Frazier V Tyson

[Gandalf]

It's a bloody stupid argument. It is like suggesting that Khan's 'win' over Barrera meant anything. It meant nothing.

You can't take losses to journeymen at the end of a career as being anything more than just symbolic.

It happens to everyone and doesn't detract from what they once were.

[ElTerribleMorales]

It's a bloody stupid argument. It is like suggesting that Khan's 'win' over Barrera meant anything. It meant nothing.

You can't take losses to journeymen at the end of a career as being anything more than just symbolic.

It happens to everyone and doesn't detract from what they once were.

thing is Tyson was always a mentally weak fighter, even in his prime, the first time someone stood up to him and went blow to blow with him, he lost, it's not a coincidence that it became a habit afterwards either, he barely made it out alive against Ruddock, and well you know how the Holyfield fights went, it's absurd to say that Mike Tyson was ever a mentally strong fighter when faced with adversity and yes someone stepping up to you and going tooth and nail with you would be adversity to a prime Tyson seeing how everyone would basically roll over for Mike when he was in his prime

[Gandalf]

It's a bloody stupid argument. It is like suggesting that Khan's 'win' over Barrera meant anything. It meant nothing.

You can't take losses to journeymen at the end of a career as being anything more than just symbolic.

It happens to everyone and doesn't detract from what they once were.

thing is Tyson was always a mentally weak fighter, even in his prime, the first time someone stood up to him and went blow to blow with him, he lost, it's not a coincidence that it became a habit afterwards either, he barely made it out alive against Ruddock, and well you know how the Holyfield fights went, it's absurd to say that Mike Tyson was ever a mentally strong fighter when faced with adversity and yes someone stepping up to you and going tooth and nail with you would be adversity to a prime Tyson seeing how everyone would basically roll over for Mike when he was in his prime

You are talking gibberish.

Tyson beat Ruddock fairly easily both times and took plenty of leather. That is not a man who is mentally weak. Tyson only became more mentally vulnerable after 3 years inside and it would do the same to any fighter.

I maintain my previous argument. You evaluate a fighter on his prime and prime Tyson was a monster.