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Eric Morales must be higher than you have him.
I can't rank him above any of : Salvador Sanchez , Julio Cesar Chavez .
I also think that both of d Jose Luis were better (Ramirez and Lopez) and despite I can bare ranking Morales above Marquez , I don't think like it .
So how and Y should i have rated Morales higher ? I ranked him above popular picks such as Olivares , Zarate , Saldivar and Ricardo Lopez . I also ranked him above Barera , despite Barera fighting Marquez and Hamed whereas Morales did not .
Jose Luis Ramirez and Jose Luis Lopez were not better than Morales. Eric was an elite fighter these two were clearly not.
Jose Luis Ramirez stopped Edwin Rosario and since i watched their 1st fight as well i can tell u that he didn;t lose that 1 either .
Ramirez loss 2 Chavez was by Technical decision due 2 Chavez' butting of him and although Chavez was ahead on points he was younger so it was Xpected and u don't know how it would've ended if d butting did not occur . Ramirez while clearly past his prime rightfully deserved d decision against Pernell Whitaker which is considered a robbery by most since they haven't watched it from start 2 finish @ original speed like i did .
Whitaker did nothing Xcept from retreating and escaping .
Ramirez also deserved d decision over Alexis Arguello , 99:98 was d least i could score it in favor of Ramirez .
I think that winning against Rosario , Whitaker and Arguello and going d distance with Camacho , Rosario and most probably with Chavez if it wasn't 4 d headbutt and then also Juan Martin Coggi surpasses 3 close fights with Barera , a KO over a probably drained Junior Jones and a decision over Kevin Kelley . Morales' close decision over Pacquiao was well reversed by 2 stoppage losses 2 him and got overrated .
You are biasly defending Ramirez and no way was he an elite fighter Eric Morales who won the title against Zaragoza (who had just beaten Wayne McCullough so was not past his prime), Barrera (in a ATG fight), Jones, Kelly, In Jin Chin, etc