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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    how many rounds did Tyson win against Lewis?
    Yes your right, Mike only wan the first but on all three judges cards and had that been the the Tyson that fought Holmes, the one that rarely got hit, Lewis would have turned in to Bonecrusher and held on like he had a habit of doing.

    Yes, this was an old shot Tyson who could really not do much with Lewis but he still managed to last 2 full rounds longer. Then Vitali gets the (apparently) underprepared version

    If Mike can last 8 rounds with one of the divisions biggest ever punchers by just basically taking right hands for 8 rounds, I do believe the version from 14 years previous who is as much known for his defence as his speed and power would have
    At the very least lasted the full 12, whereas a "prime" Vitali couldnt last as long as the shot version of Mike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    how many rounds did Tyson win against Lewis?
    Yes your right, Mike only wan the first but on all three judges cards and had that been the the Tyson that fought Holmes, the one that rarely got hit, Lewis would have turned in to Bonecrusher and held on like he had a habit of doing.

    Yes, this was an old shot Tyson who could really not do much with Lewis but he still managed to last 2 full rounds longer. Then Vitali gets the (apparently) underprepared version

    If Mike can last 8 rounds with one of the divisions biggest ever punchers by just basically taking right hands for 8 rounds, I do believe the version from 14 years previous who is as much known for his defence as his speed and power would have
    At the very least lasted the full 12, whereas a "prime" Vitali couldnt last as long as the shot version of Mike.
    based on what? Lewis is of a higher caliber than Douglas and he got the job done against an undefeated Tyson, who's to say that Tyson would have even beaten a focused Riddick fucking Bowe? funny you keep bringing up Vitali's loss to Lewis yet that's not even considered the best or "prime" version of Vitali, the Vitali Klitschko of recent years is considered to be a lot more technically and strategically skilled than the one that took on Lewis, albeit an older version, Mike couldn't handle a 6'3 Douglas who wasn't known for having a great chin pumping his jab in his face, who's to say that he would have been able to cope against a 6'7 iron kettle for a chin Vitali who has 9 inches of reach and more or less 40 lbs of muscle on him and whom doesn't take a back step? seriously bro, Tyson in his prime was good....but he wasn't THAT good

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    Vitali is far too slow and ponderous to handle a prime quick Tyson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Vitali is far too slow and ponderous to handle a prime quick Tyson.
    Suuuure

    6'8, never been down, more power, more stamina, smarter fighter...he would stomp Tyson.

    Wlad would have a very solid shot vs Tyson...though people would complain that he fought "timidly", he has the skill set to dominate Tyson's style.

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    based on what? Lewis is of a higher caliber than Douglas and he got the job done against an undefeated Tyson, who's to say that Tyson would have even beaten a focused Riddick fucking Bowe? funny you keep bringing up Vitali's loss to Lewis yet that's not even considered the best or "prime" version of Vitali, the Vitali Klitschko of recent years is considered to be a lot more technically and strategically skilled than the one that took on Lewis, albeit an older version, Mike couldn't handle a 6'3 Douglas who wasn't known for having a great chin pumping his jab in his face, who's to say that he would have been able to cope against a 6'7 iron kettle for a chin Vitali who has 9 inches of reach and more or less 40 lbs of muscle on him and whom doesn't take a back step? seriously bro, Tyson in his prime was good....but he wasn't THAT good

    Ah now your just reaching...

    Lewis didnt face the best version of Vitali? Well what version of Lewis did Vitali face? Weak argument. Plus he gave up against Byrd.

    It is well known Mike wasnt training properly for the Douglas fit, getting beaten up in sparring (that had never happened before). He still managed to drop Douglas hard late in the fight. If Mike had still cared about the sport rather than the paydays then he would have gone through Douglas.

    Also, Sanders dropped Vitali in the first and had him worried with an Audley look!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    based on what? Lewis is of a higher caliber than Douglas and he got the job done against an undefeated Tyson, who's to say that Tyson would have even beaten a focused Riddick fucking Bowe? funny you keep bringing up Vitali's loss to Lewis yet that's not even considered the best or "prime" version of Vitali, the Vitali Klitschko of recent years is considered to be a lot more technically and strategically skilled than the one that took on Lewis, albeit an older version, Mike couldn't handle a 6'3 Douglas who wasn't known for having a great chin pumping his jab in his face, who's to say that he would have been able to cope against a 6'7 iron kettle for a chin Vitali who has 9 inches of reach and more or less 40 lbs of muscle on him and whom doesn't take a back step? seriously bro, Tyson in his prime was good....but he wasn't THAT good

    Ah now your just reaching...

    Lewis didnt face the best version of Vitali? Well what version of Lewis did Vitali face? Weak argument. Plus he gave up against Byrd.

    It is well known Mike wasnt training properly for the Douglas fit, getting beaten up in sparring (that had never happened before). He still managed to drop Douglas hard late in the fight. If Mike had still cared about the sport rather than the paydays then he would have gone through Douglas.

    Also, Sanders dropped Vitali in the first and had him worried with an Audley look!

    WHAT FIGHT WERE YOU WATCHING?!?! Vitali slipped in the first round, theres a reason it was called a slip, look who's reaching hahahaha

    i'm just gonna leave it there dude, cause seriously your life revolves around the delicate concept that Tyson was a God in the ring, and I have now come to realize that if that's taken from you that you're going to crumble into a mess just like your hero

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    based on what? Lewis is of a higher caliber than Douglas and he got the job done against an undefeated Tyson, who's to say that Tyson would have even beaten a focused Riddick fucking Bowe? funny you keep bringing up Vitali's loss to Lewis yet that's not even considered the best or "prime" version of Vitali, the Vitali Klitschko of recent years is considered to be a lot more technically and strategically skilled than the one that took on Lewis, albeit an older version, Mike couldn't handle a 6'3 Douglas who wasn't known for having a great chin pumping his jab in his face, who's to say that he would have been able to cope against a 6'7 iron kettle for a chin Vitali who has 9 inches of reach and more or less 40 lbs of muscle on him and whom doesn't take a back step? seriously bro, Tyson in his prime was good....but he wasn't THAT good

    Ah now your just reaching...

    Lewis didnt face the best version of Vitali? Well what version of Lewis did Vitali face? Weak argument. Plus he gave up against Byrd.

    It is well known Mike wasnt training properly for the Douglas fit, getting beaten up in sparring (that had never happened before). He still managed to drop Douglas hard late in the fight. If Mike had still cared about the sport rather than the paydays then he would have gone through Douglas.

    Also, Sanders dropped Vitali in the first and had him worried with an Audley look!

    WHAT FIGHT WERE YOU WATCHING?!?! Vitali slipped in the first round, theres a reason it was called a slip, look who's reaching hahahaha

    i'm just gonna leave it there dude, cause seriously your life revolves around the delicate concept that Tyson was a God in the ring, and I have now come to realize that if that's taken from you that you're going to crumble into a mess just like your hero
    Ah bless you. I missed some of those replies to you but it looks as though im not alone in thinking you know barely anything about boxing

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