Mayweather - Cotto 2, December 1st, MGM Grand

[Onix]

Canelo has yet to headline any ppv. My best guess is that if you took a random survey of Americans, more people would have heard of Cotto than Canelo. I'm sure that will change but he's not there yet. It's fine -- as you said, he's only 21.

Ok... one last ditch attempt to keep this objective. Here's a perfectly good post from an objective observer. Read it... and tell me ANYTHING he said there that's not correct. See... here's the difference between you guys (Onix and VD) and myself: I give Mexican fighters (some) their props when they're deserved. And don't take my word for it. Go back through my posts and you'll see. You (Onix) give Puerto Rican fighters props... but they're usually backhanded compliments meant to give as much praise as to dump shit on them. Whereas VD doesn't even bother. He just blurts out his anti-Puerto Rican shit whenever it suits him.... and has NEVER given any Puerto Rican fighter props or credit for ANYTHING. Which of course seriously undermines the little credibility he thinks he has here. Nobody really takes him seriously. He's more like a cartoon character. He thinks up cool-sounding one-liners and uses them to make himself sound tough and "bad to the bone".

Even something as straightforward and simple as who's the biggest star right now, between Cotto and Canelo, turns into a PR vs. Mexican affair. But don't take my word for it. Read the objective, uninterested opinion of the attached post. That says it all. Not how many Mexicans vs. how many Puerto Ricans exist. That has absolutely nothing to do with it, and is an asinine argument. If you go strictly by PPV numbers, you gotta know Cotto blows Canelo away just because he's been a star that much longer, and has headlined many PPV events, whereas Canelo has yet to headline ONE. You gotta be blind not to see that. And of course you both fit that description perfectly. At least Onix has streaks of clear-headedness where he sees the light once in awhile, and will admit to a few things. But then that slight flicker of light goes out and he's back to insulting and making asinine arguments. (Hence the nickname Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde). But VD is another story altogether. His thuggish personna prevents him from having any sense of objectiveness about boxing whatsoever. So he resorts to calling people fags, punks, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah. It's worked on some people, I guess. But VD... you want some advice? The act is wearing thin. You gotta get by on something more than just street talk and poor attempts at intimidation. Try it... you might be surprised at the results.

What the fuck are you talking about? It never fails. You and that other clown always post a bunch of useless nonsense that has nothing to do with anything as a way to cover up the fact that you can't counter shit I say. And I swear to God you 2 are without a doubt the 2 biggest pussies alive. Where is the street talk at? Where's the intimidation attempt? I'm stating straight facts. The fact that you take it that way makes me feel sorry for you. I can only imagine what you go through in real life. You always go to the intimidation attempt nonsense when you can't counter what I say or to piggy back your lies off it. Case in point. Show me where I said Alvarez is a bigger star than Cotto? Show me where I said he was a bigger PPV star than Cotto? This thread ain't that long. Shouldn't be to hard to find them. Or maybe there just made up lies.

Tito was referring to me on that one, I said Canelo might be the bigger cash draw. I still stand by that. I wont try explaining why because Tito wants to ignore that point and make it about ethnicity