Juan Manuel Marquez Tells Pacquiao To His Face Floyd Would Kick His Ass On ESPN First

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The difference between pac and floyd is purely boxing.

Pac has to fight marquez 4 times over a period of so many years and still cant win a clear decison over an old fighter.

There is no need for floyd to fight marquez ever again as it was so clear the domination.

If its close again, its the leg cramp excuse.
Pac ducks bradley to fight an old marquez..boxing stinks.

If you want to judge them by common opponents then Manny is above Floyd.

He beat Cotto, Hatton, Oscar and Mosley more impressively than Floyd did.

Having close fights with a great like Marquez is nothing to be ashamed about. Floyd had two close fights with Castillo, arguably losing the first in many peoples eyes.

I think the hatton, oscar cotto and moseley that floyd fought were at a far better stage and weight as when they fought manny.

Obviously, im going to side with floyd and dont want to hijack the thread by talking about manny and floyds opponents but you wisely brought them up.

Floyd:-

Hatton-undefeated.(was never the same after floyd)

Oscar-his weight, his ring, his gloves, his rules.

Mosely:- after beating margacheato, no one wanted to fight him, even offered to do a catchweight with manny.

Cotto:- at his weight and not after a loss.

Weight makes all the difference.

Manny is great fighter but those common opponents were all at a disadvantage when fighting manny.

The Cotto that fought Pacquaio had a corner that had no clue as to how to put together a fight plan for Pacquiao. The Cotto that fought Floyd had Pedro Diaz in his corner, and the very best fight plan and conditioning to try and beat Floyd. Obviously it didn't work. That Cotto would've beaten Pac, IMO.

The Oscar that lost to Pac was a weight-drained, over-the-hill Oscar... looking for one more under-sized, famous scalp so he could ride off triumphantly into the sunset. It backfired in his face. The Oscar that lost to Floyd was much younger, closer to prime, and not weight-drained, fighting at 154.

The Mosley that fought Floyd was just coming off a crushing win over Margacheato, as mentioned by imp. His fight with Pac was later and toward the end of his career.

Hatton I won't include, because Hatton was in tip-top condition and said he was fighting for the world's p4p. Besides, he fought Floyd at 147, a weight he was NEVER comfortable at. He fought Pac at 140. Pac definitely put more of an exclamation point on his KTFO victory over Hatton than Floyd did.

Still, regardless of how each did against common opponents, Floyd beats the living daylights out of Pac if they were to meet today.

I agree tito.

But to elaborate a bit on hatton, a fighter can loose there prime instantly at any time and i never saw the old hatton after the floyd fight.

He changed trainers, taking coke behind the scenes..he wasnt the same.

I think we can all agree floyd beat these common fighters at a better time and better weight.

Floyd came of a 2YEAR retirement to fight the ring top dog marquez and played with..played with him!

Manny cant deal with fighters like marquez, morales, bradley..thats his achillis heel.

Floyd had a tough first one with castillo and considering he had a torn rotater on his left shoulder its amazing he still pulled out the win!