Phuck Margacheato!!! I hope Cotto punishes him, and I dont even like cotto...

[Onix]

IF Cotto wins then I will congradulate him and call it a night and depending on the way it all goes down It will strengthen my position that he did cheat but will Cotto fans be able to do the same??

We'll find out really soon!

Personally, I don't recall ever making outrageous excuses or disappearing from the forum when a fav fighter of mine loses. Onix, you're free to look up any examples to the contrary.

Hey, if Cotto loses, obviously it won't be due to any plaster this time. I'm sure Margacheato's wraps will be looked at under a microscope. And Cotto I believe has prepared as well as I guess he's capable of preparing. (I'm not necessarily happy that he changed from Emanuel Stewart to this unknown entity, but that's another story).

No... if Cotto loses, I'll accept it and move on. I'll still be here, taking my lumps along with the rest of the Cotto fans. I'll still be a Cotto fan..... and I'll still hate Margacheato's guts (for the piece of shit human being I believe he is). But I'll accept defeat graciously.

How's that?

I just dont understand why such hate, I mean we think he cheated on the cotto fight but if he wins it might make us think he didnt cheat in that fight, then what is he still the same piece of garbage?

[shza]

IF Cotto wins then I will congradulate him and call it a night and depending on the way it all goes down It will strengthen my position that he did cheat but will Cotto fans be able to do the same??

We'll find out really soon!

Personally, I don't recall ever making outrageous excuses or disappearing from the forum when a fav fighter of mine loses. Onix, you're free to look up any examples to the contrary.

Hey, if Cotto loses, obviously it won't be due to any plaster this time. I'm sure Margacheato's wraps will be looked at under a microscope. And Cotto I believe has prepared as well as I guess he's capable of preparing. (I'm not necessarily happy that he changed from Emanuel Stewart to this unknown entity, but that's another story).

No... if Cotto loses, I'll accept it and move on. I'll still be here, taking my lumps along with the rest of the Cotto fans. I'll still be a Cotto fan..... and I'll still hate Margacheato's guts (for the piece of shit human being I believe he is). But I'll accept defeat graciously.

How's that?

I just dont understand why such hate, I mean we think he cheated on the cotto fight but if he wins it might make us think he didnt cheat in that fight, then what is he still the same piece of garbage?

He still tried to cheat in the Moseley fight. That's enough for me. Add to that how much of a prick he comes off as outside the ring, and I get (and share) the negative reaction.

[TitoFan]

IF Cotto wins then I will congradulate him and call it a night and depending on the way it all goes down It will strengthen my position that he did cheat but will Cotto fans be able to do the same??

We'll find out really soon!

Personally, I don't recall ever making outrageous excuses or disappearing from the forum when a fav fighter of mine loses. Onix, you're free to look up any examples to the contrary.

Hey, if Cotto loses, obviously it won't be due to any plaster this time. I'm sure Margacheato's wraps will be looked at under a microscope. And Cotto I believe has prepared as well as I guess he's capable of preparing. (I'm not necessarily happy that he changed from Emanuel Stewart to this unknown entity, but that's another story).

No... if Cotto loses, I'll accept it and move on. I'll still be here, taking my lumps along with the rest of the Cotto fans. I'll still be a Cotto fan..... and I'll still hate Margacheato's guts (for the piece of shit human being I believe he is). But I'll accept defeat graciously.

How's that?

I just dont understand why such hate, I mean we think he cheated on the cotto fight but if he wins it might make us think he didnt cheat in that fight, then what is he still the same piece of garbage?

Onix, this is just my opinion, but..... if Margarito wins again, obviously it will be fair-and-square, especially with all the scrutiny he's undergoing. BUT.... it doesn't rule out that he may have cheated in the first fight.

Remember:

1. He was caught trying to cheat against Mosely. That alone can cast a reasonable doubt over previous fights, especially since Cotto's face was so badly damaged from those blows. Other fighters, including Cotto have gotten hit that many times before and not suffered the damage Cotto did.

2. Among the pluses and minuses for this upcoming fight, Margarito holds one particular edge over Cotto.... the psychological edge. Once you've taking such a pounding like Cotto did, it's hard to overcome that when you're facing the same fighter again. Cotto may have bounced back against other opponents after Margarito, but we don't know until the bell sounds how he'll react to getting hit by Margarito again.

Finally..... win or lose, Margarito has made it his business to be seen as the bad guy. He says so himself. So much so, and such a good job he's done.... that I've gotten caught up in the hate. Interestingly enough, I didn't hate Margarito when he was first making a name for himself. He seemed like a personable enough dude. But then you start adding up all the stuff he does and the way he acts.... and it's gotten so I just can't stand the guy.

[LobowolfXXX]

2. Among the pluses and minuses for this upcoming fight, Margarito holds one particular edge over Cotto.... the psychological edge.

I don't think Margarito has the psychological edge. If you watch the Kellerman interview, Margarito is very excitable as he reminds Cotto and Kellerman that he won the first fight, and Cotto is very calm as he, "Yes, and I've lived with that." If Margarito cheated in the first fight, then he may have to convince himself that he could win without loaded gloves. And if Cotto thinks Margarito cheated, whether he did or not, and he seems to, then that sort of eliminates the typical psychological disadvantage. Cotto seems supremely confident to me; I think he's of the opinion that he never would have lost to Margarito without loaded gloves, and the gloves will be good this time, so no problem. Given the lingering doubts about the gloves in the first fight, and the pressure on Margarito to prove that he can beat Cotto fair and square, I think if anything, Cotto has a psychological edge, and their demeanors reflected that.

[TitoFan]

2. Among the pluses and minuses for this upcoming fight, Margarito holds one particular edge over Cotto.... the psychological edge.

I don't think Margarito has the psychological edge. If you watch the Kellerman interview, Margarito is very excitable as he reminds Cotto and Kellerman that he won the first fight, and Cotto is very calm as he, "Yes, and I've lived with that." If Margarito cheated in the first fight, then he may have to convince himself that he could win without loaded gloves. And if Cotto thinks Margarito cheated, whether he did or not, and he seems to, then that sort of eliminates the typical psychological disadvantage. Cotto seems supremely confident to me; I think he's of the opinion that he never would have lost to Margarito without loaded gloves, and the gloves will be good this time, so no problem. Given the lingering doubts about the gloves in the first fight, and the pressure on Margarito to prove that he can beat Cotto fair and square, I think if anything, Cotto has a psychological edge, and their demeanors reflected that.

Good point.... you might be right. But typically, the psychological edge I mentioned does exist. This may be an atypical situation, though.

[Chino]

2. Among the pluses and minuses for this upcoming fight, Margarito holds one particular edge over Cotto.... the psychological edge.

I don't think Margarito has the psychological edge. If you watch the Kellerman interview, Margarito is very excitable as he reminds Cotto and Kellerman that he won the first fight, and Cotto is very calm as he, "Yes, and I've lived with that." If Margarito cheated in the first fight, then he may have to convince himself that he could win without loaded gloves. And if Cotto thinks Margarito cheated, whether he did or not, and he seems to, then that sort of eliminates the typical psychological disadvantage. Cotto seems supremely confident to me; I think he's of the opinion that he never would have lost to Margarito without loaded gloves, and the gloves will be good this time, so no problem. Given the lingering doubts about the gloves in the first fight, and the pressure on Margarito to prove that he can beat Cotto fair and square, I think if anything, Cotto has a psychological edge, and their demeanors reflected that.

I wonder if it won’t affect Cotto phsychologicaly the fact that his punches didn’t do a thing to Margarito and he kept walking forward like a tank. It’s not like Margarito put plaster on his face.

[LobowolfXXX]

He might fight it harder to stand up to a guy who isn't weakened by a battering with loaded gloves.

[Onix]

2. Among the pluses and minuses for this upcoming fight, Margarito holds one particular edge over Cotto.... the psychological edge.

I don't think Margarito has the psychological edge. If you watch the Kellerman interview, Margarito is very excitable as he reminds Cotto and Kellerman that he won the first fight, and Cotto is very calm as he, "Yes, and I've lived with that." If Margarito cheated in the first fight, then he may have to convince himself that he could win without loaded gloves. And if Cotto thinks Margarito cheated, whether he did or not, and he seems to, then that sort of eliminates the typical psychological disadvantage. Cotto seems supremely confident to me; I think he's of the opinion that he never would have lost to Margarito without loaded gloves, and the gloves will be good this time, so no problem. Given the lingering doubts about the gloves in the first fight, and the pressure on Margarito to prove that he can beat Cotto fair and square, I think if anything, Cotto has a psychological edge, and their demeanors reflected that.

I wonder if it won’t affect Cotto phsychologicaly the fact that his punches didn’t do a thing to Margarito and he kept walking forward like a tank. It’s not like Margarito put plaster on his face.

If there is one single thing that can win this fight itll be Margarito's chin unless the beatings he's taken have taken the stuffing out of him