Mayweather - Cotto 2, December 1st, MGM Grand

[ElTerribleMorales]

Word is spreading that Alvarez's next opponent may be Maidana. All I can say is lets hope its a piss poor attempt at a joke.

wouldn't doubt it and VD will try to play it up by saying "NO ONE HAS EVER STOPPED MAIDANA" , hell the ginger would get more credit for fighting at least Quintana or Molina, but that doesn't fit his MO of taking on much smaller or shot fighters

[Violent Demise]

Canelo has yet to headline any ppv. My best guess is that if you took a random survey of Americans, more people would have heard of Cotto than Canelo. I'm sure that will change but he's not there yet. It's fine -- as you said, he's only 21.

Ok... one last ditch attempt to keep this objective. Here's a perfectly good post from an objective observer. Read it... and tell me ANYTHING he said there that's not correct. See... here's the difference between you guys (Onix and VD) and myself: I give Mexican fighters (some) their props when they're deserved. And don't take my word for it. Go back through my posts and you'll see. You (Onix) give Puerto Rican fighters props... but they're usually backhanded compliments meant to give as much praise as to dump shit on them. Whereas VD doesn't even bother. He just blurts out his anti-Puerto Rican shit whenever it suits him.... and has NEVER given any Puerto Rican fighter props or credit for ANYTHING. Which of course seriously undermines the little credibility he thinks he has here. Nobody really takes him seriously. He's more like a cartoon character. He thinks up cool-sounding one-liners and uses them to make himself sound tough and "bad to the bone".

Even something as straightforward and simple as who's the biggest star right now, between Cotto and Canelo, turns into a PR vs. Mexican affair. But don't take my word for it. Read the objective, uninterested opinion of the attached post. That says it all. Not how many Mexicans vs. how many Puerto Ricans exist. That has absolutely nothing to do with it, and is an asinine argument. If you go strictly by PPV numbers, you gotta know Cotto blows Canelo away just because he's been a star that much longer, and has headlined many PPV events, whereas Canelo has yet to headline ONE. You gotta be blind not to see that. And of course you both fit that description perfectly. At least Onix has streaks of clear-headedness where he sees the light once in awhile, and will admit to a few things. But then that slight flicker of light goes out and he's back to insulting and making asinine arguments. (Hence the nickname Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde). But VD is another story altogether. His thuggish personna prevents him from having any sense of objectiveness about boxing whatsoever. So he resorts to calling people fags, punks, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah. It's worked on some people, I guess. But VD... you want some advice? The act is wearing thin. You gotta get by on something more than just street talk and poor attempts at intimidation. Try it... you might be surprised at the results.

What the fuck are you talking about? It never fails. You and that other clown always post a bunch of useless nonsense that has nothing to do with anything as a way to cover up the fact that you can't counter shit I say. And I swear to God you 2 are without a doubt the 2 biggest pussies alive. Where is the street talk at? Where's the intimidation attempt? I'm stating straight facts. The fact that you take it that way makes me feel sorry for you. I can only imagine what you go through in real life. You always go to the intimidation attempt nonsense when you can't counter what I say or to piggy back your lies off it. Case in point. Show me where I said Alvarez is a bigger star than Cotto? Show me where I said he was a bigger PPV star than Cotto? This thread ain't that long. Shouldn't be to hard to find them. Or maybe there just made up lies.

Tito was referring to me on that one, I said Canelo might be the bigger cash draw. I still stand by that. I wont try explaining why because Tito wants to ignore that point and make it about ethnicity

It's not the first time he's coward away and avoided posts directed to him.

Word is spreading that Alvarez's next opponent may be Maidana. All I can say is lets hope its a piss poor attempt at a joke.

wouldn't doubt it and VD will try to play it up by saying "NO ONE HAS EVER STOPPED MAIDANA" , hell the ginger would get more credit for fighting at least Quintana or Molina, but that doesn't fit his MO of taking on much smaller or shot fighters

Cuz Kirkland, Williams, Ortiz, Cotto are all smaller, lesser fighters right? Alvarez has done what he can to make a big fight. Not his fault Kirkland got greedy. Not his fault Williams decided to be a stand up comic. Not his fault the bitch in Ortiz came out again. And it's not his fault Cotto would rather take a fight he has no chance to win just for the money. LIke I told you before, you know nothing about boxing. I'm sure you know what Cotto ate for lunch and I'm sure you know how many times Cotto grabbed the ass of that fat friend he shares a bed with. But that's all you know. I read your posts just to see you make a fool of yourself. And it never fails. Case in point. You bitching and crying like a little girl that Alvarez only fights old, shot, smaller fighters. Than being the dumb fuck that you are you say he would get credit for fighting Carlos Quintana. The fuck he would. Quintana is 35. Naturally smaller. And hasn't beaten anyone that's any good since 2008 (Lattimore was/is garbage). He's everything your moronic ass has been complaning about. It's just to easy with you.

[Leighton]

Not interested in seeing a rematch. Would love to see cotto fight Martinez, Alvarez, Bradley or Pac again just to see how he does against Pac in comparrison to Floyd. I know the opponents I have chosen span three weight devisions but they are only one up and one down for him.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Canelo has yet to headline any ppv. My best guess is that if you took a random survey of Americans, more people would have heard of Cotto than Canelo. I'm sure that will change but he's not there yet. It's fine -- as you said, he's only 21.

Ok... one last ditch attempt to keep this objective. Here's a perfectly good post from an objective observer. Read it... and tell me ANYTHING he said there that's not correct. See... here's the difference between you guys (Onix and VD) and myself: I give Mexican fighters (some) their props when they're deserved. And don't take my word for it. Go back through my posts and you'll see. You (Onix) give Puerto Rican fighters props... but they're usually backhanded compliments meant to give as much praise as to dump shit on them. Whereas VD doesn't even bother. He just blurts out his anti-Puerto Rican shit whenever it suits him.... and has NEVER given any Puerto Rican fighter props or credit for ANYTHING. Which of course seriously undermines the little credibility he thinks he has here. Nobody really takes him seriously. He's more like a cartoon character. He thinks up cool-sounding one-liners and uses them to make himself sound tough and "bad to the bone".

Even something as straightforward and simple as who's the biggest star right now, between Cotto and Canelo, turns into a PR vs. Mexican affair. But don't take my word for it. Read the objective, uninterested opinion of the attached post. That says it all. Not how many Mexicans vs. how many Puerto Ricans exist. That has absolutely nothing to do with it, and is an asinine argument. If you go strictly by PPV numbers, you gotta know Cotto blows Canelo away just because he's been a star that much longer, and has headlined many PPV events, whereas Canelo has yet to headline ONE. You gotta be blind not to see that. And of course you both fit that description perfectly. At least Onix has streaks of clear-headedness where he sees the light once in awhile, and will admit to a few things. But then that slight flicker of light goes out and he's back to insulting and making asinine arguments. (Hence the nickname Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde). But VD is another story altogether. His thuggish personna prevents him from having any sense of objectiveness about boxing whatsoever. So he resorts to calling people fags, punks, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah. It's worked on some people, I guess. But VD... you want some advice? The act is wearing thin. You gotta get by on something more than just street talk and poor attempts at intimidation. Try it... you might be surprised at the results.

What the fuck are you talking about? It never fails. You and that other clown always post a bunch of useless nonsense that has nothing to do with anything as a way to cover up the fact that you can't counter shit I say. And I swear to God you 2 are without a doubt the 2 biggest pussies alive. Where is the street talk at? Where's the intimidation attempt? I'm stating straight facts. The fact that you take it that way makes me feel sorry for you. I can only imagine what you go through in real life. You always go to the intimidation attempt nonsense when you can't counter what I say or to piggy back your lies off it. Case in point. Show me where I said Alvarez is a bigger star than Cotto? Show me where I said he was a bigger PPV star than Cotto? This thread ain't that long. Shouldn't be to hard to find them. Or maybe there just made up lies.

Tito was referring to me on that one, I said Canelo might be the bigger cash draw. I still stand by that. I wont try explaining why because Tito wants to ignore that point and make it about ethnicity

It's not the first time he's coward away and avoided posts directed to him.

Word is spreading that Alvarez's next opponent may be Maidana. All I can say is lets hope its a piss poor attempt at a joke.

wouldn't doubt it and VD will try to play it up by saying "NO ONE HAS EVER STOPPED MAIDANA" , hell the ginger would get more credit for fighting at least Quintana or Molina, but that doesn't fit his MO of taking on much smaller or shot fighters

Cuz Kirkland, Williams, Ortiz, Cotto are all smaller, lesser fighters right? Alvarez has done what he can to make a big fight. Not his fault Kirkland got greedy. Not his fault Williams decided to be a stand up comic. Not his fault the bitch in Ortiz came out again. And it's not his fault Cotto would rather take a fight he has no chance to win just for the money. LIke I told you before, you know nothing about boxing. I'm sure you know what Cotto ate for lunch and I'm sure you know how many times Cotto grabbed the ass of that fat friend he shares a bed with. But that's all you know. I read your posts just to see you make a fool of yourself. And it never fails. Case in point. You bitching and crying like a little girl that Alvarez only fights old, shot, smaller fighters. Than being the dumb fuck that you are you say he would get credit for fighting Carlos Quintana. The fuck he would. Quintana is 35. Naturally smaller. And hasn't beaten anyone that's any good since 2008 (Lattimore was/is garbage). He's everything your moronic ass has been complaning about. It's just to easy with you.

I already pointed out why the Kirkland and Williams fights weren't coming off you whiney cunt lol Ortiz was just another smaller fighter that Alvarez was looking to put on his resume, and Quintana looked a hell of a lot better than Ortiz in his last fight didn't he, he already has experience at 154 and presents more of a challenge than others due to his style and the fact that he's a lefty, you well as always choose to ignore those details and you ignore the fact that I also mentioned Molina, the same Molina who was whooping Kirkland, who already beat Cintron, and was robbed against Lara, and there's a difference between fighting a guy who's moving up one division especially a division he's already had success in, compared to fighting a guy moving up to his 3rd weight class with no previous history at that weight when he's 1-2 at welterweight to boot =/, hell even Mosley was only 4-2-1-1 at 154 (should have been 3-3-1-1 cause he didn't beat DLH) and 1-3-1 in his last 5 fights, for fucks sake he had just gotten his ass wrecked by Pacquiao a year earlier and Manny actually knocked him down the much bigger ginger couldn't even get that in, you already have a long history of manipulating facts to make them work for you but well nothing is gonna change the fact that the ginger wont fight anyone worth a shit come September cause he refuses to take a risk, and that Cotto despite not being (according to you) a "superstar" is still gonna get the big names and big money fights be it against Mayweather, Pacquiao, or anyone else who can actually say they can sell a PPV cause as we all know the ginger has never done so