licence to abuse citizens. And if he gets made someone's bitch while in prison..... well I guess that's just too bad.

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as he took him down, the suspect turned and threw a punch/flailed an arm at the cop's face, or at least he would not be subdued and in wriggling and twisting could have injured the cop. Up til that point you cant say the suspect had cooperated AT ALL and you know it, SO WHAT MAKES YOU THINK AS HE WAS BEING TAKEN DOWN HE WOULD SUDDENLY, MAGICALLY MAKE IT EASY FOR THE COP?

Brock, you've lost your mind, mate. The poor bloke did nothing wrong and was being harrassed by a man in a uniform. If you were to ask me who the criminal was I would have to say the one who was stalking a member of the public and then proceeded to beat him up. There is no public duty in behaving like that, you are basically at the same level of a street thug yourself. To then waste how much tax payer money in getting a fleet of cars involved and how many officers? My goodness, it's a joke, but not a funny one for the poor chap beaten up like that. To even defend it is lame Brock.

Brock lost his mind years ago.

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What has the % of voters got to do with that?

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If only that was true but that has nothing to do with how the man was treated.

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It's not true?

NYC Mayor Bill DeBlasio ordered the NYPD to crackdown on people selling untaxable/loose cigarettes and Eric Garner was resisting arrest for that very thing when he died.


Soooo you're telling me that Mayor DeBlasio (whom people voted for) was NOT acting in the interest of NYC when he ordered the police to crackdown on that because they were losing tax money?

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So a democratic mayor was against jaywalking and this occured

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That could be the case yes....in the case of Eric Garner it most certainly WAS how things were and what does Mayor DeBlasio do? He fucking blames the cops who were doing HIS bidding.


This COULD be just another case of police brutality, it COULD be due to the Mayor or elected official, it COULD be something else entirely....all I know is I don't much like it. I don't want people beaten like that for fucking jaywalking....at the same time, if an officer is asking me something/ordering me to do something I'll more than likely comply. If that officer gets an attitude with me, then I could very easily see myself in the place of the man stopped for jaywalking and I don't reckon I would like that all too well.


We've got a corrupt police force where I live, however we do have a mighty fine Sheriff (an elected official by the way). A county over they used to have a jackbooted thug of a Sheriff, he even had his deputies on steroids (no fucking lie, honest to God)!

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If only that was true but that has nothing to do with how the man was treated.

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It's not true?

NYC Mayor Bill DeBlasio ordered the NYPD to crackdown on people selling untaxable/loose cigarettes and Eric Garner was resisting arrest for that very thing when he died.


Soooo you're telling me that Mayor DeBlasio (whom people voted for) was NOT acting in the interest of NYC when he ordered the police to crackdown on that because they were losing tax money?

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So a democratic mayor was against jaywalking and this occured

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That could be the case yes....in the case of Eric Garner it most certainly WAS how things were and what does Mayor DeBlasio do? He fucking blames the cops who were doing HIS bidding.


This COULD be just another case of police brutality, it COULD be due to the Mayor or elected official, it COULD be something else entirely....all I know is I don't much like it. I don't want people beaten like that for fucking jaywalking....at the same time, if an officer is asking me something/ordering me to do something I'll more than likely comply. If that officer gets an attitude with me, then I could very easily see myself in the place of the man stopped for jaywalking and I don't reckon I would like that all too well.


We've got a corrupt police force where I live, however we do have a mighty fine Sheriff (an elected official by the way). A county over they used to have a jackbooted thug of a Sheriff, he even had his deputies on steroids (no fucking lie, honest to God)!

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A lot of cops do steroids. I had a friend who supplied an an entire city force in Ct with steroids. Probably why they are so aggressive