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    He was a smallish lightwelter weight and even smaller welterweight. His strength won't be much of a factor at 147, making him a bit of an unfortunate infighter.

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    Default Re: The "Hatton was never comfortable at 147" myth..

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    He was a smallish lightwelter weight and even smaller welterweight. His strength won't be much of a factor at 147, making him a bit of an unfortunate infighter.
    I definitely wouldn't say he was a small light welter. He almost looked drained at times at 140. Those cold sore outbreaks he used to get on weigh in days are a sure sign of his lowered immune system..possibly due to weight drain?

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    Default Re: The "Hatton was never comfortable at 147" myth..

    LOL@ this guy! The triumph of sugar over diabetes.

    Can we have another 'yo moma' quip althugz?

    Collazo beat hatton. Please post your scorecard because collazo winning 6 rounds would still be a hatton win due to the KD! Please don't tell me hatton won 5 rounds! LOL.

    Collazo wasn't robbed. He lost a close fight. He should look no further than his bout against Jose Antonio Rivera, in which Collazo won the belt in the first place. How did he do it? On a split decision in an even closer fight than hatton! Hatton deserves props for a great fight, against a top fighter on american soil @ 147!

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    LOL@ this guy! The triumph of sugar over diabetes.

    Can we have another 'yo moma' quip althugz?

    Collazo beat hatton. Please post your scorecard because collazo winning 6 rounds would still be a hatton win due to the KD! Please don't tell me hatton won 5 rounds! LOL.

    Collazo wasn't robbed. He lost a close fight. He should look no further than his bout against Jose Antonio Rivera, in which Collazo won the belt in the first place. How did he do it? On a split decision in an even closer fight than hatton! Hatton deserves props for a great fight, against a top fighter on american soil @ 147!

    'Althugz' does what it says on the tin!
    Hatton takes risks and ducks no one. Much props to his return and i hope he does not blow up between fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    LOL@ this guy! The triumph of sugar over diabetes.

    Can we have another 'yo moma' quip althugz?

    Collazo beat hatton. Please post your scorecard because collazo winning 6 rounds would still be a hatton win due to the KD! Please don't tell me hatton won 5 rounds! LOL.

    Collazo wasn't robbed. He lost a close fight. He should look no further than his bout against Jose Antonio Rivera, in which Collazo won the belt in the first place. How did he do it? On a split decision in an even closer fight than hatton! Hatton deserves props for a great fight, against a top fighter on american soil @ 147!

    'Althugz' does what it says on the tin!
    I'm so glad I have to waste such little time proving what a bellend you are when you do it so easily yourself..

    Read my reply to Fenster..I said that I thought Hatton won the fight contrary to popular belief of the forum? :/ I only ever said he struggled.

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    I'm so glad I have to waste such little time proving what a bellend you are when you do it so easily yourself..

    Read my reply to Fenster..I said that I thought Hatton won the fight contrary to popular belief of the forum? :/ I only ever said he struggled
    Your original post: "He fought Luis Collazo and Floyd Mayweather, two fighters who probably would have beaten him at 140 as well!" That implies u thought hatton lost! Another thinly veiled 'althugz' attempt at doing down fighter's he pretend's to admire...U should be a little less vague in your original posts and not expect ppl to waste there time on your response's to other posters! @ 140 it would have been easier for hatton vs collazo btw!

    Let's be honest though, any credibility u had went out of the window the moment u brought my mother into a debate! I mean a 'yo moma' quip...really?? How old are you! It is clear to me now that i obviously got under your skin on a previous thread and u being a sensitive little pincushion have decided to pursue a vendetta against a few words on a computer screen! Tragic! LOL. This is just a boxing forum cupcake, who are u trying to impress? Do u feel tougher calling ppl 'bellends' on the internet? It's not my fault u have a tiny penis (When in rome folks!) and have to compensate for that with excessive creatine usage and by lifting things Up n Down...Up n Down...All day long! Self masturbation mate, u heard of it??

    I was curious as to why a grown man would cake his entire body in max factor's latest range of blusher that's all! It was a reasonable question considering u feel the need to post the end result in your avatar. Do u want to be black or something? Anyway i apologise for any offense caused and i hope u find some 16 yr old u can have your internet fight with! Hope we can start again ....
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    Default Re: The "Hatton was never comfortable at 147" myth..

    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    I'm so glad I have to waste such little time proving what a bellend you are when you do it so easily yourself..

    Read my reply to Fenster..I said that I thought Hatton won the fight contrary to popular belief of the forum? :/ I only ever said he struggled
    Your original post: "He fought Luis Collazo and Floyd Mayweather, two fighters who probably would have beaten him at 140 as well!" That implies u thought hatton lost! Another thinly veiled 'althugz' attempt at doing down fighter's he pretend's to admire...U should be a little less vague in your original posts and not expect ppl to waste there time on your response's to other posters! @ 140 it would have been easier for hatton vs collazo btw!

    Let's be honest though, any credibility u had went out of the window the moment u brought my mother into a debate! I mean a 'yo moma' quip...really?? How old are you! It is clear to me now that i obviously got under your skin on a previous thread and u being a sensitive little pincushion have decided to pursue a vendetta against a few words on a computer screen! Tragic! LOL. This is just a boxing forum cupcake, who are u trying to impress? Do u feel tougher calling ppl 'bellends' on the internet? It's not my fault u have a tiny penis (When in rome folks!) and have to compensate for that with excessive creatine usage and by lifting things Up n Down...Up n Down...All day long! Self masturbation mate, u heard of it??

    I was curious as to why a grown man would cake his entire body in max factor's latest range of blusher that's all! It was a reasonable question considering u feel the need to post the end result in your avatar. Do u want to be black or something? Anyway i apologise for any offense caused and i hope u find some 16 yr old u can have your internet fight with! Hope we can start again ....



    Damn...... and I thought I needed to switch to decaf.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    I'm so glad I have to waste such little time proving what a bellend you are when you do it so easily yourself..

    Read my reply to Fenster..I said that I thought Hatton won the fight contrary to popular belief of the forum? :/ I only ever said he struggled
    Your original post: "He fought Luis Collazo and Floyd Mayweather, two fighters who probably would have beaten him at 140 as well!" That implies u thought hatton lost! Another thinly veiled 'althugz' attempt at doing down fighter's he pretend's to admire...U should be a little less vague in your original posts and not expect ppl to waste there time on your response's to other posters! @ 140 it would have been easier for hatton vs collazo btw!

    Let's be honest though, any credibility u had went out of the window the moment u brought my mother into a debate! I mean a 'yo moma' quip...really?? How old are you! It is clear to me now that i obviously got under your skin on a previous thread and u being a sensitive little pincushion have decided to pursue a vendetta against a few words on a computer screen! Tragic! LOL. This is just a boxing forum cupcake, who are u trying to impress? Do u feel tougher calling ppl 'bellends' on the internet? It's not my fault u have a tiny penis (When in rome folks!) and have to compensate for that with excessive creatine usage and by lifting things Up n Down...Up n Down...All day long! Self masturbation mate, u heard of it??

    I was curious as to why a grown man would cake his entire body in max factor's latest range of blusher that's all! It was a reasonable question considering u feel the need to post the end result in your avatar. Do u want to be black or something? Anyway i apologise for any offense caused and i hope u find some 16 yr old u can have your internet fight with! Hope we can start again ....
    Wow..again, I need not say anything. I just hope everybody can see the immense irony in your post
    Feel free to call me out on that other board if you have an issue instead of crying on my thread making irrelevant rants.
    We're trying to have a discussion over here which has so far remained adult and on-topic. Thanks matey!

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    Default Re: The "Hatton was never comfortable at 147" myth..

    Wow..again, I need not say anything. I just hope everybody can see the immense irony in your post
    It would have been ironic had i not been aware of what i was writing but seen as i included the old saying 'But when in rome'....

    Feel free to call me out on that other board if you have an issue instead of crying on my thread making irrelevant rants.
    What is this 8 mile!! U infant.

    We're trying to have a discussion over here which has so far remained adult and on-topic. Thanks matey!
    Post 32. LOL. Try to be consistant. One big fail again.

    With regards to the topic at hand...Was hatton the same fighter at 147? Well collazo was a short notice opponent i believe after lazcano pulled out, so ricky (even though he won) had little time to study collazo, so had to adjust in the ring! Collazo is a southpaw and they are trickier fighters too! Collazo is one of hattons more underrated win's considering the circumstances!

    The best 'physically' ive seen ricky was vs tszyu @ 140. The problem is his body wouldn't let him stay at 140 so the advantages he had at that weight diminished a little at 147. I wouldn't say he was uncomfortable at 147 but it is clear to anyone with A HEAD that hattons home was 140 (The manny fight should never have happened, he was over trained and over the hill!) Prime hatton @ 140 was a fighter to be reckoned with...but u can't produce those TSZYU type performances every in his prime fight! Respect must be given.

    Truth be told though hatton was on a slow and steady decline post tszyu, his style of fighting, his lifestyle and his media darlingship all caught up with him slowly! Did hatton fight a prime tszyu and castillo? no. Did manny and floyd fight a prime hatton? no. It all works both ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    He was a smallish lightwelter weight and even smaller welterweight. His strength won't be much of a factor at 147, making him a bit of an unfortunate infighter.
    I definitely wouldn't say he was a small light welter. He almost looked drained at times at 140. Those cold sore outbreaks he used to get on weigh in days are a sure sign of his lowered immune system..possibly due to weight drain?
    True but he was never physical big at the weight come fight night. Case in point - Castillo who was a monster at135 was a lot bigger than Hatton come fight night. Hatton is not a physically awesome guy at 140 and looked deminutive against even Floyd Mayweather at 147.
    If Hatton had of fought Katsidids, I doubt there'd of been much if anything between them.
    Last edited by Jimanuel Boogustus; 09-30-2012 at 11:05 PM.

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    Default Re: The "Hatton was never comfortable at 147" myth..

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    He was a smallish lightwelter weight and even smaller welterweight. His strength won't be much of a factor at 147, making him a bit of an unfortunate infighter.
    I definitely wouldn't say he was a small light welter. He almost looked drained at times at 140. Those cold sore outbreaks he used to get on weigh in days are a sure sign of his lowered immune system..possibly due to weight drain?
    True but he was never physical big at the weight come fight night. Case in point - Castillo who was a monster at135 was a lot bigger than Hatton come fight night. Hatton is not a physically awesome guy at 140 and looked deminutive against even Floyd Mayweather at 147.
    If Hatton had of fought Katsidids, I doubt there'd of been much if anything between them.
    Castillo was not bigger then Hatton on fight night. That is a crock. And Floyd Mayweather walks around within 5 pounds of his weigh in and he fights at that weight. Hatton looked gaunt at 147.
    This notion that Hatton was the shrimp of the division is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    He was a smallish lightwelter weight and even smaller welterweight. His strength won't be much of a factor at 147, making him a bit of an unfortunate infighter.
    I definitely wouldn't say he was a small light welter. He almost looked drained at times at 140. Those cold sore outbreaks he used to get on weigh in days are a sure sign of his lowered immune system..possibly due to weight drain?
    True but he was never physical big at the weight come fight night. Case in point - Castillo who was a monster at135 was a lot bigger than Hatton come fight night. Hatton is not a physically awesome guy at 140 and looked deminutive against even Floyd Mayweather at 147.
    If Hatton had of fought Katsidids, I doubt there'd of been much if anything between them.
    Castillo was not bigger then Hatton on fight night. That is a crock. And Floyd Mayweather walks around within 5 pounds of his weigh in and he fights at that weight. Hatton looked gaunt at 147.
    This notion that Hatton was the shrimp of the division is ridiculous.
    Yet Floyd looked bigger than him come fight night. That's my point. Not how they walk around prior. What use is that? And in regards to Castillo... I'll prove it later tonight.

    Stay tuned.

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    Default Re: The "Hatton was never comfortable at 147" myth..

    OK let's say the word "comfortable" doesn't apply I'll just use the word "effective". Ricky Hatton was never "effective" at 147......are you happy now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    OK let's say the word "comfortable" doesn't apply I'll just use the word "effective". Ricky Hatton was never "effective" at 147......are you happy now?
    I'm always happy Lyle - Would he have been more "effective" against Floyd or Collazo at 140? I personally don't think so. If so, how? Floyd was even more of a beast at 140 so we can accurately hypothesise how that fight would have gone. Collazo has always been a welter so we can only speculate but I thought his style was simply troubling for Ricky.
    Last edited by Althugz; 10-01-2012 at 03:37 PM. Reason: typo

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    Default Re: The "Hatton was never comfortable at 147" myth..

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    He was a smallish lightwelter weight and even smaller welterweight. His strength won't be much of a factor at 147, making him a bit of an unfortunate infighter.
    I definitely wouldn't say he was a small light welter. He almost looked drained at times at 140. Those cold sore outbreaks he used to get on weigh in days are a sure sign of his lowered immune system..possibly due to weight drain?
    True but he was never physical big at the weight come fight night. Case in point - Castillo who was a monster at135 was a lot bigger than Hatton come fight night. Hatton is not a physically awesome guy at 140 and looked deminutive against even Floyd Mayweather at 147.
    If Hatton had of fought Katsidids, I doubt there'd of been much if anything between them.
    Castillo was not bigger then Hatton on fight night. That is a crock. And Floyd Mayweather walks around within 5 pounds of his weigh in and he fights at that weight. Hatton looked gaunt at 147.
    This notion that Hatton was the shrimp of the division is ridiculous.
    I agree with this. Also from the time Billy Graham and Hatton said that "Ricky is bigger than Floyd and if you're not bigger than Ricky, then you're in trouble!" then the weight card must go out the window, surely?

    From some of the replies I think people are reading into this like it's a Hatton hate thread. I don't hate Hatton. I dislike his fighting style and can't particularly relate to him as a person but I have immense respect for him for seeking out all challengers after becoming a world champion. He is one of, it not the most popular British fighters of all time and although I disliked his style, that doesn't mean I think his style was ineffective. It was very effective and he was damn good at executing it. It simply wasn't to my personal taste.

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