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    Default Re: Top fighters out of every country

    Quote Originally Posted by frankenfrank View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
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    I'll start with 1 of d most popular if not d popular outside of d U.S of course :

    Puerto Rico :
    1. Juan LaPorte
    2. Hector Camacho
    3. Carlos Ortiz
    4. Wilfredo Gomez
    5. Sixto Escobar
    6. Wilfred Benitez
    7. Esteban DeJesus
    8. Edwin Viruet
    9. John John Molina
    10. Adolfo Viruet

    11. Frankie Narvarez
    12. Edwin Rosario
    13. Wilfredo Vasquez

    Mexico :
    1. Salvador Sanchez
    2. Julio Cesar Chavez
    3. Juan Manuel Marquez
    4. Jose Luis Lopez
    5. Jose Luis Ramirez
    6. Carlos Palomino
    7. Erik Morales
    8. Ruben Olivares
    9. Rafael Herrera
    10. Chucho Castillo

    11. Carlos Zarate
    12. Rosendo Alvarez
    13. Ricardo Lopez
    14. Marco Antonio Barrera
    15. Baby Arizmendi
    16. Alfonso Zamora
    17. Jose Medel
    18. Jorge Arce
    19. Gilberto Roman
    20. Genaro Hernandez

    21. Christian Mijares
    22. Raul Perez

    It seems 2 me that Olivares , Herrera & Castillo r all swappable , 2 know better i need 2 know especially about each of their stoppage losses .
    Rosendo Alvarez lost on paper 2 Ricardo Lopez (draw & a split decision) but had much more longevity 2 his prime and had a slightly better opposition . They r swappable , but i wanted 2 emphasize just how much . 2 me , a close decision win or lose is considered a draw and I don't care how many "wins" , "losses" or "KOs" a fighter has . I care y , how & vs who .


    2 prevent any discrimination against d U.S born :

    1. Oscar Delahoya
    2. Manuel Ortiz
    3. Orlando Canizales
    4. Micahel Carbajal
    5. Danny Perez
    6. Gaby Canizales
    7. Carlos Hernandez
    8. Richie Sandoval
    9. Juan Escobar ("Rudy")
    10. Alberto Davila

    11. Bobby Chacon

    Loaded gloved Antonio Margachito and Chito Trinidad will not b introduced 2 any of my list but my Hall Of Shame .

    This list may undergo fixes but don't criticize me b4 u present your own alternative 2 it .
    Finding a slight mistake is easier than compiling it all from virtually nothing .
    Both Olivares and Zarate are way to low, they both could've been crowned King Of Mexico at some point in their career they were that popular. I have them both ahead of Palomino and Ramirez and top 5.
    Zarate's resume is weak . I don't even count his "losses" 2 Pintor and Gomez as losses but look @ who he beat : Zamora and this is about where it ends . And Zamora wasn't great or near great anyway . Zamora's loss 2 some1 like Zarate counts against him more than Zarate's win over Zamora counts in his favor . Both r almost totally unproven . 2 1 hit wonders .
    As 4 Olivares he is proven , but look @ his outcomes against Castillo & Herrera . 4 me he lost 2 each 1 of them in each 1 of their encounters . He was floored in his "winning" efforts against Castillo and was stopped due 2 cuts in another 1 of their encounters .
    Olivares was not even Mexico's greatest bantamweight of his era , it's 2 close between himself , Castillo & Herera and if only d 3 of them had existed and their fights would have ended Xactly d way they had , i'd have them ranked like this :
    1. Castillo (stopped Herera , cut Olivares and actually beat Olivares twice more but got robbed)
    2. Herera (stopped Olivares twice but was stopped by Castillo)
    3. Olivares (could just never beat Castillo or Hererra in 5 overall opportunities)
    A bit Harsh on Olivares, he beat up on Castillo in the 3rd fight and Herrera just had his measure. How was Castillo robbed? If Olivares wasn't his era's best bantamweight 1968-1972 then who was? His style was always going to be risky in fights, he kept on coming forward and fought some wars. I'm not seeing anyone better than him in that era. Herrera just didn't go on with it.
    Last edited by THE THIRD MAN; 07-07-2012 at 06:53 AM.

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