Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post

taking peds is just as severe as having the plaster in the gloves that margarito did

peds make you 20% faster 20% quicker on your feet 20% stronger 20% harder punch, probably even help you take a punch better

if you believe what margarito did was any more severe or dangerous to his opponents than what mosely or holyfield or toney or klitchko did then you are very naive

This sounds like the more naive position to me. How come NONE of their opponents came out looking like Billy Collins?! All world champion caliber; contrast with LUIS FREAKIN' RESTO. Washed-up journeyman vs. A solid prospect. Luis Resto + 20% doesn't give you Billy Collins.