Benghazi...oh you knew it was coming

[El Kabong]

Again...the main issue is not so much the actions of the military although I would like to know more about that especially the stand down orders that were given ... the MAIN ISSSUE, the CRUX OF THE SCANDAL is Why were the talking points changed?

94 emails and not 1 single solitary mention of a YouTube video....not 1 Kirkland......where did the idea to blame the video come from?

[Kirkland Laing]

Again...the main issue is not so much the actions of the military although I would like to know more about that especially the stand down orders that were given ... the MAIN ISSSUE, the CRUX OF THE SCANDAL is Why were the talking points changed?

94 emails and not 1 single solitary mention of a YouTube video....not 1 Kirkland......where did the idea to blame the video come from?

I'm pleased to see you've given up on the conspiracy theories. If you read the papers you'd know the anser to the question you're asking here. I don't even read every Benghazi article every day, I'll only read one if it looks like there's something new in it which means I read less than one in ten, and I know the answer to this question. I'm not going to tell you what it is, only that if you actually do read some non-nutjob stuff for a while it'll probably be repeated in some article and you won't like it.

[El Kabong]

Again...the main issue is not so much the actions of the military although I would like to know more about that especially the stand down orders that were given ... the MAIN ISSSUE, the CRUX OF THE SCANDAL is Why were the talking points changed?

94 emails and not 1 single solitary mention of a YouTube video....not 1 Kirkland......where did the idea to blame the video come from?

I'm pleased to see you've given up on the conspiracy theories. If you read the papers you'd know the anser to the question you're asking here. I don't even read every Benghazi article every day, I'll only read one if it looks like there's something new in it which means I read less than one in ten, and I know the answer to this question. I'm not going to tell you what it is, only that if you actually do read some non-nutjob stuff for a while it'll probably be repeated in some article and you won't like it.

...and I'm pleased to see you're still an asshole

[TitoFan]

You gotta admit, Kirk. Ol' Lyle is a master at the counter-argument.

[El Kabong]

Kirkland STILL has yet to answer where the President was, not that he cares because he's not American....but hey Obama wants to sick the IRS on Conservative groups that's fine by Kirkland, Obama wants to sweep Benghazi under the rug to get reelected that's fine by Kirkland, Obama wants to illegally (oooh did I say that?) seize phone records of the AP, wants to name James Rosen as a "co-conspirator" so they can illegally (oh there's that word again) access Rosen's private emails...that's fine by Kirkland.


The only thing that's not fine by Kirkland, Presidents named Bush or that have an R beside their name. Why is that? Well that's because Kirkland is your stereotypical dirtbag liberal who doesn't give a shit about rules and regulations until it helps his agenda.



That a decent enough counter argument you contrarian dope?

[TitoFan]

I actually don't give a fuck what you think, Lyle.

[El Kabong]

I actually don't give a fuck what you think, Lyle.

You must else you wouldn't follow my every post with something contrarian. How about you keep track of how often you do it?

[Kirkland Laing]

Kirkland STILL has yet to answer where the President was, not that he cares because he's not American....but hey Obama wants to sick the IRS on Conservative groups that's fine by Kirkland, Obama wants to sweep Benghazi under the rug to get reelected that's fine by Kirkland, Obama wants to illegally (oooh did I say that?) seize phone records of the AP, wants to name James Rosen as a "co-conspirator" so they can illegally (oh there's that word again) access Rosen's private emails...that's fine by Kirkland.


The only thing that's not fine by Kirkland, Presidents named Bush or that have an R beside their name. Why is that? Well that's because Kirkland is your stereotypical dirtbag liberal who doesn't give a shit about rules and regulations until it helps his agenda.



That a decent enough counter argument you contrarian dope?

Do you want me to dig up the Julian Assange threads to see which of us is consistent on journalists leaking classified information and which of us is motivated by politics and ideology?

As far as the IRS goes did you see me mention it when the Bush IRS people were going after various liberal/lefty groups like the NAACP? The Benghazi thing is just pathetic. Once you get past the nutjob theories all you're left with is arguing over a fucking talking points memo and whether calling something a terrorist act is the same as calling it an act of terrorism.

It's difficult running a plutocracy while pretending to be a democratic leader who respects the rule of law. Eventually the conflicts burst out into the open in every presidency.

[Kirkland Laing]

You gotta admit, Kirk. Ol' Lyle is a master at the counter-argument.

What was really impressive in this thread was that he had two conflicting conspiracy theories going and didn't realise. Obama was missingin action and ignoring what was going on but at the same time gave two separate orders to stand troops down. Much better to just pick one nutball idea and stick with it.

[El Kabong]

Who would have thought that "SUPER GENIUS" KirklandLaing would not be able to follow that 1 of the events happened because they both couldn't take place at the same time which is what I was trying to get across to you. Either Obama was around & gave the stand down orders OR he left & went to sleep....one OR the other happened, why the White House hasn't clarified that is up for discussion, but a "crackpot conspiracy theory" this is not. Obama can feign ignorance for a lot of shit, it seems to be all he does recently but whenever there is credit to be taken he is on the fucking ball...amazing how that happens and people who can use common sense and critical thinking know Obama has done something very very wrong if not multiple things very very wrong, but some people don't take the blinders off Kirkland.

Sure a few months ago you could have chalked this up to "Lyle being a hater" but now drip, drip, drip....the truth comes out and I am vindicated in my stance against Obama and you look like a moron, well played sir

[Kirkland Laing]

Who would have thought that "SUPER GENIUS" KirklandLaing would not be able to follow that 1 of the events happened because they both couldn't take place at the same time which is what I was trying to get across to you. Either Obama was around & gave the stand down orders OR he left & went to sleep....one OR the other happened, why the White House hasn't clarified that is up for discussion, but a "crackpot conspiracy theory" this is not. Obama can feign ignorance for a lot of shit, it seems to be all he does recently but whenever there is credit to be taken he is on the fucking ball...amazing how that happens and people who can use common sense and critical thinking know Obama has done something very very wrong if not multiple things very very wrong, but some people don't take the blinders off Kirkland.

Sure a few months ago you could have chalked this up to "Lyle being a hater" but now drip, drip, drip....the truth comes out and I am vindicated in my stance against Obama and you look like a moron, well played sir

What you actually got across, what you actually wrote was that both these things happened at the same time. There are posts where you're arguing that both these things happened and calling me an idiot because I didn't agree.

When Benghazi happened and the conspiracy theories started lots of Republicans locked onto them, whether it was "he left them there to die" or "he was missing/unconcrened while Americans fought for their lives". Despite months of politically-motivated GOP investigations there's no evidence of either thing -- you said yourself yesterday this is all about a fucking memo now -- but the reason you and others can't leave this alone is that it fits in with the idea you have of Obama -- that he's not authentically American, doesn't care about Americans and so on. So this Benghazi crap resonates with the kind of people who believe/d he was born in Kenya and is a non-event for everybody else.

[TitoFan]

You gotta admit, Kirk. Ol' Lyle is a master at the counter-argument.

What was really impressive in this thread was that he had two conflicting conspiracy theories going and didn't realise. Obama was missingin action and ignoring what was going on but at the same time gave two separate orders to stand troops down. Much better to just pick one nutball idea and stick with it.

This is new to the pattern I've seen. His standard M.O. is:

1. Post links or post quotes from totally biased, unreliable sources and attempt to force-feed them as facts.
2. When # 1 fails, resort to angry insults and bullying.
3. Childishly claim victory, and then takes his ball and goes home.

[El Kabong]

This is new to the pattern I've seen. His standard M.O. is:

1. Post links or post quotes from totally biased, unreliable sources and attempt to force-feed them as facts.
2. When # 1 fails, resort to angry insults and bullying.
3. Childishly claim victory, and then takes his ball and goes home.

Alright so allow me to follow you two here....4 people died in Benghazi from an attack the CIA knew about in advance, jets weren't scrambled, the military was told to stand down or just simply didn't help because they were busy or something, the very minute the attack begins everyone on the ground, in the Pentagon,and in the Obama Administration knew it was Ansar Al Sharia an Al Queda group located in Libya. However emails are exchanged by various officials and the OFFICIAL Obama Administration story comes out as follows: "These attacks were the result of a protest due to a YouTube video" which is at BEST a lie and all this takes place in the middle of a Presidential Election....

And you two are OK with that? You see 0 wrong? You think the Administration handled this correctly?